2016 Election Thread Part Deux

[McDad]

Trump doesn't actually build things though. He uses the money he inherited to buy properties and put his name on them.

You know how the folks sound who say all kinds of crazy stuff about Obama or Hillary?

...Yeah, that's what you sound like now.

Trump is actually a fairly successful developer. He makes most of his money by licensing his name. Trump's true talent is in self promotion.

 

[McDad]

Here's the thing though...

If Trump was serious about cleaning up the government and putting out a plan to do so. A realistic plan and not just some Rand Paul plan to just cut budgets. But a serious look at getting rid of the waste and rot within the federal government (or at least in the Executive Branch) by firing those that need to be gone and dialing back the regulations and power of many of the agencies, he'd win in the largest victory...

...And yet no one is advocating for these things. I can't understand it.

 

[37L1]

Trump doesn't actually build things though. He uses the money he inherited to buy properties and put his name on them.

Yeah, OK, I can see where you're coming from.











When you going back, soon?

 

[Sin City Vol]

Here's the thing though...

If Trump was serious about cleaning up the government and putting out a plan to do so. A realistic plan and not just some Rand Paul plan to just cut budgets. But a serious look at getting rid of the waste and rot within the federal government (or at least in the Executive Branch) by firing those that need to be gone and dialing back the regulations and power of many of the agencies, he'd win in the largest victory since Reagan in 84.

I agree it isn't easy to do, but we have to start somewhere.

I don't believe he's interested in doing any of it and same goes for Hillary. I think they both want to be President just to say they were POTUS.

My biggest fear regarding Trump is he will embarrass our country with his ignorant off the cuff remarks and will only change policies to benefit Trump. He has way to much of an ego to do this job. He stays focused on the media, whats he going to do when it gets worse?

My biggest fear about Hillary is she will lie to cover her ass instead of owning up to her mistakes as President and will set our country back even further.

This is the worst election I have ever witnessed (1st voted in Clintons (BILL) first run at President.

 

[hog88]

Funny thing that is only actually happening in R controlled states who consistently have the least healthy, least educated, poorest residents. Rural Republican counties are full of people living off the government with little education. Dem controlled states are better in education, health, and income. Lie to yourself if you want to though.

Then why are all of these healthy, educated, rich urbanites (yankees) flocking down here? Man I wouldn't want to raise my kids in an uneducated, unhealthy, poor area.

 

[k-town_king]

Then why are all of these healthy, educated, rich urbanites (yankees) flocking down here? Man I wouldn't want to raise my kids in an uneducated, unhealthy, poor area.

They have made money and been educated already . They are successful enough to move here and take advantage of lower cost of living and real estate. Sounds smart to me. Make a bunch of money, move somewhere cheap where the locals don't make much and live like a king. I used to deal with clients that had recently retired to the area. Pretty much every single one had a huge house with land on the river or lake down here. Leave the city for the country and live well. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[hog88]

They have made money and been educated already . They are successful enough to move here and take advantage of lower cost of living and real estate. Sounds smart to me. Make a bunch of money, move somewhere cheap where the locals don't make much and live like a king. I used to deal with clients that had recently retired to the area. Pretty much every single one had a huge house with land on the river or lake down here. Leave the city for the country and live well. Nothing wrong with that.

Then how do you explain all of the industry, corporate headquarters and young people moving to Nashville, Atlanta, Houston ext in droves?

 

[1972 Grad]

What is your biggest concern in regards to the SCOTUS? Guns, abortion??

Not concerned about abortion, but everything else. The voters or the state legislatures pass laws, and the various courts find some way to overturn them. When the liberals can't get something through by the voters or their representatives, they legislate from the bench. The 3 that I mentioned NEVER take anything but a liberal view on anything before them. They are an extension of the Democratic Party.

So, do I worry about 2nd amendment? Let's put it this way. If they can find a way to round up guns, they would do it in a heartbeat. It won't be pretty if that ever happens.

 

[lawgator1]

Here's the thing though...

If Trump was serious about cleaning up the government and putting out a plan to do so. A realistic plan and not just some Rand Paul plan to just cut budgets. But a serious look at getting rid of the waste and rot within the federal government (or at least in the Executive Branch) by firing those that need to be gone and dialing back the regulations and power of many of the agencies, he'd win in the largest victory since Reagan in 84.

I agree it isn't easy to do, but we have to start somewhere.

I guess we just fundamentally disagree on whether that's really where he's coming from. There's a difference between cutting government bureaucracy to make it leaner and more efficient versus doing it to just pave the road for businesses to function with less restraint just to be pro business.

To walk that line, you have to know what the government actually is doing in a given area. I just don't think Trump has the patience to learn that

 

[Carl Pickens]

Yea and the Rs have their base that will vote R even with an idiot like Trump. They have cornered the ignorant, uneducated, scared White vote. That combined with the corporate vote and the anti abortion crazies are all they get pretty much. Good thing their demographics are shrinking and people are becoming better informed and educated.

See Detroit, Memphis, Baltimore, New Orleans..... That's your ideal demographic..... Yes? How are they fairing?

 

[Grand Vol]

I guess we just fundamentally disagree on whether that's really where he's coming from. There's a difference between cutting government bureaucracy to make it leaner and more efficient versus doing it to just pave the road for businesses to function with less restraint just to be pro business.

To walk that line, you have to know what the government actually is doing in a given area. I just don't think Trump has the patience to learn that

I did qualify that post with "if" he wanted to.

And let's be honest. Maybe the country needs someone impatient to cut through the nonsense and red tape. Either a clean slate or someone not afraid of the government unions to say "eff you, you're fired."

That kind of action would at least keep you lawyers in business for a while.

 

[slobberknocker]

I don't believe he's interested in doing any of it and same goes for Hillary. I think they both want to be President just to say they were POTUS.

My biggest fear regarding Trump is he will embarrass our country with his ignorant off the cuff remarks and will only change policies to benefit Trump. He has way to much of an ego to do this job. He stays focused on the media, whats he going to do when it gets worse?

My biggest fear about Hillary is she will lie to cover her ass instead of owning up to her mistakes as President and will set our country back even further.

This is the worst election I have ever witnessed (1st voted in Clintons (BILL) first run at President.

I couldn't agree more sin. I wish more people would realize what a cluster**** this is. I first got involved with politics during Nixon years, too many of my friends weren't coming back from Nam and those that did were forever changed.
I also worked for Howard Baker's re-election when I lived in JC at ETSU. He was the last true "statesman" in TN as far as I'm concerned. But everybody has their own opinion.

 

[volprof]

Surprised no one has discussed Trump's big boy pants teleprompter foreign policy speech today. For those who didn't get to listen to it, here's a breakdown:

1. ISIS is awful, and we should act viciously against it.

2. Russia and Putin good

3. We need "extreme vetting" of all immigrants to this country.

4. The Arab Spring and its aftermath are all Obama's and Clinton's fault.

5. We should no longer be in the "nation building" business, but, when we do invade a place, we should steal everything it and its inhabitants have and take their resources and possessions for our own, possibly including even their women and children (it was a little unclear).

That's pretty much the gist of it.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Surprised no one has discussed Trump's big boy pants teleprompter foreign policy speech today. For those who didn't get to listen to it, here's a breakdown:

1. ISIS is awful, and we should act viciously against it.

2. Russia and Putin good

3. We need "extreme vetting" of all immigrants to this country.

4. The Arab Spring and its aftermath are all Obama's and Clinton's fault.

5. We should no longer be in the "national building" business, but, when we do invade a place, we should steal everything it and its inhabitants have and take them for our own, possibly even the women and children (it was a little unclear).

That's pretty much the gist of it.

Viva Trump! Excellent foreign policy speech.

Is they white?

 

[volprof]

Viva Trump! Excellent foreign policy speech.

Is they white?

Every time you post, I get a good chuckle.

And then I remember you're a voter.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

It has now been 253 Days since Crooked Hillary last held a Press Conference.

Why won't Crooked Hillary hold a formal press conference? What is she Afraid of?

 

[1972 Grad]

Surprised no one has discussed Trump's big boy pants teleprompter foreign policy speech today. For those who didn't get to listen to it, here's a breakdown:

1. ISIS is awful, and we should act viciously against it.

2. Russia and Putin good

3. We need "extreme vetting" of all immigrants to this country.

4. The Arab Spring and its aftermath are all Obama's and Clinton's fault.

5. We should no longer be in the "nation building" business, but, when we do invade a place, we should steal everything it and its inhabitants have and take their resources and possessions for our own, possibly including even their women and children (it was a little unclear).

That's pretty much the gist of it.

Teleprompter? Is Trump the only politician who has ever used one ?

 

[volfanhill]

Every time you post, I get a good chuckle.

And then I remember you're a voter.

You should be more concerned that he probably has children

 

[volprof]

Teleprompter? Is Trump the only politician who has ever used one ?

No. In fact, most have.

The teleprompter, however, has a unique relationship with the Trump campaign in particular. Its presence is how we know that the reality TV show is supposed to temporarily go to commercial before it comes back again.

And we love this reality TV show, in part, because there are so few commercials.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

There are now only 157 Days until America's first Muslim president must leave the White House.

 

[1972 Grad]

There are now only 157 Days until America's first Muslim president must leave the White House.

Still that many, huh?

 

[volfanhill]

There are now only 157 Days until America's first Muslim president must leave the White House.

I thought he was going to declare martial law and refuse to leave ?

 

[spankadelphia]

Liberals are now pissing themselves over a new Paul Manafort "scandal" over his work in Ukraine:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/us/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?_r=0

How Paul Manafort Wielded Power in Ukraine Before Advising Donald Trump

It is not clear that Mr. Manafort’s work in Ukraine ended with his work with Mr. Trump’s campaign. A communications aide for Mr. Lyovochkin, who financed Mr. Manafort’s work, declined to say whether he was still on retainer or how much he had been paid.

LOL but HRC actually gave Russia Uranium:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Comments from Hill give Russia Uraninum:

The Clintons have always danced on the edges of ethics and propriety. Mrs. Clinton's defense of the foundation's acceptance of foreign money just a few weeks ago, as she was about to begin the campaign for the office she has so wanted to run for just makes no sense. Couldn't they just have said no to certain types of money?

This is what bothers people about the Clintons. They should know better. They have to know better. Yet, they still squeak by the rules even when they know it'll look and sound awful.

It isn't wise. It isn't classy. It's the opposite of what America needs at a time when citizens' belief in core institutions is at its lowest and corruption is rampant. We need someone with more self-control and an unwavering moral compass.

This far away from the Democratic convention, I refuse to believe that this is all we've got.

You best start believin' in ****lib/globalist conspiracies, Mz Gender*****bergstein - YOU'RE IN ONE!!!

From the spastic, deranged comments on that Manafort article:

So we have a political operative, with deep financial ties to oligarchs of Putin's kleptocracy, who has built his career making over authoritarians as demagogues running the bigoted, white nationalist campaign of a wealthy American huckster turned demagogue, who repeatedly promises to make "great deals" as President without ever once specifying what kind or with whom. "Your head will spin."

bigoted, white nationalist campaign of a wealthy American huckster turned demagogue!!!!

Where is the CIA and the FBI when we really do need them? How could this not be investigated? And those who know better, like Paul Ryan and Senator Mitch McConnell, how do they live with themselves by not denouncing Trumps candidacy? There would be handcuffs out by now if it was Hillary.

LOL, OK. Why don't you ask James Comey about that?

This story is not going away. The question is whether or not Drumpf got money from Russia and whether or not Drumpf is paying Russia back by doing Putin's bidding. Donald knocks NATO, which help protect the Baltic nations and Putin looks as if he is trying to reclaim former Soviet territories. Drumpf basically asks Russia to acquire lost emails and Hillary is attacked again. If someone connects the dots, this might be bigger than 'Watergate'. This is getting ugly.

Bigger than Watergate, bigots! Got that? BTW, Le anyone else Le Drumpf?

Every time I see Paul Manafort's name in the paper, I wonder, What would Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan say to a REPUBLICAN hiring that creep? While Trump himself is thoroughly ignorant and uncivil, his Russian handler just makes my skin crawl.

LOL, yes ****lib, I wonder what REAGAN would say to someone who hired Paul Manafort.

****libs are the REAL low-information voters

Can you imagine the outrage if this was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager?

The double standards in this campaign are beyond ridiculous. The bar is set so low for Trump, yet sky high for Clinton.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

 

[volprof]

Liberals are now pissing themselves over a new Paul Manafort "scandal" over his work in Ukraine:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/us/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?_r=0



LOL but HRC actually gave Russia Uranium:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Comments from Hill give Russia Uraninum:



You best start believin' in ****lib/globalist conspiracies, Mz Gender*****bergstein - YOU'RE IN ONE!!!

From the spastic ****lib comments on that Manafort article:



bigoted, white nationalist campaign of a wealthy American huckster turned demagogue!!!!



LOL, OK. Why don't you ask James Comey about that?



Bigger than Watergate, bigots! Got that? BTW, Le anyone else Le Drumpf?



LOL, yes ****lib, I wonder what REAGAN would say to someone who hired Paul Manafort.

****libs are the REAL low-information voters



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Cocaine's a helluva drug.

 

[red butler]

Surprised no one has discussed Trump's big boy pants teleprompter foreign policy speech today. For those who didn't get to listen to it, here's a breakdown:

1. ISIS is awful, and we should act viciously against it.

2. Russia and Putin good

3. We need "extreme vetting" of all immigrants to this country.

4. The Arab Spring and its aftermath are all Obama's and Clinton's fault.

5. We should no longer be in the "nation building" business, but, when we do invade a place, we should steal everything it and its inhabitants have and take their resources and possessions for our own, possibly including even their women and children (it was a little unclear).

That's pretty much the gist of it.

For number 5 you forgot the the best part - "See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"