'19 CA QB JT Daniels (Georgia commit)

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PulaskiVolFan said:
So why moan about it all the time if you think JG is going to start out being the guy? As for the "lame duck toss ups", that's pure hyperbole. Regardless of how who or why it happened, JG was one of the best in the conference at completing downfield passes last season and with a better supporting cast there is no reason to think he won't continue to improve in that area.
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I cannot figure out your point on here. Our coaches are aggressively pursuing this guy, the fans are excited about him, and the national analysts are all saying he would be an immediate starter/upgrade. And you're just on here picking fights with everyone and telling them they're wrong. Why? Your words don't have any credibility so you're just being angry to be angry? Sounds exhausting.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Lol, do you guys know how the locker room works? We're already 5-7 kids above 85 so there are a bunch of cuts that have to be made to even get to a number where we can add him. Who are you going to cut out of the QB room? It's obviously not JG because he would have transferred if he thought he wasn't going to play.
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So you're saying we're not recruiting him?
 
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Smokeytom said:
So, the fumble at the goal line returned for 6, a play where if we score we pull within 1 score, instead we are down 3 scores with 8mins left and completely out of it - that play wasn’t as much of a “game changer” as a BS roughing the passer pentalty?!? You’re either trolling or dumb. Sorry. No nicer way to put it.
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You're dense if you think the penalty didn't have a bigger effect on the game. The penalty is why we were down 2 scores with 8 minutes to go instead of tied up midway through the 4th. You're most likely just dumb, sorry, no nicer way to put it.
 
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snowvols said:
Different time and different football. He actually had really good stats for that time and era. Tommy Maddox was a 1st rd pick and threw 33 tds and 30 ints in two seasons. He threw 16tds and 16 ints and went in the first round the same year as Kelly's SR year. Kelly was actually really good for that time and top 10 in almost every category.
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Andy Kelly didn’t throw for 400 billion yards in the Arena League, playing for like 20 years because he was the all time worst, that’s for sure
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I don't think there is any chance he is the starting QB in Knoxville if the football season is played this year.
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That's not the question. You said, "We're already 5-7 kids above 85 so there are a bunch of cuts that have to be made to even get to a number where we can add him. Who are you going to cut out of the QB room?" Which I took to mean you doubted we even pursue Danials because we don't have the room. Assuming we can and do take him no one knows if he plays for a variety of reasons - his health, the other QB's health, how other QB's progress,etc. Whether or not he plays is not really the question. The fact the coaching staff is pursuing Daniels says they don’t have confidence in who they already have in the QB room. Could Mauer or Bailey or someone else emerge and play SEC caliber football? Sure, but no one on the current roster has shown they can and the point of my original post is CJP and staff are going to keep looking until they get someone. With this OL and the defense they are building the future is now!
 
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Smokeytom said:
Is that your final point in this argument? Because I’m fine with that. I 100% will not be as excited for this season if JG wins the job. Better than lying to myself or being an idiot Jason Garrett type of clapper. We’re not winning 9 games with a QB who can’t throw a swing or screen pass.

And if what I think about JG is going to effect his play this fall, then he’s already doomed. It’s not going to change my fan hood. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - I’d love nothing more than for him to prove me wrong. As of this moment though, he is an awful QB who we have been winning in spite of and losing because of.
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Perfectly said.
 
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Look I have nothing against JG but the overwhelming opinion of people who do college football for a living is he is not very good relative to the other QB's in the SEC. I will say I don't know enough to make an independent assessment. However, here are some facts. 247 ranks JG 11th out of 14 projected starters. He’s only ahead of Seals at Vandy, Brennan at LSU and Robinson at Mizzou. What little we’ve seen of Seals is not very good. Brennan is apparently showing Coach O enough that LSU is not chasing JT Daniels despite having had great success with Burrows as a transfer. Robinson is an App State transfer if memory serves. JG is a redshirt senior – that’s 5 years in the program and he’s rated pre-season 11th out of 14. I hope JG proves us all wrong and breaks all Manning’s single season records and we go 15-0 and win the Natty behind his QB play. Heck, I would be delighted with a 9-3 regular season where none of us could say he cost us a win. Based on past performance it’s just unlikely. Ranking the SEC's starting quarterbacks in 2020
 
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1974Vol said:
Look I have nothing against JG but the overwhelming opinion of people who do college football for a living is he is not very good relative to the other QB's in the SEC. I will say I don't know enough to make an independent assessment. However, here are some facts. 247 ranks JG 11th out of 14 projected starters. He’s only ahead of Seals at Vandy, Brennan at LSU and Robinson at Mizzou. What little we’ve seen of Seals is not very good. Brennan is apparently showing Coach O enough that LSU is not chasing JT Daniels despite having had great success with Burrows as a transfer. Robinson is an App State transfer if memory serves. JG is a redshirt senior – that’s 5 years in the program and he’s rated pre-season 11th out of 14. I hope JG proves us all wrong and breaks all Manning’s single season records and we go 15-0 and win the Natty behind his QB play. Heck, I would be delighted with a 9-3 regular season where none of us could say he cost us a win. Based on past performance it’s just unlikely. Ranking the SEC's starting quarterbacks in 2020
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Robinson transferred in from TCU for what it's worth.
 
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Joe Dirt said:
I cannot figure out your point on here. Our coaches are aggressively pursuing this guy, the fans are excited about him, and the national analysts are all saying he would be an immediate starter/upgrade. And you're just on here picking fights with everyone and telling them they're wrong. Why? Your words don't have any credibility so you're just being angry to be angry? Sounds exhausting.
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I don’t think this staff does anything half speed but where are you getting “aggressively” from? Most I’ve seen is Hubbs on VQ implying conversations.
 
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butchna said:
I don’t think this staff does anything half speed but where are you getting “aggressively” from? Most I’ve seen is Hubbs on VQ implying conversations.
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I searched his mentions on Twitter over the weekend and saw several national people saying Tennessee was hot in pursuit. AP said the Vols were all in on JT. Josh Pate has also mentioned it several times that he has been told we are a huge factor. We may miss on him, but I don't think it will be for a lack of effort.
 
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1974Vol said:
Look I have nothing against JG but the overwhelming opinion of people who do college football for a living is he is not very good relative to the other QB's in the SEC. I will say I don't know enough to make an independent assessment. However, here are some facts. 247 ranks JG 11th out of 14 projected starters. He’s only ahead of Seals at Vandy, Brennan at LSU and Robinson at Mizzou. What little we’ve seen of Seals is not very good. Brennan is apparently showing Coach O enough that LSU is not chasing JT Daniels despite having had great success with Burrows as a transfer. Robinson is an App State transfer if memory serves. JG is a redshirt senior – that’s 5 years in the program and he’s rated pre-season 11th out of 14. I hope JG proves us all wrong and breaks all Manning’s single season records and we go 15-0 and win the Natty behind his QB play. Heck, I would be delighted with a 9-3 regular season where none of us could say he cost us a win. Based on past performance it’s just unlikely. Ranking the SEC's starting quarterbacks in 2020
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Brad Crawford is just a journalist fwiw, not an analyst or scout. 11th is wild when he just finished top half in all major efficiency stats. People forget how bad many other SEC qbs were. Vandy, uk, usce, miss st, ark all had far worse.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Now you change the goalposts. You're the one that said it said more about our other QBs was the reason JG keeps getting inserted. The sneak and fumble was a dumb play and he payed a heavy penalty for it but it wasn't anywhere near the game changer the roughing the passer penalty on Taylor turned out to be in that game.
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Didn't change the goalposts at all, you just didn't understand what I said.

True/redshirt freshmen (who may not be ready to play, or are not good enough to play) are not going to catch as much heat as a 4th yr Jr, who continues to make the same mistakes over and over and over again: terrible timing on throws; missed throws; no sense of pass rush and pocket collapse; 100 mph heaters on swing/screen passes; etc. Maurer and Shrout were not ready to play, or they're not good enough to play; and, I'm guessing the coaches see that JG is the better option over them.

Also, while an unbelievably massive play that affected the game, the DT personal foul call was nowhere near the "game changer" the fumble was. After the personal foul, we were STILL IN THE GAME; which made the fumble that much more huge, because the fumble was GAME OVER.

I have never bashed JG on here, because I love the kid. He's tough as nails, and loves being a Vol. And, I will continue to support him; but, that doesn't mean that I'm blind as a bat, though.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Bruin, slow down for a moment and just consider that you are calling Andy Kelly worse than JG. I just wanna make sure you know what you are saying.
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I’ve stated my case. The stats support my side and very much so mind you

my post was regarding you using the arena league as some kind of measuring stick which wasn’t your finest moment. The Garcia guy I posted was a bad college QB is the all time leading passer in that league so whatever point you were trying to make was a swing and a miss
 
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BruinVol said:
I’ve stated my case. The stats support my side and very much so mind you

my post was regarding you using the arena league as some kind of measuring stick which wasn’t your finest moment. The Garcia guy I posted was a bad college QB is the all time leading passer in that league so whatever point you were trying to make was a swing and a miss
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Are you basing your “bad college QB” summation on the full season he played where he posted a 139 QB rating on a bad team...or the second season where he played in only 5 games. If the latter, that’s just being contrarian and reaching for contrarian’s sake...not like you whatsoever. 😉
 
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butchna said:
Are you basing your “bad college QB” summation on the full season he played where he posted a 139 QB rating on a bad team...or the second season where he played in only 5 games. If the latter, that’s just being contrarian and reaching for contrarian’s sake...not like you whatsoever. 😉
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one he lost his job that second year and transferred.

And glad to hear someone say playing on a bad team might actually matter.
 
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