2021 Fall Practice #7

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BigALWiLson said:
HB doesn't have to be a threat with his feet. Matter of fact Drew Locke was 0 threat with the feet. Running is not a prerequisite of running JH's playbook. I am sure it helps but not required. HB damn sure looked good running JH's scheme in the O&W game. That said the other two may be better at it right now.
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Not a knock on HB at all. He is just the odd man out in my scenario. If I expect to need two quarterbacks at some point during the season, I develop the two with the most similar skillsets.
 
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sona said:
Not a knock on HB at all. He is just the odd man out in my scenario. If I expect to need two quarterbacks at some point during the season, I develop the two with the most similar skillsets.
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I agree with that. If you are 3rd you are 3rd. We will all know soon enough. But we all know the 3rd option can become the #1 Quickly in this league. Especially with running Qb's that only furthers that risk. This very thing has happened to us several times.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
I agree with that. If you are 4th you are 4th. We will all know soon enough. But we all know the 3rd option can become the #1 Quickly in this league. Especially with running Qb's that only furthers that risk. This very thing has happened to us several times.
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FYP.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
HB doesn't have to be a threat with his feet. Matter of fact Drew Locke was 0 threat with the feet. Running is not a prerequisite of running JH's playbook. I am sure it helps but not required. HB damn sure looked good running JH's scheme in the O&W game. That said the other two may be better at it right now.
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Drew is a better athlete than you make him out to be. He ran a 4.69 at the combine. He could get away if he needed. HB doesn't have to be a dual threat to be successful in this system. It surely makes things easier but just knowing when to rollout and when to tuck and run are critical.
 
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dcm3w said:
Drew is a better athlete than you make him out to be. He ran a 4.69 at the combine. He could get away if he needed. HB doesn't have to be a dual threat to be successful in this system. It surely makes things easier but just knowing when to rollout and when to tuck and run are critical.
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I agree with you, I doubt Bailey will ever rush for 100 yards or even 50 in a game. He just needs to get what he can and keep us in positive situations imo and develope further. Feeling pressure stepping up in the pocket rolling when needed yeah I agree. I think there will be times he may surprise with a little running too. But I think he would rather get the ball in the space eaters hands.
 
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sona said:
I bet Bailey is next. I can never pick the winner of a QB showdown, but if I were Heupel I would absolutely favor the two quarterbacks who allow me to install the same scheme and know that they both could execute it if need be. That's Hooker and Milton. HB will never be a threat with his feet.

WIth Hooker and Milton, I have one scheme that both quarterbacks can execute should the need arise.
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I think you make a good point but IMO Milton falls to 3rd if they're unable to get him to be consistent with his decisions and throws.

Reports have talked about efforts to correct something with his footwork so they may believe part of his inconsistency is related to mechanics. At Michigan there were times when he just seemed to go Steve Sax. He became wild with his throws. At other times, he just flat out seemed to make awful decisions and throw it to the other team.

If he can't work past that then my best guess is Hooker then Bailey. If he can then IMO he rises to the top and Bailey falls to 3rd.

And... if Milton is "close enough" I would not be surprised to see him get the first shot. Even if he's higher risks... he does some things that would make the reward worth it.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
HB doesn't have to be a threat with his feet. Matter of fact Drew Locke was 0 threat with the feet. Running is not a prerequisite of running JH's playbook. I am sure it helps but not required. HB damn sure looked good running JH's scheme in the O&W game. That said the other two may be better at it right now.
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Lock could run. If he had not chosen football, he would have had an opportunity to play basketball. The guy is a really good athlete.

HB doesn't have to run. But he better be more accurate and have more zip on the ball during sessions we don't see. In the highlights we've had, he's both less accurate and has shown less arm strength than Hooker or Milton. That surprised me since I thought he had an advantage over Hooker.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
HB doesn't have to be a threat with his feet. Matter of fact Drew Locke was 0 threat with the feet. Running is not a prerequisite of running JH's playbook. I am sure it helps but not required. HB damn sure looked good running JH's scheme in the O&W game. That said the other two may be better at it right now.
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Difference being Joe Milton wasn’t in the equation and BM (who basically just quit) was the #1 at the time.

Just shows how much actual competition is going on. BM couldn’t fix what the staff wanted him to, and it shows.
 
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sjt18 said:
Lock could run. If he had not chosen football, he would have had an opportunity to play basketball. The guy is a really good athlete.

HB doesn't have to run. But he better be more accurate and have more zip on the ball during sessions we don't see. In the highlights we've had, he's both less accurate and has shown less arm strength than Hooker or Milton. That surprised me since I thought he had an advantage over Hooker.
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I haven't seen that at all. To me the only advantage Hooker has is mobility/running ability (which isn't a small thing by any means).
 
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Maurer is gone if what is being reported is true. I wish him the best. As far as Maurer being #1, I doubt that was the case since they brought in yet another Qb. Either way one is gone 3 are left and they have a couple scrimmages to battle it out. It is really tired at this point. We will all know soon enough who the GUY is for game 1. Each week after guys better prepare becausr the next guy is good enough.
 
#45
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I am still worried about D Line depth and conditioning. I just feel like the offense is either going to score in 2-3 minutes or be 3 and out and the D is going to be right back on the field. I guess the D will rotate a lot of players through the lineup.
 
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VolBricks said:
I am still worried about D Line depth and conditioning. I just feel like the offense is either going to score in 2-3 minutes or be 3 and out and the D is going to be right back on the field. I guess the D will rotate a lot of players through the lineup.
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I'm actually not as worried about this.. Look at the offense last year.. They were 3 and out or less often... At least the defense this year is preparing for uptempo and being on the field more..
 
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JRVOL11 said:
I really feel like the corner spot will be underrated. Haden, Turnage, and Rucker will provide good depth for sure.
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Still think Charles ends up in that mix, but the staff may just be getting him snaps at safety in the meantime. It’s a Dale Carter feeling. Dude played safety for us and Pro Bowled at corner the next level.
 
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sona said:
Not a knock on HB at all. He is just the odd man out in my scenario. If I expect to need two quarterbacks at some point during the season, I develop the two with the most similar skillsets.
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I think your scenario only works if Milton or Hooker is #1 and the competition for #2 is extremely close between Milton/Hooker and Bailey. If Bailey has separated himself from whoever he's competing with for #2, then skillsets go out the window and you go with the most productive guy. That being said, I think Hooker is more of a runner and Milton more of a passer...so I'm not sure their skillsets align beyond being more mobile than Bailey. To Bailey's credit, I don't think he ever looked like a statue in live action last season. He did make a few decent runs when nobody was open.
 
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sona said:
I bet Bailey is next. I can never pick the winner of a QB showdown, but if I were Heupel I would absolutely favor the two quarterbacks who allow me to install the same scheme and know that they both could execute it if need be. That's Hooker and Milton. HB will never be a threat with his feet.

WIth Hooker and Milton, I have one scheme that both quarterbacks can execute should the need arise.
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While i get this to a point, it still bothers me that these are 2 guys that, for whatever reason, couldn't hold the starting job at their initial schools. There's a reason for that.

Don't get me wrong, I am pleased with the 3 QBs we have in the room. I just think we need to temper expectations.
 
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