'16 GA LB Ja'Quain Blakely (UT commit 8/1/15)

Fahr Butch!

This won't be popular, but you really can't reasonably judge Butch's coaching or recruiting until his recruits have matured. Since his first year of recruiting was mostly reactionary, you can't really know until the '14 class are juniors. I vote that we have this discussion after the '16 season...And my money is on Butch having silenced his critics by then.
 
We also still have not won more than 7 games and were the favorites in most of those. We should wait until Butch wins 9 games before putting him on a pedestal.[/QUOTE

Different subject dude. This is about 3*'s not about putting CBJ on pedestal. Keep things in context please.
 
Are you for real!? The only real class we can judge this staff on based on game day performance is the 2014 class. Out of that class, there were 13 3*'s according to Rivals. 5 of those started at some point in time last year.

5.

True freshmen.

How can you seriously call the other 8 "failures" and imply this staff isn't doing a good job!?

I said in the very short time Butch has been here. Butch did recruit several 3* players for the 2013 class after he was hired. I never said or implied that Butch and staff were not doing a good job. I also never said anyone was a "failure". I was quoting another poster on the fact that in general every where there are more 3* players that never pan out then those that are true difference makers like Cam Sutton.
 
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Other than someone like a Cam Sutton (and even then, our CB depth was not good), 3 stars take some time to develop. Even a good 3 star takes a year or two to adjust to the game. With this being Butch's 3rd season, there hasn't been a whole lot of time yet. Even so, guys like Dobbs, Vickers, Robertson, Wolf, Owens, and Thomas are well on their way to make big contributions.

I agree and there is nothing wrong with 3* players even if they don't become elite type players they can still make solid contributions to a team.
 
I said in the very short time Butch has been here. Butch did recruit several 3* players for the 2013 class after he was hired. I never said or implied that Butch and staff were not doing a good job. I also never said anyone was a "failure". Sick of people that can't read and comprehend what they are reading and then just make sh** up that was never said in the first place. I was quoting another poster on the fact that in general everywhere there are more 3* players that never pan out then those that are true difference makers.


Not dogging you, but I read it the same way he did. May not be a comprehension thing at all, could just be that our brains did not read it the same way your brain thought it was being written. We can't read what words you were putting your inflections on.

Just a thought........or maybe I'm just stupid.
 
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Don't care about stars. Caliber of offers is a big thing. Florida and Michigan wanted this kid which are some nice offers. This isnt a project like Bruce either. Those guys don't even count against butch anyways. By using a blue shirt you get a longer evaluation period to look at fringe prospects like him. If blakely isn't good enough or looks questionable we'll upgrade like always. Kid looks very fast with a great frame to get bigger.
 
Not at all. Compared to previous classes, this one is very lackluster. I also understand that 25% or so of the kids committed right now won't sign with Tennessee.

So basically, "I want to bi+ch for no reason, even though I understand the class will look dramatically different in February."
 

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I said in the very short time Butch has been here. Butch did recruit several 3* players for the 2013 class after he was hired. I never said or implied that Butch and staff were not doing a good job. I also never said anyone was a "failure". Sick of people that can't read and comprehend what they are reading and then just make sh** up that was never said in the first place. I was quoting another poster on the fact that in general every where there are more 3* players that never pan out then those that are true difference makers like Cam Sutton.

Easy there.

How exactly am I or anyone else to take the statement "in the very short time Butch has been here there have been more 3* failures then successes"?
 
Not dogging you, but I read it the same way he did. May not be a comprehension thing at all, could just be that our brains did not read it the same way your brain thought it was being written. We can't read what words you were putting your inflections on.

Just a thought........or maybe I'm just stupid.

Yeah maybe so I edited my post. Thanks
 
Easy there.

How exactly am I or anyone else to take the statement "in the very short time Butch has been here there have been more 3* failures then successes"?

Alright I wasn't dogging Butch. Give me a break or just let this one slide. I worded my post badly.
 
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Look at it this way, Carlin Fils-Aime committed and every coach on staff tweeted about it. Blakley commits and nothing...

That must mean we definitely didn't want him since we accepted his commitment with Hart and Bituli as a tweener already on board in a small class. The fact we didn't tweet MUST say more than that
 
That must mean we definitely didn't want him since we accepted his commitment with Hart and Bituli as a tweener already on board in a small class. The fact we didn't tweet MUST say more than that

You might want to take a sabbatical and study the Twitter leaves...this newfangled world's gone and left us behind. :gone: I would do it...but I don't want to? :unsure:
 
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Look at it this way, Carlin Fils-Aime committed and every coach on staff tweeted about it. Blakley commits and nothing...

I noticed this too and don't think it should be overlooked. The staff never misses a chance pump up our class. I think we only take 2 LBs of the 3 we have "committed" right now.
 
Good thing fall camp starts in less than two days because you guys have way too much free time. Worrying bout stars, class numbers and tweets.
 
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