2016 Election Thread Part Deux

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lawgator1 said:
One of the shows had an accountant on the other day who had reverse engineered Trump's returns, and says that the issue is that his actual reported income must be shockingly low compared to what Trump claims, on the order of less than a half a million, given some of the tax credits he has claimed.

So there are many schools of thought on this. 1) Income very low; 2) shenanigans on the business returns; 3) links to Russian banks; 4) abysmal charitable giving; 5) deductions for kids we don't know about; 6) very low reported income; 7) underreported income.

The list goes on.

Personally, I am in the camp that Clinton ought to release ten years' worth of speech transcripts and Trump ought to release ten years' worth of tax returns.
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Reverse engineered his tax returns -- lulz
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
How were they duped? The RNC totally screwed the pooch by allowing 17 candidates to run until they ran out of money. The blame for all of this rests squarely on their shoulders, because as they said "we make the rules". There is no excuse.
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SpaceCoastVol said:
You really don't get it do you?
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I get it. A record number of voters VOTED against the anti establishment candidate and bucked who the RNC "wanted".

The VOTERS made their bed. Don't blame the bed because you made it with poop on the sheets.
 
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mrorange211 said:
I can't wait until February when HRC endorses TPP. It's going to be fantastic.
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It's coming. I will make a prediction that if Hillary takes office, she doesn't make it 4 years. Most likely scenario, she has a stroke, or a brain aneurysm. I think her coughing is tied to taking ACE inhibitors.
 
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volinbham said:
Reverse engineered his tax returns -- lulz
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This was one of them.

Forbes Welcome

Donald Trump, the self-proclaimed $10 billion dollar man, is still receiving an exemption on his property tax bill only available to individuals or households making under $500,000 a year. According to the latest tax statement for his 30,000 square-foot Trump Tower penthouse, the presumptive Republican nominee is getting a $304 credit from the New York State School Tax Relief Program (STAR) — a credit designed to lessen the burden on middle-class homeowners.
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1972 Grad said:
It's coming. I will make a prediction that if Hillary takes office, she doesn't make it 4 years. Most likely scenario, she has a stroke, or a brain aneurysm. I think her coughing is tied to taking ACE inhibitors.
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I think it's the tiny alien running her body trying to cry for help to be let out.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I missed the part where they made the majority of primary voters vote for Trump.
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Let's see, they put up the same old establishment candidates, and allowed them to split the vote for 5 months. They all said the exact same thing except for one. The RNC did not have to allow it to go down this way. At all. They make the rules.

So.... Trump knows how to market himself. Be different. Stand out. He did. Name one difference between Jeb and Chris Christy or Kaisich... or..... hell, name all of the original 17 candidates. Can you? I certainly can't. But they were all there 4 or 5 months into the process.

Why?

Even the NBA has a cutoff as to who can make the playoffs.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Let's see, they put up the same old establishment candidates, and allowed them to split the vote for 5 months. They all said the exact same thing except for one. The RNC did not have to allow it to go down this way. At all. They make the rules.

So.... Trump knows how to market himself. Be different. Stand out. He did. Name one difference between Jeb and Chris Christy or Kaisich... or..... hell, name all of the original 17 candidates. Can you? I certainly can't. But they were all there 4 or 5 months into the process.

Why?

Even the NBA has a cutoff as to who can make the playoffs.
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WTF....do you even read what you write? You're blaming the RNC for the voting block being stupid enough to back Trump?

All this time the crowing about how Trump was flipping off the establishment and he's shaking them up....and NOW it's the RNC's fault he made it to the top?

You can't make this sh## up.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
WTF....do you even read what you write? You're blaming the RNC for the voting block being stupid enough to back Trump?

All this time the crowing about how Trump was flipping off the establishment and he's shaking them up....and NOW it's the RNC's fault he made it to the top?

You can't make this sh## up.
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Trump's success with a discreet voting block is in my mind another reverberation of the changing economy and demographics.

The unbelievably rapid advances in technology and globalization have absolutely gutted the foundation for the economies in places like Ohio, Wisconsin, W. Va., and Michigan. The families who for generations supplied the labor for the industries that used to be strong there are struggling to reinvent themselves. They either can't change their skill sets due to poor education opportunities, or they don't want to because its hard to fathom reconstructing those economies without any money.

The displaced workers and their families are looking for someone to blame, other than themselves. And Trump has targeted some groups that already have some issues and have a very limited ability to fight back. Illegal immigrants from Mexico and Middle Eastern people who look strange and have odd customs are easy to blame.

So you have to give him credit for tying himself to that. And I'll tell you what, no matter how many foolish things he says or does, that core group of his support aren't going anywhere. While we may all find it head-scratchingly dumb that he goes after the family of a dead US soldier for being Muslim, that attack on them plays right into his wheelhouse.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
WTF....do you even read what you write? You're blaming the RNC for the voting block being stupid enough to back Trump?

All this time the crowing about how Trump was flipping off the establishment and he's shaking them up....and NOW it's the RNC's fault he made it to the top?

You can't make this sh## up.
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That's exactly what happened Einstein. Too bad that you are too dense to realize it. The primary vote was so diluted by the shear number of candidates that no clear opponent could emerge. The RNC's fault. Completely.

And I'm not crowing. I don't like Trump. At all. But I hate HiLIARy. A lot.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump's success with a discreet voting block is in my mind another reverberation of the changing economy and demographics.

The unbelievably rapid advances in technology and globalization have absolutely gutted the foundation for the economies in places like Ohio, Wisconsin, W. Va., and Michigan. The families who for generations supplied the labor for the industries that used to be strong there are struggling to reinvent themselves. They either can't change their skill sets due to poor education opportunities, or they don't want to because its hard to fathom reconstructing those economies without any money.

The displaced workers and their families are looking for someone to blame, other than themselves. And Trump has targeted some groups that already have some issues and have a very limited ability to fight back. Illegal immigrants from Mexico and Middle Eastern people who look strange and have odd customs are easy to blame.

So you have to give him credit for tying himself to that. And I'll tell you what, no matter how many foolish things he says or does, that core group of his support aren't going anywhere. While we may all find it head-scratchingly dumb that he goes after the family of a dead US soldier for being Muslim, that attack on them plays right into his wheelhouse.
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Who are you and how did you hack LG's account?
 
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Septic said:
Are you nuts?

Best case scenario at this point is HRC winning and the congress and senate remain firmly in GOP control.

Gridlock baby - nothing gets done.
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In that scenario we just continue the status quo, nothing changes and we continue our march to the cliff. We're going off that cliff one day and personally I'd rather take that plunge now while I'm young enough to survive it and climb back up.

A HRC presidency with a Dem controlled Senate or hell a Trump presidency period just might wake people the **** up and effect real change before we can't climb back up that cliff.
 
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hog88 said:
In that scenario we just continue the status quo, nothing changes and we continue our march to the cliff. We're going off that cliff one day and personally I'd rather take that plunge now while I'm young enough to survive it and climb back up.

A HRC presidency with a Dem controlled Senate or hell a Trump presidency period just might wake people the **** up and effect real change before we can't climb back up that cliff.
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If 8 years of barry hasn't woke them up, nothing will. I have no faith in the American people we are full of lazy and ignorant people. We will crash and we deserve it
 
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lawgator1 said:
One of the shows had an accountant on the other day who had reverse engineered Trump's returns, and says that the issue is that his actual reported income must be shockingly low compared to what Trump claims, on the order of less than a half a million, given some of the tax credits he has claimed.

So there are many schools of thought on this. 1) Income very low; 2) shenanigans on the business returns; 3) links to Russian banks; 4) abysmal charitable giving; 5) deductions for kids we don't know about; 6) very low reported income; 7) underreported income.

The list goes on.

Personally, I am in the camp that Clinton ought to release ten years' worth of speech transcripts and Trump ought to release ten years' worth of tax returns.
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1. Actually salary and income may be lower than what the normal person would expect. I'm sure he defers income and his perks make up the difference.

2. His business returns would be completely separate from his personal.

3. Unless he has a mortgage or received dividends, has an investment account personally with a Russian entity there would be no way to determine a connection to a Russian bank.

4. Possible and would show.

5. At less than a 1/2 a million in income he wouldn't receive any deductions for children so there would be none shown. Surely he claims more than $175k per year in income.

6. Possible

7. Very doubtful as that is a major violation and I'd bet he has been audited fairly regularly.

In short that was a ****ty accountant they had on that show who was pandering to the uniformed. He got you.
 
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volfanjustin said:
If 8 years of barry hasn't woke them up, nothing will. I have no faith in the American people we are full of lazy and ignorant people. We will crash and we deserve it
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It's going to crash, the only question is will it be totaled or repairable. Hopefully either will wake up the masses.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
That's exactly what happened Einstein. Too bad that you are too dense to realize it. The primary vote was so diluted by the shear number of candidates that no clear opponent could emerge. The RNC's fault. Completely.

And I'm not crowing. I don't like Trump. At all. But I hate HiLIARy. A lot.
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The party of "personal responsibilty"....blaming the party. Brilliant.
 
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