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zeppelin128 said:
Agreed. The DNC and GOP smelt blood in the water after he screwed up his interview with Jake Trapper yesterday, and the media is running with it.
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It was one of the silliest things I've ever seen him do. Even when he condemned the endorsement on Friday, it looked like he was trying to do it in a way that would draw as little attention as possible. And then a few days later he acts like has no clue.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
You are Hugely mistaken.
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For the record, I am not a Trumpster. I've made it clear how I feel about the guy.

But Frankie is correct. I believe his support is going to surprise a lot of people. I know many lifelong conservatives that have embraced the Trump candidacy and are not looking back. I cannot talk them out of it.

Conversely, I know many lifelong moderate to strong Democrats (and this is in the Maryland suburbs of DC, a blue jackass stronghold) who are equally committed to him. I don't get it but that's where we're at.
 
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The more I hear GOP politicians speak, the more I'm beginning to think we may very well witness the first official major split of a major American political party that we've seen in what, 50, 60, 70 years or more? I think this has real potential. A Trump nomination could potentially split the Republican Party into two off-shoots.

I think right now the only real question is not whether or not Trump will win the bid (he will), but what the Republican Party will do once that is confirmed. I don't think it accepts it. Instead, I think it's a matter of whether the Republican Party decides it wants to go with another candidate and forces Trump into independence, or if the Republican Party decides it now needs to divide for good. Honestly, the latter would not surprise me, although I still find it more unlikely than the other. The Republican Party has been a discombobulated mess for some time now. It is perhaps only a matter of time before its fractures into two. Maybe Trump is the guy to finally do it.
 
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volprof said:
The more I hear GOP politicians speak, the more I'm beginning to think we may very well witness the first official major split of a major American political party that we've seen in what, 50, 60, 70 years or more? I think this has real potential. A Trump nomination could potentially split the Republican Party into two off-shoots.

I think right now the only real question is not whether or not Trump will win the bid (he will), but what the Republican Party will do once that is confirmed. I don't think it accepts it. Instead, I think it's a matter of whether the Republican Party decides it wants to go with another candidate and forces Trump into independence, or if the Republican Party decides it now needs to divide for good. Honestly, the latter would not surprise me, although I still find it more unlikely than the other. The Republican Party has been a discombobulated mess for some time now. It is perhaps only a matter of time before its fractures into two. Maybe Trump is the guy to finally do it.
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I agree and hope the same. My opinion is more than half of the GOP could run as Democrats and nobody could tell the difference.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I agree and hope the same. My opinion is more than half of the GOP could run as Democrats and nobody could tell the difference.
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I've heard that, besides a few "minor" things (like abortion and gay marriage, which Europe, for the most part, decided upon decades ago), Europeans have a difficult time determining the differences between American Republicans and Democrats, because they're essentially the same, in Europeans' opinions.
 
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DC_Vol said:
For the record, I am not a Trumpster. I've made it clear how I feel about the guy.

But Frankie is correct. I believe his support is going to surprise a lot of people. I know many lifelong conservatives that have embraced the Trump candidacy and are not looking back. I cannot talk them out of it.

Conversely, I know many lifelong moderate to strong Democrats (and this is in the Maryland suburbs of DC, a blue jackass stronghold) who are equally committed to him. I don't get it but that's where we're at.
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I spoke to a life long democrat about 2 weeks ago, a guy
47 years old. I asked him if he would be voting for Hillary. He said, "Hell no. I can't stand that b*tch. I'm going to vote for Trump or Cruz."
 
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volprof said:
I've heard that, besides a few "minor" things (like abortion and gay marriage, which Europe, for the most part, decided upon decades ago), Europeans have a difficult time determining the differences between American Republicans and Democrats, because they're essentially the same, in Europeans' opinions.
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Well they're Europeans and have a completely different outlook on government and the individual. Honestly, the last thing I would think twice about is what the Europeans think of our political system.
 
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carlos86 said:
He's not going to be able to lay a glove on her when he's asked in a debate to explain his stance on the Central Park 5.
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And people wonder why anyone with a brain refuses to support the man. There's too many wrongs in that statement to address all of them but the two major ones are the abuse of executive power and the fact that cops should have no extra rights than any other citizen when it comes to the use of lethal force
 
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The candidates, in football parlance:

Trump = Alabama. People are all over the bandwagon because he's winning and he's selling that winning feeling. Either you love them or hate them.

Cruz = Ohio State. Just a straight up arrogant and cocky attitude. But can back it up with winning from time to time. However, outside of direct fans, nobody like him.

Rubio = Tennessee. Gets right there on the cusp of greatness and all the sudden, poof! Someone tossed a log into the path and he stumbles just enough not to get on top.

Kasich = Oklahoma State. Good players, good coach, small, but passionate fan base. Just can't ever seem to get out ahead of the group. But always puts up a good game.

Carson = Georgia Tech. Is really smart and has a nice following. But just won't ever make it to the big time running that kind of offense.

Hillary = Florida State. Gets away with anything because the fans refuse to accept their chosen one is guilty.

Bernie = Iowa. Great in conference play. But when he goes outside his comfort zone, he gets smoked by the competition.

Gary Johnson = Boise State. Tends to do pretty well within the conference and puts up a great game against bigger opponents. But is limited in options because of his conference.

John McAfee = SMU. Banned from conference play.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Kasich? I couldn't see that. The few who like Kasich would never vote for him if he joined forces with trump.
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Kasich voters are serious, astute voters, just like he is a serious politician, who would never lower himself to joining a Trump ticket.

Trump will just have to find a clown to run with him.
 
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alexmanu said:
Palin, or maybe Carson. Both seem dim enough.
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Carson is very intelligent IMO. And dare I say too intelligent to be running for President.

He's the kind of guy that doesn't fit into the 60 second soundbite because his answers are generally too complex and drawn out. He tends to give decent thoughts on the matter, but you can tell he isn't comfortable in the debate settings. But he tends to do great in like a town hall setting.

But make no mistake, dim he is not.
 
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There is no doubting Carson's intelligence as a surgeon. But when it comes to current affairs and politics he comes across as pretty dim. It's why he has such sparse support.
 
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alexmanu said:
There is no doubting Carson's intelligence as a surgeon. But when it comes to current affairs and politics he comes across as pretty dim. It's why he has such sparse support.
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Well, he isn't a politician lol

I think he probably overthinks things, analyzing all the possible responses through to a logical conclusion before giving an answer.
 
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