I'm speaking in the facts of her voting record. And no, not every House Republican voted with Trump as much as she did - not even close. You are injecting a lot of BS into this. Trump governed just as much as an "establishment President" as anyone ever has. The "drain the swamp" rhetoric was hollow.
Just based on Trump's lies about the 2020 Presidential Election alone .... the inaccurate statements have declined. This has become a mainstay tactic of the right - try to diminish Trump's own misconduct, by claiming that everyone else is just as bad. No, they're not.The number of media “fact checks” fell precipitously with the arrival of Joe Biden.
The inaccurate statements didn’t fall, but the desire of the NYT & CNN to call them out certainly declined.
She wasn't on the outside, until after the 2020 election. You tried to claim that every Republican voted like her. They did not.Tracking Congress In The Age Of Trump
FiveThirtyEight is tracking which senators and representatives agree and disagree most with Donald Trump.projects.fivethirtyeight.com
Liz was hardly an outlier in voting with Trump 93% of the time. Sort it by "Trump Score." You actually have to scroll about halfway down that list of Republicans to find her name. An overwhelming majority of Rs voted with Trump 90-100% of the time.
I didn't say anything as far as how Trump actually governed. My point is that Trump's initial momentum as a Presidential candidate was in large part due to a rhetorical repudiation of the Bush/Cheney years, which immediately put people like Liz on the outside, regardless of how he actually governed.
According to you own link .... there were 71 Republicans who voted for Trump's publicly stated position less than 90% of the time. That is more than a handful. You are either lying, or you didn't take the time to actually count them.That's really quite a statement. The link I provided says the exact opposite. There are only a handful of Rs who voted with Trump less than 90% of the time.
I agree as to the fine. Ridiculous and properly rectified. As to your clump of Navarro and Hunter Biden, those cases aren't remotely similar. It's difficult to discuss and /or debate such a comparison, unless you're not interested in nuance or distinctively different details. Trump has no facking business being POTUS nor does Biden, for entirely different reasons.OK. Here's an attempt at a civil discussion about this. I will agree that neither are preferable, but here we are. From "Freewill"
'You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice'
Even if you stay home.
But here's what I see with each passing day. The left is out to get Trump at all costs. That's it. They are not running on their record of anything, unless you believe the quota hire that stands at the podium in the WH every day. They have indicted him numerous times (unprecedented I might add), and nothing of note has stuck. A judge hands down a bigger fine than Bernie Madoff received - and HE had real VICTIMS - only to see it reduced in the 11th hour. It is STILL an egregious fine for a victimless 'crime' (I still don't know what the 'crime' was.) Paul Navarro sits in prison, while Hunter Biden walks free and he openly (figuratively) gave congress the middle finger. Joe Biden was NEVER authorized to have ANY classified material in his personal possession. EVER. Yet he does. And no charges. I could go on, and I think you probably get my point.
If Trump wins, it will be because the American public wakes up to the immense corruption level of this administration... the democrat party in general.
What say you?
You're moving the goal posts. 71 Republicans voted with Trump's publicly stated position less than 90% of the time. And you are a flat out liar.What the **** are you talking about?
85% of the party voted with Trump at least 85% of the time. Something like 75% of the party voted with him 9 out of 10 times. She is right in the middle of that 85% group that voted with Trump 85% of the time (she was 93%).
Nope. 3 out of every 4 R members voted with him at least 90% of the time. That's a handful (25%) that did not. There are a ton more members clustered at 88-89% and even more down to 85%. If you consider that to be a statistically significant difference to 90%, then you are being pedantic.You're moving the goal posts.
71 is more than just a handful .... You are moving the goal posts, splitting hairs .... and lying about it.Nope. 3 out of every 4 R members voted with him at least 90% of the time. That's a handful (25%) that did not. There are a ton more members clustered at 88-89% and even more down to 85%. If you consider that to be a statistically significant difference to 90%, then you are being pedantic.
The way you described it, Liz was some outlier Republican because she voted with him 93% of the time. She is right smack dab in the median of her Republican colleagues in terms of how often she voted with Trump.
Donald Trump may be closer to bankruptcy than it seems
The former president needs more money to keep his businesses afloat, according to one financial analyst.www.newsweek.com
From the article :
*********************************************************
*********************************************************
" 'Donald Trump may be in a worse financial situation than most people think,' a financial analyst has said.
Jon Gabrielsen, an Atlanta-based market economist, told Newsweek that Trump's liquidity problems may be more acute than they first appear, as businesses need extra cash in reserve to avoid bankruptcy.
He said Trump was '.... screwed, blued and tattooed,' unless he can come up with more cash to pay his court awards."
**********************************************************
**********************************************************
The most surprising aspect of this whole thing, is how little liquidity Trump seems to have.
Trump is going to run out of real estate on the "Biden is a senile old man" platform, if he keeps coining words such as "disinformates" and "misinformates." You can always tell when Trump has posted one of his own messages, rather than it coming from a campaign surrogate.