2020 Primaries

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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes.... the Democratic Party establishment wants Joe Biden to be the nominee. They will get what they want.
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I just wonder if Sanders and his supporters will feel screwed again, like they did in 2016? If they do, that could potentially hurt the Dems in the Presidential election.
 
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luthervol said:
They dropped out to help Biden and hurt Sanders. So what? There is nothing wrong with that. It is more than appropriate.
Had some of the 16 repubs. been as respectful to the country in 2016, we could have avoided the whole Trump catastrophe.
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We call this the Ted Cruz effect now. Ted Cruz was so disliked and hated by the other candidates that they would rather stay in to spite him than dropout and prevent Trump from winning.
 
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carlos86 said:
We call this the Ted Cruz effect now. Ted Cruz was so disliked and hated by the other candidates that they would rather stay in to spite him than dropout and prevent Trump from winning.
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Whether you like or dislike Trump, the fact he beat Hillary supports that the Republicans made the right choice. The point of the primaries is to pick someone who will win.
 
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Aesius said:
His obvious dementia is going to get him crushed. Dems had no one this time around.
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The hard core will still turn out for him, and things are so politicized now that it won't be nearly the losses of Mondale, McGovern, or Carter on his second run. Dems could probably get 30% of the popular vote today by running anybody ... with or without a pulse.
 
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LouderVol said:
I dont see how he does. Biden inspires nobody to vote for him.

I dont remember Biden handling any pressure well this election cycle
, and he hasnt faced much. He is the biggest #2 in DC. Looks ok until you get him in the lime light and then he melts.

He does nothing to expand their base.
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Biden had 2 plus weeks of every Democrat and the media saying WAIT A MINUTE we can't nominate Bernie. Biden is in the same position tonight if the field doesn't narrow. If Biden wins the nomination he still has to articulate a vision for America. Does anyone seriously think he can pull this off?
 
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AM64 said:
The hard core will still turn out for him, and things are so politicized now that it won't be nearly the losses of Mondale, McGovern, or Carter on his second run. Dems could probably get 30% of the popular vote today by running anybody ... with or without a pulse.
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Without a pulse.... you just described Joe Biden
 
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Weezer said:
I just wonder if Sanders and his supporters will feel screwed again, like they did in 2016? If they do, that could potentially hurt the Dems in the Presidential election.
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I'd love to see them screw Bernie again, and Bernie run as an independent. Pretty sure he'd have a "heart attack" ... a fatal one this time if he tried.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Also Biden has had the benefit of the heat being off him for a while now, starting tomorrow that will change
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That is crazy. Joe Biden hasn't come out of nowhere. He was leading in the polls for a solid 6 months in 2019. Trump and his surrogates (Rudy Giuliani and Devin Nunes) have been trying to dig up dirt on Biden since last July.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is crazy. Joe Biden hasn't come out of nowhere. He was leading in the polls for a solid 6 months in 2019. Trump and his surrogates (Rudy Giuliani and Devin Nunes) have been trying to dig up dirt on Biden since last July.
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The heat went away for the last few weeks because Sanders was seen as the leader, all the heat turned to Sanders. Now with all the media love tonight it’s going to come back on Biden and bigly
 
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Weezer said:
Whether you like or dislike Trump, the fact he beat Hillary supports that the Republicans made the right choice. The point of the primaries is to pick someone who will win.
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That's only under the assumption that none of the others would have won.
What you are saying is that there were people who voted for Trump who would not have voted for any of the other repubs.
What a bazaar reality that would be.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would contend that Trump's gaffes occur at an alarming rate and they are well documented on Twitter.
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Do you think Biden can beat Trump in debates? Or inspire more than the built-in Democratic base to vote for him in November? Trump makes gaffes, sure, but people listen to him. Biden stumbles through speeches and sounds senile half the time. Just looks physically and mentally weaker than Trump.
 
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