2019 MLB Draft Thread

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#126
whobethis16 said:
Those numbers are straight from Perfect Game, and not much different from Tennessee. So all 3 programs are recruiting about the same number of HS guys. Since it was brought up that PG doesn't account JC guys, that's irrelevant to the numbers I presented.

But we're back to LSU, Florida, and Duke having coaches with several full recruiting cycles, and full rosters of their players, where Vitello isn't there yet.
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The point is those other programs aren’t signing high volume of juco guys like we are

Look you can justify it if you want that’s certainly your right but having close 60 guys on a roster that has to get down to 35 is wrong. Signing kids to $ and lowering that before they get to campus is also world and that’s happening as well.
 
#127
#127
Our first signee just went in the last pick of the 14th Round. Andrew Beck
 
#129
#129
BruinVol said:
The point is those other programs aren’t signing high volume of juco guys like we are

Look you can justify it if you want that’s certainly your right but having close 60 guys on a roster that has to get down to 35 is wrong. Signing kids to $ and lowering that before they get to campus is also world and that’s happening as well.
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A massive turnover is always expected with a new staff. Provide a source with all the JUCO commits and let's compare the programs like I did with PG.

Serrano had 22 commits in 2016, and that's after several full recruiting cycles. 16 commits in 2017. Still taken from PG.

Maybe Vitello knows guys are wanting to leave. Maybe he's seen a work ethic that he doesn't like. You don't know the story any more than I do.
 
#130
#130
whobethis16 said:
A massive turnover is always expected with a new staff. Provide a source with all the JUCO commits and let's compare the programs like I did with PG.

Serrano had 22 commits in 2016, and that's after several full recruiting cycles. 16 commits in 2017. Still taken from PG.

Maybe Vitello knows guys are wanting to leave. Maybe he's seen a work ethic that he doesn't like. You don't know the story any more than I do.
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Fact: Arkansas 18-22-20 Signed last 3 years per PG

Stop with the once he gets established the numbers will go down. They won’t and you need to look where he learned from
 
#132
#132
31VFL said:
Alabama
1. RD 1 Pick 6 (Padres)- (HS Commit) CJ Abrams: Slot-Value: $5,740,000
2. RD 17 Pick 509 (Twins)- (HS Commit) Antoine Jean

Arkansas
1. RD CBB Pick 75 (Dbacks)- Dominic Fletcher: Slot-Value: $831,100
2. RD CBB Pick 76 (Mariners)- Isaiah Campbell: Slot-Value: $818,200
3. RD 4 Pick 123 (Nationals)- Matt Cronin: Slot-Value: $464,500
4. RD 8 Pick 232 (Tigers)- Jack Kenley: Slot-Value: $181,200
5. RD 8 Pick 249 (Rockies)- Jacob Kostyshock: Slot-Value: $164,700
6. RD 9 Pick 287 (Red Sox)- Cody Scroggins: Slot-Value: $148,200

Auburn
1. RD 2 Pick 42 (Orioles)- (HS Commit) Gunnar Henderson: Slot-Value: $1,770,000
2. RD 5 Pick 149 (Twins)- Will Holland: Slot-Value: $360,800
3. RD 7 Pick 211 (Angels)- Davis Daniel: Slot-Value: $211,500
4. RD 18 Pick 539 (Twins)- Edouard Julien

Florida
1. RD 1 Pick 5 (Tigers)- (HS Commit) Riley Greene: Slot-Value: $6,180,000
2. RD 2 Pick 44 (Royals)- Brady McConnell: Slot-Value: $1,690,000
3. RD 3 Pick 89 (Mets)- (HS Commit) Matthew Allan: Slot-Value: $667,900
4. RD 5 Pick 153 (Nationals)- Tyler Dyson: Slot-Value: $346,800
5. RD 7 Pick 205 (Rangers)- (HS Commit) Brandon Sproat: Slot-Value: ~$220,000
6. RD 8 Pick 247 (Red Sox)- Wil Dalton: Slot-Value:~ $157,000
7. RD 13 Pick 397 (Braves)- (HS Commit) Tyler Owens

Georgia
1. RD 2 Pick 62 (Rockies)- Aaron Schunk: Slot-Value: $1,100,000
2. RD 3 Pick 96 (Cardinals)- Tony Locey: Slot-Value: $604,800
3. RD 4 Pick 126 (Mariners)- Tim Elliott: Slot-Value: $451,800
4. RD 7 Pick 207 (Blue Jays)- LJ Talley: Slot-Value: $218,500

Kentucky
1. RD 1 Pick 17 (Nationals)- (JUCO Commit) Jack Rutledge: Slot-Value: $3,610,000
2. RD 1 Pick 19 (Cardinals)- Zack Thompson: Slot-Value: 3,360,000
3. RD 14 Pick 423 (Nationals)- (JUCO Commit) Lucas Knowles
4. RD 16 Pick 497 (Red Sox)- (JUCO Commit) Oraj Anu

LSU
1. RD 1 Pick 24 (Indians)- (HS Commit) Daniel Espino: Slot-Value: $2,830,000
2. RD 2 Pick 49 (Reds)- (HS Commit) Rece Hinds: Slot-Value: $1,510,000
3. RD 2 Pick 67 (Yankees)- Josh Smith: Slot-Value: $976,700
4. RD 2 Pick 78 (Dodgers)- (HS Commit) Jimmy Lewis: Slot-Value: $793,000
5. RD 3 Pick 79 (Orioles)- Zach Watson: Slot-Value:$780,400
6. RD 4 Pick 130 (Indians)- (HS Commit) Christian Cairo: Slot-Value: $434,300
7. RD 7 Pick 202 (Tigers)- Zack Hess: Slot-Value: $227,700
8. RD 7 Pick 213 (Nationals)- Todd Peterson: Slot-Value: $208,200

Mississippi St
1. RD 1 Pick 28 (Brewers)- Ethan Small: Slot-Value: $2.490,000
2. RD 4 Pick 118 (Mets)- Jake Mangum: Slot-Value: $487,900
3. RD 6 Pick 188 (Rays)- Colby White: Slot-Value: $255,300
4. RD 6 Pick 192 (Cubs)- (HS Commit) Ethan Hearn: Slot-Value: $247,000
5. RD 13 Pick 393 (Nationals)- (JUCO Commit) Jake Randa
6. RD 15 Pick 443 (Padres)- (HS Commit) Andre Tarver
7. RD 16 Pick 489 (Rockies)- Trysten Barlow
8. RD 18 Pick 531 (Marlins)- Dustin Skelton
Missouri
1. RD CBA Pick 35 (Marlins)- Kameron Misner: Slot-Value: $2,100,000
2. RD CBA Pick 38 (Yankees)- TJ Sikkema: Slot-Value: $1,950,000
3. RD 5 Pick 164 (Athletics)- (HS Commit) Jalen Greer: Slot-Value: $312,400
4. RD 13 Pick 401 (Dodgers)- Jacob Cantleberry
5. RD 16 Pick 480 (Phillies)- Chris Cornelius

Ole Miss
1. RD 2 Pick 68 (Astros)- Grae Kessinger: Slot-Value: $953,100
2. RD 5 Pick 159 (Rockies)- Will Ethridge: Slot-Value: $327,200
3. RD 5 Pick 163 (Brewers)- Thomas Dillard: Slot-Value: $315,400
4. RD 6 Pick 172 (Tigers)- Cooper Johnson: Slot-Value: $291,400

South Carolina
1. RD 3 Pick 85 (Reds)- (HS Commit) Ryan Callihan: Slot-Value: $710,700
2. RD 4 Pick 114 (Reds)- (JUCO Commit) Ivan Johnson: Slot-Value: $507,400
3. RD 9 Pick 264 (Reds)- TJ Hopkins: Slot-Value: $156,100
4. RD 13 Pick 384 (Reds)- Luke Berryhill
5. RD 13 Pick 396 (Mariners)- Reid Morgan
Tennessee
1. RD 3 Pick 83 (Tigers): Andre Lipscius: Slot-Value: $733,100
2. RD 5 Pick 151 (Angels)- Garrett Stallings: Slot-Value: $353,700
3. RD 6 Pick 180 (Phillies)- Andrew Schultz: Slot-Value: $272,500
4. RD 9 Pick 271 (Angels)- Zach Linginfelter: Slot-Value: $153,300
5. RD 14 Pick 437 (Red Sox)- (HS Commit) Jordan Beck
6. RD 15 Pick 459 (Rockies)- (JUCO Commit) Alex Haynes
7. RD 17 Pick 505 (Rangers)- (HS Commit) Connor Housley
Texas A&M
1. RD 1 Pick 21 (Braves)- Braden Shewmake: Slot-Value: $3,130,000
2. RD CBA Pick 36 (Rays)- (HS Commit) JJ Goss: Slot-Value: $2,050,000
3. RD 2 Pick 45 (White Sox)- (HS Commit) Matthew Thompson: Slot-Value: $1,650,000
4. RD 2 Pick 53 (Mets)- (HS Commit) Josh Wolf: Slot-Value: $1,370,000
5. RD 2 Pick 61 (Rays)- John Doxakis: Slot-Value: $1,130,000
6. RD 3 Pick 88 (Blue Jays)- (HS Commit) Dasan Brown: Slot-Value: $678,600
7. RD 4 Pick 127 (Braves)- Kasey Kalich: Slot-Value: $447,400

Vanderbilt
1. RD 1 Pick 4 (Marlins)- JJ Bleday: Slot-Value: $6,660,000
2. RD 1 Pick 30 (Yankees)- (HS Commit) Anthony Volpe: Slot-Value: $2,370,000
3. RD 2 Pick 52 (Blue Jays)- (HS Commit) Kendall Williams: Slot-Value: $1,400,000
4. RD 2 Pick 58 (Cardinals)- (HS Commit) Treyjn Fletcher: Slot-Value: $1,210,000
5. RD 6 Pick 173 (Padres)- Drake Fellows: Slot-Value: $289,000
6. RD 9 Pick 267 (Blue Jays)- Philip Clarke: Slot-Value: $154,900
7. RD 9 Pick 274 (Pirates)- Ethan Paul: Slot-Value: $152,300
8. RD 10 Pick 317 (Red Sox)- Stephen Scott: Slot-Value: $142,200
8. RD 3 Pick 381 (Marlins)- Zach King
9. RD 13 Pick 388 (Mets)- (HS Commit) Blaine McIntosh
10. RD 13 Pick 403 (Brewers)- Jackson Gillis
11. RD 16 Pick 488 (Rays)- Joe Gobillot
12. RD 17 Pick 499 (Royals)- AJ Franklin
13. RD 17 Pick 504 (Reds)- Patrick Raby
14. RD 17 Pick 525 (Yankees)- Pat DeMarco
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Updated to this point. Vandy’s total is stupid
 
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#133
#133
BruinVol said:
Oversigning is a must in college baseball. It’s a necessary evil mainly because of the draft. The issue is the degree in which a coach is willing to go over the 35 number. It’s been said here We are going to be close to 60 next fall. Imo that is way across the line of necessity and the reason why I am No longer a supporter of volunteer baseball.


I can tell you that a number of players that have fallen victim to this so far under TV don’t feel like he was upfront with them about the process they weren’t entering into. So tifwiw
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Thanks. It certainly sounds like the NCAA needs to set some strict parameters so everyone is on a level playing field. You've got some schools self-funding scholarships which gives them a huge advantage, and other teams are way over-signing.
 
#135
#135
wtmvol said:
Thanks. It certainly sounds like the NCAA needs to set some strict parameters so everyone is on a level playing field. You've got some schools self-funding scholarships which gives them a huge advantage, and other teams are way over-signing.
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Imo it’s the worst sport to have your son being recruited into
 
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#136
#136
just following the discussion and pretty much agreed across the board with everyone however I think the 60 number won't even be close this fall's roster number.

Maybe we should have a Pick'em for the fall roster, I'm guessing the number is more like 47 when everything shakes out.........and that's debatable about too high or low of a number
 
#139
#139
OldTimer said:
just following the discussion and pretty much agreed across the board with everyone however I think the 60 number won't even be close this fall's roster number.

Maybe we should have a Pick'em for the fall roster, I'm guessing the number is more like 47 when everything shakes out.........and that's debatable about too high or low of a number
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Yea it won’t be 60.
They have already started sending guys elsewhere
 
#142
#142
BruinVol said:
Yea it won’t be 60.
They have already started sending guys elsewhere
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So, you agree that there's going to be a lot of turnover, but are going to whine about Vitello getting enough guys to replace those that leave? Makes sense.

By the way, where's the source to see the JUCO commits?
 
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