2025 NBA Draft and Offseason

#632
#632
knoxvol52 said:
I agree. Maybe @n_huffhines will control his front runner mentality this upcoming season.


I've been a Lakers fan since mid 70's so if I'm a frontrunner so be it...
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What does this even mean? Because I appreciate OKC? I was in on them at least 3 years ago, but I'm not a fan. I just saw the potential. They're finally a front-runner. They had many, many doubters saying they couldn't win a title basically up until they got past Denver.
 
#633
#633
n_huffhines said:
What does this even mean? Because I appreciate OKC? I was in on them at least 3 years ago, but I'm not a fan. I just saw the potential. They're finally a front-runner. They had many, many doubters saying they couldn't win a title basically up until they got past Denver.
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Easy, just messing with you...Decaf in the morning for you young man...
 
#636
#636
The Dog said:
The only front runner around here is me, because the Pistons are about to return to the Isiah days of winning ? Isn't that right, @zjcvols ?
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You will go where Ivey takes you, IMO. If he's a C, you guys probably won't be as good as last year (but in a weakened east). If he's a B, then it could be pretty good.
 
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#637
#637
n_huffhines said:
You will go where Ivey takes you, IMO. If he's a C, you guys probably won't be as good as last year (but in a weakened east). If he's a B, then it could be pretty good.
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Jaden Ivey has all the skills to be a reasonable facsimile of Anthony Edwards, imo. So far, he"s not there or even kinda close, yet. But, if he turns the corner, just a little, it will be a good thing for the Pistons
 
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The Dog said:
Jaden Ivey has all the skills to be a reasonable facsimile of Anthony Edwards, imo. So far, he"s not there or even kinda close, yet. But, if he turns the corner, just a little, it will be a good thing for the Pistons
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Maybe 2 years ago you could say that, but suddenly Ant is a top 10 shooter in the league, out of nowhere. But I still know what you're saying.
 
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#639
#639
n_huffhines said:
Maybe 2 years ago you could say that, but suddenly Ant is a top 10 shooter in the league, out of nowhere. But I still know what you're saying.
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47,44,74 (I rounded up) for Ivey, 18 a game, which isn't bad, but I know what you are saying, too. Ron Holland is going to be a lot better, also. They had NY, last year and like you said the East is probably even worse. You never know, Eastern Conference Champions sounds pretty good to me
 
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#640
#640
Lowe talked about Clippers with league people and lawyers and then podded about it. Two big takeaways.

The league views this as a much bigger offense than tampering, and tampering typically carries a punishment of one or two 2nd rd picks.

The rulebook isn't clear on this, but for the league to come down hard on the Clippers, they may have to prove ownership/FO knowingly directed this fraudulent behavior. It's possible Balmer got taken on this and didn't know what was happening. But even if they can't establish this, they might still be able to throw the book at them. The wording of the rule doesn't clarify this.

And ultimately, Silver has the power to do whatever he wants, but he needs the rules and league politics to back him.
 
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#641
n_huffhines said:
Lowe talked about Clippers with league people and lawyers and then podded about it. Two big takeaways.

The league views this as a much bigger offense than tampering, and tampering typically carries a punishment of one or two 2nd rd picks.

The rulebook isn't clear on this, but for the league to come down hard on the Clippers, they may have to prove ownership/FO knowingly directed this fraudulent behavior. It's possible Balmer got taken on this and didn't know what was happening. But even if they can't establish this, they might still be able to throw the book at them. The wording of the rule doesn't clarify this.

And ultimately, Silver has the power to do whatever he wants, but he needs the rules and league politics to back him.
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#644
Ballmer claims he was duped. Torre's report made it seem like he must've funded the entire thing. Ballmer claims he owns less than 3% of that company.

Clippers have to get punished but intent matters.
 
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#647
n_huffhines said:
Ballmer claims he was duped. Torre's report made it seem like he must've funded the entire thing. Ballmer claims he owns less than 3% of that company.

Clippers have to get punished but intent matters.
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I believe the T-Wolves, when they caught got doing something similar, got fined 3 first rounders and a significant amount of money.
 
#648
#648
zjcvols said:
I believe the T-Wolves, when they caught got doing something similar, got fined 3 first rounders and a significant amount of money.
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Yeah, but I think they caught the Wolves red-handed in every regard?

Sounds like the other owners are pissed, so I feel confident they will do a real investigation and this will be one time where the politics might force Silver into a fair decision.

Seems to me like they at least lose one 1st and Kawhi's contract gets voided (come take a mid-level in PHX).
 
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#649
n_huffhines said:
Yeah, but I think they caught the Wolves red-handed in every regard?

Sounds like the other owners are pissed, so I feel confident they will do a real investigation and this will be one time where the politics might force Silver into a fair decision.

Seems to me like they at least lose one 1st and Kawhi's contract gets voided (come take a mid-level in PHX).
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The contract won't be voided IMO. That causes way too many issues. If the Clippers are found guilty, they will get the brunt of it.
 
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