'16 AZ DE Jonathan Kongbo UT Signee 2/3/16

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MockingVol said:
Since the very beginning of this year's class, it has been looked at as a depth class. The reasons being that the instate talent took an uncharacteristic dip, we can't take a full class, and a lot of the higher ranked kids we are going after are wanting to wait till NSD to commit unlike previous years where they would either jump on board and help recruit or be taken off the board.

Now of course, you FF guys will come in here with weeping and gnashing of teeth and try to talk about these "new" and "terrible" revelations, but those of us that closely follow recruiting year round already knew these things. As early as May or June of this year, many posters had already come to the realization that this year's class would be between 15-8 nationally.

It's ok for us to take a non top 5 class every once in a while to be a depth class. This is especially true when we are so well set up for next year's class-- back to top 5.
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Get out of here with your facts!!!! Can't you see that everyone just wants to have a good old fashion meltdown?!?!?!

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LynxVol said:
CBJ does have some serious work to do in order to make this a good class. However, given the state of the current roster, obtaining a top 10 class this year is not essential, IMO. We needed to recruit certain positions well this cycle, and I think we are doing that. IMO, we still need to pick up quality at DT (preferably a HS DT), WR, and OL (specifically OT).
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Good post :good!:
 
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AV_12 said:
Our state has never been a strong recruiting ground. We have to be near perfect of the remaining top targets to be top 15
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I keep seeing people talk about a down instate year when really it has just been two really up years. Next year the upward trend continues, but this year is actually still strong compared to a lot of classes I've seen.
 
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butchna said:
Knew you'd be happy. :)
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Not happy at all... I want to see UT succeed which means by extension I want Jones to succeed.

Jones is behind the 8 ball more than he's been since arriving... even that first year. The first year he came in with a "plan" and knowing that time limited him. Now, it isn't time... players he wants are saying no to his pitch. He hasn't really faced that before at UT. This class which IS critical depends on the late breaking decisions. I'm sure he'd agree that you never want to be there.

Honestly, if he can't get some of those top tier players then I hope he holds scholarships like he did the first year rather than just filling them with bodies. Just admit "defeat", take some lumps, and fight again another day. If they can make a championship run this fall then extra scholarships might be handy to have.
 
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The problem with losing a top tier player like Kongbo is that these types of players usually tend to sign with our competition (AL, FLA, UGA, LSU, Etc.). I do not subscribe to the thinking that taking recruiting years off, like Butch Jones has done with this class, is acceptable. Highly rated players are signed EVERY recruiting cycle, meaning that if they do not sign with Tennessee, they will sign with our competition. This class must finish strong in order to make it salvagable IMO.
 
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UT_King said:
Knew you'd reply to his post. :)
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He wrote it to ME. :). I'm the leader of those waving away while a mediocre class happens. He's the Che Guevera revolutionary that's gonna demand that Butch starts recruiting! Brave internet warriors are the backbone of top programs. sjt will get us there...novel by novel. :good!:
 
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sjt18 said:
Not happy at all... I want to see UT succeed which means by extension I want Jones to succeed.

Jones is behind the 8 ball more than he's been since arriving... even that first year. The first year he came in with a "plan" and knowing that time limited him. Now, it isn't time... players he wants are saying no to his pitch. He hasn't really faced that before at UT. This class which IS critical depends on the late breaking decisions. I'm sure he'd agree that you never want to be there.

Honestly, if he can't get some of those top tier players then I hope he holds scholarships like he did the first year rather than just filling them with bodies. Just admit "defeat", take some lumps, and fight again another day. If they can make a championship run this fall then extra scholarships might be handy to have.
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Makes sense...no argument.
 
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lilesrt said:
The problem with losing a top tier player like Kongbo is that these types of players usually tend to sign with our competition (AL, FLA, UGA, LSU, Etc.). I do not subscribe to the thinking that taking recruiting years off, like Butch Jones has done with this class, is acceptable. Highly rated players are signed EVERY recruiting cycle, meaning that if they do not sign with Tennessee, they will sign with our competition. This class must finish strong in order to make it salvagable IMO.
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Agree..
 
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I see a bunch of excuses for why this class is a dumpster fire, but no mentions of all the advantages we have this year. USC, Mizzou, and Georgia all bringing in new coaches. Auburn is coming off 6 wins. Vandy in the toilet. It's pretty obvious, Butch took advantage of legacies, an unusual 2 years of in state talent, and the promise of early playing time. Why would you think the 2017 class will be any better. The top Tennessee recruit wants nothing to do with us and the 2nd best recruit isn't expected to sign with us either. Throw in Hunter Johnson actively recruiting against us and 18-25 should be expected again next year. This is the beginning of the end.
 
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Scottyhop said:
I see a bunch of excuses for why this class is a dumpster fire, but no mentions of all the advantages we have this year. USC, Mizzou, and Georgia all bringing in new coaches. Auburn is coming off 6 wins. Vandy in the toilet. It's pretty obvious, Butch took advantage of legacies, an unusual 2 years of in state talent, and the promise of early playing time. Why would you think the 2017 class will be any better. The top Tennessee recruit wants nothing to do with us and the 2nd best recruit isn't expected to sign with us either. Throw in Hunter Johnson actively recruiting against us and 18-25 should be expected again next year. This is the beginning of the end.
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I'm slitting my wrist as I type.:eek:
 
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Scottyhop said:
I see a bunch of excuses for why this class is a dumpster fire, but no mentions of all the advantages we have this year. USC, Mizzou, and Georgia all bringing in new coaches. Auburn is coming off 6 wins. Vandy in the toilet. It's pretty obvious, Butch took advantage of legacies, an unusual 2 years of in state talent, and the promise of early playing time. Why would you think the 2017 class will be any better. The top Tennessee recruit wants nothing to do with us and the 2nd best recruit isn't expected to sign with us either. Throw in Hunter Johnson actively recruiting against us and 18-25 should be expected again next year. This is the beginning of the end.
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You're lying!
 
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Nothing to see here boys. Just like 4 years ago when the Dooley defenders didn't care the classes sucked. You guys will all be out on Butch in 2 years. Enjoy your ignorance while you still can.
 
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Scottyhop said:
I see a bunch of excuses for why this class is a dumpster fire, but no mentions of all the advantages we have this year. USC, Mizzou, and Georgia all bringing in new coaches. Auburn is coming off 6 wins. Vandy in the toilet. It's pretty obvious, Butch took advantage of legacies, an unusual 2 years of in state talent, and the promise of early playing time. Why would you think the 2017 class will be any better. The top Tennessee recruit wants nothing to do with us and the 2nd best recruit isn't expected to sign with us either. Throw in Hunter Johnson actively recruiting against us and 18-25 should be expected again next year. This is the beginning of the end.
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Haha. Why even be a fan? I sometimes wonder how some of you guys make it.
 
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Scottyhop said:
I see a bunch of excuses for why this class is a dumpster fire, but no mentions of all the advantages we have this year. USC, Mizzou, and Georgia all bringing in new coaches. Auburn is coming off 6 wins. Vandy in the toilet. It's pretty obvious, Butch took advantage of legacies, an unusual 2 years of in state talent, and the promise of early playing time. Why would you think the 2017 class will be any better. The top Tennessee recruit wants nothing to do with us and the 2nd best recruit isn't expected to sign with us either. Throw in Hunter Johnson actively recruiting against us and 18-25 should be expected again next year. This is the beginning of the end.
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guessing you're not a 'glass half full' kinda guy
 
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Scottyhop said:
Nothing to see here boys. Just like 4 years ago when the Dooley defenders didn't care the classes sucked. You guys will all be out on Butch in 2 years. Enjoy your ignorance while you still can.
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Haha. Keep it up. Comparing Dooley to Butch? My goodness, bless your heart.
 
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