2016 Election Thread Part Deux

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UTCVol said:
Both of your examples are from elections with incumbents, with lesser known challengers (especially Clinton).

Trump is a known quantity and I'm not sure how he rehabilitates his image.
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Ronald Reagan was nationally known in 1980 and had been a national political figure since the 1960s. And he was losing to Carter by almost 30 points in January of that year.

Trump is a known quality with high negatives. There are no doubt more negatives to come out, especially after NBC releases the "Madness of Trump" documentary from BBC this Summer.

But Hillary Clinton is a known quality with high negatives herself. She has skeletons in her closet that will come out in full force. Trump will not let her slide by on those negatives as a Kasich would no doubt do. He will go on the attack. This is the one positive Trump brings to the table.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Using your logic, the Republican nomination should have been given to George H.W. Bush. Reagan was unelectable. Reagan was extreme. Reagan was mean.
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I will put it very simple. If Cankles wins I don't want to hear Trumpers *****. They created the problem. He is the only one on the GOP side who is an obvious loss.
 
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volfanhill said:
I will put it very simple. If Cankles wins I don't want to hear Trumpers *****. They created the problem. He is the only one on the GOP side who is an obvious loss.
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No, the Republican party created the problem a long time ago by continually running "reasonable, moderate" candidates who promptly sold out their electorate as soon as they took the oath of office. This is voter retribution - a long time in the making - Trump might or might not offer some representation, but the others sure won't.
 
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AM64 said:
No, the Republican party created the problem a long time ago by continually running "reasonable, moderate" candidates who promptly sold out their electorate as soon as they took the oath of office. This is voter retribution - a long time in the making - Trump might or might not offer some representation, but the others sure won't.
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exactly!
 
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volfanhill said:
I will put it very simple. If Cankles wins I don't want to hear Trumpers *****. They created the problem. He is the only one on the GOP side who is an obvious loss.
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And that would be entirely relevant if the election were held in the next week or so.

As for who created the problem, I put their pictures up on an earlier thread. When you believe in nothing, fight for nothing, and work towards little more than the consolidation of your power, then you make it easy for an outsider like Trump to win your party's nomination.
 
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Case in point...

Republicans Are Addicted to Increasing Federal Spending

Around every budgeting corner, Republican leaders see a false choice between the Democrats’ shutdown narrative or an increase in spending. Instead of acting as visionary leaders, Republicans have reduced themselves to the party that incessantly searches for a clever solution to each Democratic trap. The cost is steep; the party of fiscal discipline is now producing budgets full of runaway federal spending.
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Small wonder the establishment's choices for POTUS have been curb-stomped by the voters.
 
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Wow at Missouri.

GOP: Trump 40.8%, Cruz 40.7%
Dems: Clinton 49.6%, Sanders 49.4%

I bet Cruz regrets wasting resources in Ohio and Florida.
 
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volfanhill said:
I hope trump fans realize that they are giving Cankles the nomination
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Not a Trump fan but one thing everyone is forgetting is that Hillary has yet to feel the heat. She hasn't had to answer the tough questions, when asked she's been allowed to blow them off. Now Trump can go after her and I do look forward to their debates.
 
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hog88 said:
Not a Trump fan but one thing everyone is forgetting is that Hillary has yet to feel the heat. She hasn't had to answer the tough questions, when asked she's been allowed to blow them off. Now Trump can go after her and I do look forward to their debates.
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I don't, everyone is going to be dumber by listening to those two talk. It's so depressing that one of them is going to be our next POTUS. Here is hoping that 2020 can give us someone better (won't be hard.)
 
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Originally Posted by volfanhill:
I hope trump fans realize that they are giving Cankles the nomination
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I stopped underestimating Trump a few weeks ago. He is the toughest candidate to read that I can recall. In the general Trump will either win by a landslide or lose by one. He has a movement going on that continues to grow. If it continues he can't be beat.
 
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UTCVol said:
Wow at Missouri.

GOP: Trump 40.8%, Cruz 40.7%
Dems: Clinton 49.6%, Sanders 49.4%

I bet Cruz regrets wasting resources in Ohio and Florida.
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With what has been going on in that state lately it ought to get renamed "The Twilight Zone."
 
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Stoked said:
I don't, everyone is going to be dumber by listening to those two talk. It's so depressing that one of them is going to be our next POTUS. Here is hoping that 2020 can give us someone better (won't be hard.)
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It wont be getting any better. The job of POTUS is not attractive to anyone who could do better.
 
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