2024 Presidential Race

[Jxn Vol]

The polls will change a lot between now and election day--and not likely in favor of a traitorous, mentally ill criminal, even if MAGA are envious of his spray tan and mail-order bride, and even she hates the guy.

Check the fries. Cars are backing up. Get it moving.

 

[McDad]

I don't see why that would be the case. Heck the parties could hold all 50 caucuses within a week or two.

It starts in Iowa in mid Jan and by super tuesday the nominee is decided, correct?

 

[hog88]

Oooh @BowlBrother85 loves a good gerrymander story!

Look BB ^ more gerrymandering

But that’s different

 

[hog88]

It starts in Iowa in mid Jan and by super tuesday the nominee is decided, correct?

Currently yes. What I’m talking about is scraping the entire primary system. Going to a caucus system where each state party would select delegates to the national convention. The delegates then would select the nominee at the convention.

 

[85SugarVol]

There is no reason why there cannot be compromise on issues like gun control

What is the compromise you are proposing on gun control?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Oooh @BowlBrother85 loves a good gerrymander story!

Look BB ^ more gerrymandering

Have New York Democrats defied the Supreme Court yet?

Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district

The court’s decision is in line with its June ruling in the same case that reaffirmed key protections for minority voters.

www.nbcnews.com

How Alabama is defying the supreme court to discriminate against Black voters

In June, the US supreme court upheld a decision ordering Alabama to redraw its congressional map – but state Republicans ignored the mandate

www.theguardian.com

If not .... they are amateurs when compared to Alabama's Republican-controlled state legislature.

 

[85SugarVol]

But that’s different

You’re right. That’s probably the good gerrymandering he was talking about.

 

[85SugarVol]

Have New York Democrats defied the Supreme Court yet?

Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district

The court’s decision is in line with its June ruling in the same case that reaffirmed key protections for minority voters.

www.nbcnews.com

How Alabama is defying the supreme court to discriminate against Black voters

In June, the US supreme court upheld a decision ordering Alabama to redraw its congressional map – but state Republicans ignored the mandate

www.theguardian.com

If not .... they are amateurs when compared to Alabama's Republican-controlled state legislature.

But that’s different

Lol

 

[StarRaider]

What is the compromise you are proposing on gun control?

you know, the compromises that trample the racist 2A in the USC

 

[BreatheUT]

Trump was consistently between 39% to 43% in job approval on the Real Clear Politics Average over the last year of his presidency. Their numbers have been very comparable for the most part. They have both been unpopular presidents.

.... and what makes your own opinion more important than his?

A washing machine is not the only thing that has a spin cycle.

 

 

[McDad]

Currently yes. What I’m talking about is scraping the entire primary system. Going to a caucus system where each state party would select delegates to the national convention. The delegates then would select the nominee at the convention.

I am in agreement. I didn't communicate effectively in my first reply. I like your suggestion better especially because the system now chooses the nominee before all the states have had a say in the choice.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

^^^^ Says the tribal member of a party set to nominate Donald Trump for the 3rd straight Presidential Election cycle.

Oh, big Boo Hoo. Deal with it Biden butt kisser. I’ll probably not vote for anyone ever again bc all of them suck as bad as the other. At least I don’t support any of the dim witted policies the loony left has installed.

 

[BreatheUT]

All true. Which begs the question, why nominate a piece of sh!t that the other side hates?
If we agree that the president has little to no direct impact, then pick someone who is more of a overall uniter than divider.
Unless of course, you want the country to be divided.

The democrats can always put up Big Mike as an option.

 

[luthervol]

The democrats can always put up Big Mike as an option.

Big Mike?

 

[BowlBrother85]

The democrats can always put up Big Mike as an option.

That is so stupid.

 

[DC_Vol]

A Romney type.
Someone who is not rabidly supported by the extreme arm of their own party - from either side.

When Romney ran he was characterized as a 1%, divider, bully, and misogynist. This is what happens to every Republican candidate. McCain got similar treatment. Then a few years later we hear how they were reasonable and acceptable candidates. At the time, they were made out to be the worst type of human possible. Seems a little weird, but it’s true.

 

[BowlBrother85]

When Romney ran he was characterized as a 1%, divider, bully, and misogynist. This is what happens to every Republican candidate. McCain got similar treatment. Then a few years later we hear how they were reasonable and acceptable candidates. At the time, they were made out to be the worst type of human possible. Seems a little weird, but it’s true.

I have to say I really don't remember it that way for McCain at all.

I think McCain was accorded a proper level of respect, for who he was. The Obama Campaign did bring up the Keating 5, but that's just politics. McCain didn't do enough to distance himself from GWB, and he chose a running mate who was the subject of non-stop ridicule. In retrospect, he never really had a chance, following GWB at a time when the country had war fatigue and was in the throes of a financial crisis. No Republican could have been elected in 2008.

 

[VOLS INC.]

When Romney ran he was characterized as a 1%, divider, bully, and misogynist. This is what happens to every Republican candidate. McCain got similar treatment. Then a few years later we hear how they were reasonable and acceptable candidates. At the time, they were made out to be the worst type of human possible. Seems a little weird, but it’s true.

Yep.

The democrats are just too blind to see the truth.

As soon as they see the (R)…that’s it!

If a candidate for President has an (R) next to their name, and they are a serious threat to beat the Democrat nominee, the (R) then stands far:

Racist
Misogynist
Homophobic
Divider
Bully
White supremacist (even if they aren’t white)
Etc etc etc.

Facts, Ace!

 

[volgr]

The GOP ground game is Ukraine and the DNC ground game is Russia.

Neither side of the GOP civil war seems to be worried about the Dems ballot harvesting nor looking for any organized version of their own.

 

[85SugarVol]

That is so stupid.

Who was the poster that used to get so agitated over people not calling that out?

He was center-left, pretty reasonable all in all. Very sarcastic. I always liked him.

If you’re out there bruh… That ^ was wrong.

 

[Vol423]

then the point I made stands - Trump gained significantly more support in the primaries than Biden and D's voting in the R primary didn't boost Trump's numbers

...and any Democrats voting in the Republican primary for Trump in order to ensure that he is the Republican nominee are idiots. He is already the ironclad lock to be the Republican nominee. I know that statement was needlessly redundant. They are Democrats after all.

 

[luthervol]

When Romney ran he was characterized as a 1%, divider, bully, and misogynist. This is what happens to every Republican candidate. McCain got similar treatment. Then a few years later we hear how they were reasonable and acceptable candidates. At the time, they were made out to be the worst type of human possible. Seems a little weird, but it’s true.

Again, every presidential candidate in history has had distractors who exaggerate and try to portray them in the worst light possible. It can only ever be an issue of how many and how fervently.

There will be repubs who blast any democratic candidate in the worst possible way. That in no way means that every democratic candidate is equally worthy of being blasted.

Again, you guys with the whole equivalency thing - it's absolutely nuts.......but understandable. There is truly no other way a person trying to maintain any level of self-respect and dignity could justify supporting Trump.

 

[luthervol]

I have to say I really don't remember it that way for McCain at all.

I think McCain was accorded a proper level of respect, for who he was. The Obama Campaign did bring up the Keating 5, but that's just politics. McCain didn't do enough to distance himself from GWB, and he chose a running mate who was the subject of non-stop ridicule. In retrospect, he never really had a chance, following GWB at a time when the country had war fatigue and was in the throes of a financial crisis. No Republican could have been elected in 2008.

It wasn't that way. They are simply trying to self-justify.

 

[DC_Vol]

Again, every presidential candidate in history has had distractors who exaggerate and try to portray them in the worst light possible. It can only ever be an issue of how many and how fervently.

There will be repubs who blast any democratic candidate in the worst possible way. That in no way means that every democratic candidate is equally worthy of being blasted.

Again, you guys with the whole equivalency thing - it's absolutely nuts.......but understandable. There is truly no other way a person trying to maintain any level of self-respect and dignity could justify supporting Trump.

Luth, I’m not even sure what you are talking about. Your conclusion is I’m making an equivalency here when I’m simply observing.

I remember well the character attacks on Romney. I’m sorry you can’t grasp that I find it interesting he’s no longer talked about as a 1%er, a bully, a misogynist, etc. He’s now most often characterized as a principled voice of reason. Did he change in the last 10 years?

 

[DC_Vol]

It wasn't that way. They are simply trying to self-justify.

Again, what are you talking about? What am I justifying?