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Gramps said:
Seriously question prof.

It appears that Trump, Cruz or Hillary will be the next POTUS.

Which one can bring America together ?
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Not the Prof, Of the people running, I would say Kasich, but it's not going to happen.

I think Bernie is a nice honest person, but his ideas are very liberal and extreme.
 
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Here's a few takeaways from last night for you guys and gals to chew on...

1. Trump, yet again, received hours of free advertising from the major media outlets.

2. The liberal side now has seen they can disrupt the election process with the timely intervention of well placed forces of disruption.

3. Trump was smart in cancelling to deny the clashes that were sure to happen had this thing actually gone through.

4. It is ironic that a candidate that started making noise about limiting First Amendment Rights suddenly found himself muzzled by the People.

5. You will see more of this as it will embolden protesters to do it again.

6. If I had an Alex Jones side to me, my gut would be telling me someone hoped for significantly more violence and clashes to be blamed on Trump supporters.

7. Trump's numbers won't fall.

Just some thoughts on the matter.
 
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volprof said:
Trump supporters act surprised when their own rhetoric and methods get turned against them. Now, they're crying foul and complaining about persecution after having the "sissy *****" slapped out of them.
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This is and has always been liberal rhetoric and liberal actions. Worthless liberals aren't reacting to Trump, if anything he's reacting to them.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Here's a few takeaways from last night for you guys and gals to chew on...

1. Trump, yet again, received hours of free advertising from the major media outlets.

2. The liberal side now has seen they can disrupt the election process with the timely intervention of well placed forces of disruption.

3. Trump was smart in cancelling to deny the clashes that were sure to happen had this thing actually gone through.

4. It is ironic that a candidate that started making noise about limiting First Amendment Rights suddenly found himself muzzled by the People.

5. You will see more of this as it will embolden protesters to do it again.

6. If I had an Alex Jones side to me, my gut would be telling me someone hoped for significantly more violence and clashes to be blamed on Trump supporters.

7. Trump's numbers won't fall.

Just some thoughts on the matter.
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I generally agree with everything you say here, except that my Alex Jones' side would tell me that Trump knew good and damn well what he was doing when he chose this bizarre venue.

You're spot on about Trump's support. He's Teflon Don; he can literally do nothing to affect his fanatics support for him. Tomorrow, he could probably command them to go kill all the first born of Egypt, and they'd oblige. Heck, he even "joked" (although I think he was probably only half-joking) that he could murder somebody, and his supporters would still love him, which is probably true.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Here's a few takeaways from last night for you guys and gals to chew on...

1. Trump, yet again, received hours of free advertising from the major media outlets.

2. The liberal side now has seen they can disrupt the election process with the timely intervention of well placed forces of disruption.

3. Trump was smart in cancelling to deny the clashes that were sure to happen had this thing actually gone through.

4. It is ironic that a candidate that started making noise about limiting First Amendment Rights suddenly found himself muzzled by the People.

5. You will see more of this as it will embolden protesters to do it again.

6. If I had an Alex Jones side to me, my gut would be telling me someone hoped for significantly more violence and clashes to be blamed on Trump supporters.

7. Trump's numbers won't fall.

Just some thoughts on the matter.
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Yep, yep, yep, yep, absolutely - will be seeing way more of this, yep, yep.
 
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tumscalcium said:
This is and has always been liberal rhetoric and liberal actions. Worthless liberals aren't reacting to Trump, if anything he's reacting to them.
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Okay, Black Lives Matter member of a different hue. We get it: you're persecuted, everyone is out to get you, and it's never your fault.
 
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It's only a matter of time until we see BLM and other liberal extremists gather in these urban settings to block Trump supporters from going to the polls.
 
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volprof said:
I generally agree with everything you say here, except that my Alex Jones' side would tell me that Trump knew good and damn well what he was doing when he chose this bizarre venue.
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I might agree with that, but other GOP candidates have already been in Chi-town without incident. To include Ted Cruz that did one last night as well.

Rally For Marco Rubio - Chicago Republican Party

Presidential primary candidates visiting Chicago - Chicago Tribune

Rand Paul hits Chicago next week to discuss ‘failed liberal policies’ | Chicago Sun-Times

Ohio Gov. Kasich stumps in suburbs as part of Midwestern strategy - Chicago Tribune

And the other thing is the protest was known well in advance.

Chicago protesters plan to greet Donald Trump at Friday rally | WGN-TV
 
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lawgator1 said:
You are proving his point. Trump has actively courted angry white voters, who want more done to reassert their dominance over racial minorities and the poor. He highlights those divisions and echoes and promotes the resentments.
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This is 100% false. His campaign is about ending the corruption of the Obama administration and the extreme coddling of the poor that has become commonplace in our country. Obama has encouraged the divisiveness in our country, and it will only get worse with Clinton or Sanders as president.
 
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Grand Vol said:
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Walken?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Here's a few takeaways from last night for you guys and gals to chew on...

1. Trump, yet again, received hours of free advertising from the major media outlets.

2. The liberal side now has seen they can disrupt the election process with the timely intervention of well placed forces of disruption.

3. Trump was smart in cancelling to deny the clashes that were sure to happen had this thing actually gone through.

4. It is ironic that a candidate that started making noise about limiting First Amendment Rights suddenly found himself muzzled by the People.

5. You will see more of this as it will embolden protesters to do it again.

6. If I had an Alex Jones side to me, my gut would be telling me someone hoped for significantly more violence and clashes to be blamed on Trump supporters.

7. Trump's numbers won't fall.

Just some thoughts on the matter.
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As to number 6, it's the reverse. The forces of Evil wanted more clashes to blame on the protestors.

I think it's pretty obvious both sides were out of control. I think Trump is largely to blame, but honestly does not understand it.

He thinks he's being funny when he talks about wanting to punch people in the face, or angrily throw them out, or take them out on a stretcher. I really don't think he understands the effect he is having on people with those comments.
 
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volprof said:
Trump supporters act surprised when their own rhetoric and methods get turned against them. Now, they're crying foul and complaining about persecution after having the "sissy *****" slapped out of them.
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I missed when they showed up to Bernie rallies seeking to cause a disturbance and claimed success in forcing the rally to be canceled.
 
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The people blaming Trump for last night's violence are nuts. That was a well organized mob that wanted to stifle a candidate that they don't agree with.

The violence last night dwarfs any allegations at a Trump rally. And the narrative being pushed that Trump encourages violence is a farce.

I've got to say that I lost a lot of respect for Cruz last night in the way he responded to this event. Expected it from lil Marco.
 
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DC_Vol said:
The people blaming Trump for last night's violence are nuts. That was a well organized mob that wanted to stifle a candidate that they don't agree with.

The violence last night dwarfs any allegations at a Trump rally. And the narrative being pushed that Trump encourages violence is a farce.

I've got to say that I lost a lot of respect for Cruz last night in the way he responded to this event. Expected it from lil Marco.
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Kasich did the same this morning. I was shocked that he went there.
 
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DC_Vol said:
The people blaming Trump for last night's violence are nuts. That was a well organized mob that wanted to stifle a candidate that they don't agree with.

The violence last night dwarfs any allegations at a Trump rally. And the narrative being pushed that Trump encourages violence is a farce.

I've got to say that I lost a lot of respect for Cruz last night in the way he responded to this event. Expected it from lil Marco.
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There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of this. You cannot completely absolve Trump in this matter as he has helped create the environment to make it happen.
 
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vols4sure said:
I missed when they showed up to Bernie rallies seeking to cause a disturbance and claimed success in forcing the rally to be canceled.
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It's because the anger of leftist protesters is always justified. There were incidents of violence in 2008 at Obama events, but it was always assumed it was because of some bigot. It would never be blamed on Obama telling people to get loud and "get in their faces".

Then non violent protest - ahem, the Tea Party - that were as true to our democratic system as you can find were poo poo'd and called racist. Imagine if they had gone the route of the leftist mob last night. NEVER would that be blamed on the candidate.

It's ridiculous and I refuse to entertain the idea Trump is responsible for a bunch of thugs getting rowdy in the streets.
 
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Kicking out protesters at your own rally has nothing to do with free speech so long as they have a place to protest (i.e. outside the rally).
 
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Trump incites but the violence imo is more the work of subversives and after last nights success the disruption will become a fixture at future events
 
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Grand Vol said:
There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of this. You cannot completely absolve Trump in this matter as he has helped create the environment to make it happen.
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Yes, I've absolved him of any responsibility. When he starts enciting people to violence I will reevaluate.
 
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