2018 QB Depth Chart

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UGADawg4Life said:
Don't know if this is serious or not but, if so, care to make it interesting?
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Well! I didn’t see this, but I’m not the betting type, sorry. Here is why I’m serious, dawg for life. Pruitt will make Jim Cheney choke again. You and other dawg fans know that when he was at Tennessee, that is what happened to him. Y’all will be calling for his head before to long. Kirby Smart can’t beat Pruitt with his OC, and I don’t even think Smart can beat him at all. Pruitt is very good at making adjustments all of the time. Now with Sherrer, that will be a disaster in the making for Smart and his staff. Let me go farther and say this also: I don’t even think that your defensive co. can beat Ty Helton either, because this guy is a offensive genius. It is going to take someone to beat him, and I think the only person that can beat him right now is Nick Saban. Ty will give Saban and company fits, because of his offensive mind. I think by the time this recruiting class is done by Pruitt and his staff, y’all are going to realize that they are going to be just as good as yours. Keep laughing now, because we are coming for everyone l, and it starts in 2018.:hi::rock:
 
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RavinDave said:
Why would it not be serious? Football is life and Orange Defense as you know if you've been spying on VN has several times stated, in so many words, that Pruitt has Kirby's number. We shall see but I like what Orange Defense is selling and I'm in for a block of shares.
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Thanks! I just explained to him why. Pruitt is a different kind of coach than most other fans give him credit for. He has proven time after time that he can beat these coaches, and recruiting is just the beginning, because I see it everyday of what he is doing. It wouldn’t surprise me that the 1st step is winding up with a top 5 recruiting class before this is all over. From the 50’s to 16 th in just a week, and he isn’t done yet. :rock:
 
#228
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UGADawg4Life said:
$1,000 on UGA vs TN in 2018. I know a guy in Vegas who can make this happen. We'll both need to deposit the money by Feb. 1.
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Lol.

Reminds me of moron bama fans that pester me to make "straight up" bets every year. Talk crap nonstop then when you say, "I don't we could pull it off, you never know".

Then its..."Let's put money on it then, dur hurr."

"What's the spread?"

"Hell, bama don't never cover no spread, im talking straight up, 20 bucks says bama takes it. What you ain't got faith in your boys? Come on now yous saying they cud pull it out. Back it up then, 20 bucks, I aint skeered."

"No thanks."

"At's whut i thout. We gone whup at azz."
 
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JMSqb11 said:
The point you are missing in all of this is that you can have the "healthiest team", but mistakes still happen. For instance, receivers running a poor route that results in a Pick6 or a wide open receiver bobbling the ball right into the defense's hands.

At the end of the day, QD wasn't a stellar QB at all. However, lets not sit here and say he was the main reason we lost a lot of games. Florida loss was not on him at all. Stat sheet village crazies will carry that narrative to the grave, but that is simply not true.

Fact of the matter is that the receivers literally dropped two wins from their hands in Florida and South Carolina. What was different about the two? The QB's who played.

Our receivers did more damage to our offense than our QB's did in the first 6-7 games of the season. If you can't acknowledge that, you are truly blinded in bias.
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i agree, but you cannot ignore turnovers between the 2. there's a difference you cannot manipulate with excuses. then there's mechanics like throwing off your backfoot, throwing a pick on the first play during the uga game. things like that KILL teams. we watched him trot out there series after series leading us to the worst home loss in over 50 years. yall really need to quit trying to defend dude. yeah its not all him, but a lot is. wr's have guys beat and he underthrows the wr causing turnovers and injuries. all qbs are taught its better to overthrow than underthrow. its like some of the basic qb things dormady severely lacked. not things u get from college coaching either.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
McBride was more fleeter on his feet than JG. However, both of them were 1 read guys that would take a sack if it wasn't there in JG or try to scamper thru people in McBride.

They were the epitome of low risk/low reward styles.

QD ain't no saint, but he took chances when evaluating his play WITH CONTEXT, he manageable. UGA game was inexplicable, but between playcalling, possible injury, and Captain Carter being a complete d!ck, no one was going to survive a full season under his Butchness.
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we dont know if JG is a one read guy or if guys like u guys say for dormady were running wrong routes. see, this is what exposes the hate. why assume JG couldn't go thru progressions like dormady and his wr's....the very same wr's run the wrong route? and instead of making dumb throws, JG tok hit after hit without turning the ball over meaning we still had a chance.
 
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lexkyvol said:
i agree, but you cannot ignore turnovers between the 2. there's a difference you cannot manipulate with excuses. then there's mechanics like throwing off your backfoot, throwing a pick on the first play during the uga game. things like that KILL teams. we watched him trot out there series after series leading us to the worst home loss in over 50 years. yall really need to quit trying to defend dude. yeah its not all him, but a lot is. wr's have guys beat and he underthrows the wr causing turnovers and injuries. all qbs are taught its better to overthrow than underthrow. its like some of the basic qb things dormady severely lacked. not things u get from college coaching either.
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If you just want to look at stat sheet, compare the two.

QD had 6 touchdowns to 6 picks. All while only having 3 sacks.

JG turned the ball over 66% less than QD, but the sacks were plentiful.

QD, by choice or fear, threw a lot of high risk/high reward passes. To be fair, he was only at fault for 3-4 turnovers (3 picks, 1 fumble) in all of his starts.

The difference between QD and JG summed up the Butchfense exactly. You either force your qb to make high risk/high reward passes like QD or have them sick back and get the chit beat out of them like JG.

My whole point is that this anti QD crusade that people have to prop up JG is completely absurd.
 
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lexkyvol said:
we dont know if JG is a one read guy or if guys like u guys say for dormady were running wrong routes. see, this is what exposes the hate. why assume JG couldn't go thru progressions like dormady and his wr's....the very same wr's run the wrong route? and instead of making dumb throws, JG tok hit after hit without turning the ball over meaning we still had a chance.
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You don't watch a lot of football do you?

It was very clear that Palmer ran the slant very elementary vs Florida at the goal line. Everyone knows you don't let the defender get inside on a slant.

M. Callaway said right after the game that he cut his route off much shorter than it was supposed to be. That's why the ball was high.

No one is saying these kids "ran the wrong route" just for the sake of it. I'm saying that because on one play, the receiver admitted he F#*ked up the route and the other is such a basic play that even a 10 year old would know how to properly run the route.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
If you just want to look at stat sheet, compare the two.

QD had 6 touchdowns to 6 picks. All while only having 3 sacks.

JG turned the ball over 66% less than QD, but the sacks were plentiful.

QD, by choice or fear, threw a lot of high risk/high reward passes. To be fair, he was only at fault for 3-4 turnovers (3 picks, 1 fumble) in all of his starts.

The difference between QD and JG summed up the Butchfense exactly. You either force your qb to make high risk/high reward passes like QD or have them sick back and get the chit beat out of them like JG.

My whole point is that this anti QD crusade that people have to prop up JG is completely absurd.
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I asm not hyping any of the QBs over the other. QD looked bad and is a Junior, JG was a RS Freshman and WM a True Freshman. The point is JG and WM played just as bad as Dormady at times but the have many years of eligibilty so why not give them the experience when The QB play isn't exceedingly better with the JR QB.

Dormady is the QB he is going to be as a Junior, JG and WM have a bigger upside to improve. JMHO!
 
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johnrlansford said:
I asm not hyping any of the QBs over the other. QD looked bad and is a Junior, JG was a RS Freshman and WM a True Freshman. The point is JG and WM played just as bad as Dormady at times but the have many years of eligibilty so why not give them the experience when The QB play isn't exceedingly better with the JR QB.

Dormady is the QB he is going to be as a Junior, JG and WM have a bigger upside to improve. JMHO!
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While that makes sense on paper, games are played and won/lost on paper. By your logic, Kiffin should have told Crompton to transfer and rolled out the starting job to Nick Stephens since he had 3 years of eligibility left.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
You don't watch a lot of football do you?

It was very clear that Palmer ran the slant very elementary vs Florida at the goal line. Everyone knows you don't let the defender get inside on a slant.

M. Callaway said right after the game that he cut his route off much shorter than it was supposed to be. That's why the ball was high.

No one is saying these kids "ran the wrong route" just for the sake of it. I'm saying that because on one play, the receiver admitted he F#*ked up the route and the other is such a basic play that even a 10 year old would know how to properly run the route.
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You must not watch enough foorball!:)

I am in no way saying that the WR played well this year, but at some point the QB just has to make plays that are give to him.

Let me be clear, NO ONE ON THE TENNESSEE FOOTBALL TEAM WAS GREAT THIS YEAR!

As far as you points:
The defender jumper the slant from Palmer, And Palmer didn't fight for position, the ball should have never been thrown.

The Ball to Calloway wasn't a timed route, He was fully turned and waiting when the ball was finally thrown. QD should have thrown the ball at the #s.

You have to adjust as a QB. All routes don't get ran correctly, the Receivers have to take what the defense gives them sometimes. A good QB makes these adjustments on the Fly which proves my point, QD isn't a very good QB!

Not all of the Turnovers are on QD but they are on the stat line. It doesn't matter whos fault it is "really" but QD has to take the blame as the QB. A great QB always take the blame, when the game is on the line it is on the QB!
 
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JMSqb11 said:
While that makes sense on paper, games are played and won/lost on paper. By your logic, Kiffin should have told Crompton to transfer and rolled out the starting job to Nick Stephens since he had 3 years of eligibility left.
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No it made sense on the level of QB play we were getting out of QD! JG and even WM weren't a step down from QD by any means!
 
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johnrlansford said:
You must not watch enough foorball!:)

I am in no way saying that the WR played well this year, but at some point the QB just has to make plays that are give to him.

Let me be clear, NO ONE ON THE TENNESSEE FOOTBALL TEAM WAS GREAT THIS YEAR!

As far as you points:
The defender jumper the slant from Palmer, And Palmer didn't fight for position, the ball should have never been thrown. You truly don't understand football if you don't realize that a quick slant is a one step drop and fire away with the football. It's solely on the receiver to be able to get inside of their defender on that play. That is football 101. If you don't get that, maybe you should go read up on some football basics.

The Ball to Calloway wasn't a timed route, He was fully turned and waiting when the ball was finally thrown. QD should have thrown the ball at the #s.

You have to adjust as a QB. All routes don't get ran correctly, the Receivers have to take what the defense gives them sometimes. A good QB makes these adjustments on the Fly which proves my point, QD isn't a very good QB!

Not all of the Turnovers are on QD but they are on the stat line. It doesn't matter whos fault it is "really" but QD has to take the blame as the QB. A great QB always take the blame, when the game is on the line it is on the QB!
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How does a QB adjust when a receiver cuts a route to short as the ball is being let go from the QB? And once again, Callaway took 100% responsibility for the blame for that Pick 6 as his cutting the route short resulted in a pick 6 that ultimately decided the game.

How does a QB adjust on a throw that is a one step drop and throw on a goal line slant placed perfectly where the receiver should be all while the receiver gets beat by his defender?

You truly don't understand football if you don't realize that a quick slant is a one step drop and fire away with the football. It's solely on the receiver to be able to get inside of their defender on that play. That is football 101. If you don't get that, maybe you should go read up on some football basics.

How does a QB adjust on a throw placed right into the receivers hands that gets bobbled up in the air by the receiver into the defender's hands for a pic? (Interception #2 in UGA game on the fade pass to Palmer)

Since you are the QB guru and all great evaluator, how does a QB adjust when 50% of his turnovers on solely the cause of receivers' fault?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
How does a QB adjust when a receiver cuts a route to short as the ball is being let go from the QB? And once again, Callaway took 100% responsibility for the blame for that Pick 6 as his cutting the route short resulted in a pick 6 that ultimately decided the game.

How does a QB adjust on a throw that is a one step drop and throw on a goal line slant placed perfectly where the receiver should be all while the receiver gets beat by his defender?

You truly don't understand football if you don't realize that a quick slant is a one step drop and fire away with the football. It's solely on the receiver to be able to get inside of their defender on that play. That is football 101. If you don't get that, maybe you should go read up on some football basics.

How does a QB adjust on a throw placed right into the receivers hands that gets bobbled up in the air by the receiver into the defender's hands for a pic? (Interception #2 in UGA game on the fade pass to Palmer)

Since you are the QB guru and all great evaluator, how does a QB adjust when 50% of his turnovers on solely the cause of receivers' fault?
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You Sir are a Dormady apologist and will never see anything that he does wrong! It is ok , next year you should probably watch whichever team Dormady ends up with, but he probably won't play there either, unless he goes outside of the P5 level.

This conversation is over, I have my opinion you have yours and they aren't gonna change. Maybe you should be Dormady's agent, he needs someone who still thinks he can make it to the NFL in his life right now!:thud:
 
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johnrlansford said:
You Sir are a Dormady apologist and will never see anything that he does wrong! It is ok , next year you should probably watch whichever team Dormady ends up with, but he probably won't play there either, unless he goes outside of the P5 level.

This conversation is over, I have my opinion you have yours and they aren't gonna change. Maybe you should be Dormady's agent, he needs someone who still thinks he can make it to the NFL in his life right now!:thud:
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Lol. And once again, you have played yourself.

When called out and exposed as a fraud, you simply name call and deflect.

Love it!
 
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Orange defense said:
Well! I didn’t see this, but I’m not the betting type, sorry. Here is why I’m serious, dawg for life. Pruitt will make Jim Cheney choke again. You and other dawg fans know that when he was at Tennessee, that is what happened to him. Y’all will be calling for his head before to long. Kirby Smart can’t beat Pruitt with his OC, and I don’t even think Smart can beat him at all. Pruitt is very good at making adjustments all of the time. Now with Sherrer, that will be a disaster in the making for Smart and his staff. Let me go farther and say this also: I don’t even think that your defensive co. can beat Ty Helton either, because this guy is a offensive genius. It is going to take someone to beat him, and I think the only person that can beat him right now is Nick Saban. Ty will give Saban and company fits, because of his offensive mind. I think by the time this recruiting class is done by Pruitt and his staff, y’all are going to realize that they are going to be just as good as yours. Keep laughing now, because we are coming for everyone l, and it starts in 2018.:hi::rock:
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You realize Smart was Bamas DC in 2015 and Pruitt was UGA's right? Bama won that game 31-10, so by your logic Smart has already beat Pruitt by a larger margin than Pruitt "beat" UGA. Of course you are ignoring the pattern that whoever has Bama's players wins. Hell, Kirby actually has UGA overachieving after all those years of underachieving.
 
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johnrlansford said:
You must not watch enough foorball!:)
As far as you points:
The defender jumper the slant from Palmer, And Palmer didn't fight for position, the ball should have never been thrown.
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Wow, you truly don't understand how that route works. This is a timing route and the QB is throwing to a spot. The ball is out of hands before the WR even breaks or at least thrown as the break is being made. As a receiver (and I played one in college), your number one priority on that route is to not let the defender get in front of you. Palmer stopped completely on that route. At a minimum, Palmer should have created a collision that caused a PI penalty.

If you look at the pre-snap read, this was the right read. Palmer was the middle receiver on trips left. The problem was as soon as Palmer felt the DB, he stopped and changed his route. This is 100% on Palmer. QD's read would have had him going to Callaway on the corner route or Palmer on the slant.

And for the record, the DB did not jump the route. He was pressing and jammed Palmer which caused him to change his route. If Palmer continues the route and fights for the position, that INT doesn't happen.
 
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jps2194 said:
Wow, you truly don't understand how that route works. This is a timing route and the QB is throwing to a spot. The ball is out of hands before the WR even breaks or at least thrown as the break is being made. As a receiver (and I played one in college), your number one priority on that route is to not let the defender get in front of you. Palmer stopped completely on that route. At a minimum, Palmer should have created a collision that caused a PI penalty.

If you look at the pre-snap read, this was the right read. Palmer was the middle receiver on trips left. The problem was as soon as Palmer felt the DB, he stopped and changed his route. This is 100% on Palmer. QD's read would have had him going to Callaway on the corner route or Palmer on the slant.

And for the record, the DB did not jump the route. He was pressing and jammed Palmer which caused him to change his route. If Palmer continues the route and fights for the position, that INT doesn't happen.
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To be honest I fault Dormady more because Palmer was never open on the play. Brandon Johnson was the open wr in the back of the end zone all he had to do was look off Palmer and it was a TD. Early in the season it seemed as if the coaching staff was trying to force Palmer to be this go to guy when he never was ready for it.
 
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A true freshman will be the starting QB next year. None of these QB's on the roster fit what Pruitt wants to do. JG is not the answer I'm sorry. I think Mcbride could be better. QD would have been perfect for this new offense.
 
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greazy1722 said:
To be honest I fault Dormady more because Palmer was never open on the play. Brandon Johnson was the open wr in the back of the end zone all he had to do was look off Palmer and it was a TD. Early in the season it seemed as if the coaching staff was trying to force Palmer to be this go to guy when he never was ready for it.
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Understand your perspective, but slant routes are a pre-snap read. If he runs the route correctly, he would be in a position to catch the ball. That play is probably designed for that route to be the #1 read as the receiver on either side of Palmer are running routes that will clear space. Watching it again I can see why QD read it that way.
 
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greazy1722 said:
To be honest I fault Dormady more because Palmer was never open on the play. Brandon Johnson was the open wr in the back of the end zone all he had to do was look off Palmer and it was a TD. Early in the season it seemed as if the coaching staff was trying to force Palmer to be this go to guy when he never was ready for it.
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Shocking analysis. :lol:
 
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greazy1722 said:
A true freshman will be the starting QB next year. None of these QB's on the roster fit what Pruitt wants to do. JG is not the answer I'm sorry. I think Mcbride could be better. QD would have been perfect for this new offense.
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Who’s Pruitt? Thought you guaranteed Butch would be back? :)
 
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jps2194 said:
Understand your perspective, but slant routes are a pre-snap read. If he runs the route correctly, he would be in a position to catch the ball. That play is probably designed for that route to be the #1 read as the receiver on either side of Palmer are running routes that will clear space. Watching it again I can see why QD read it that way.
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But Dormady have to look at the matchups. They took the slant away which left Brandon one on one with a Linebacker the Qb has to see that he had time to read that. True Palmer broke the route off, but he was a true freshman last year and the coaches put that kid in tough situations.
 
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