'15 VA OL Chance Hall (UT commit 7/3/14)

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InVOLuntary said:
What is bcbs? No surgery? What pills?
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Blue cross, yes surgery, pain pills. The 10 or so achilles repairs in Nashville today and tomorrow will be sent home in pain and with pills to knock them out. I've had the surgery and also used to distribute horse pericardium graft that was used in some achilles surgeries to wrap the tendon like a burrito to give it support while healing.
UT has electric stim, cold/compression, and trainers used to working with athletes, and acl's, rotator cuffs, achilles, etc are all pushed more postop than they used to be. Aggressive PT begins early.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
95% of foot and ankle specialist ortho surgeons can handle an achilles repair without issue. The main things are the tissue of the individual and the therapies a place like UT has that can help speed up the process. If he was basic bcbs achilles tear, patient gets a boot an pills.
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Do you think he will travel back to Knoxville often for therapy or will they find him someone close to home or a little of both?
 
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BigOrangeD said:
Do you think he will travel back to Knoxville often for therapy or will they find him someone close to home or a little of both?
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I don't know how that would work, in regards to his family's insurance or if he's covered by the schools/team's insurance, or if UT would do some things for them, or if those would be improper benefits since he hasn't signed his LOI yet.
At minimum, he will have better instructions and requirements for recovery, rather than just laying around like us normal patients do.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I don't know how that would work, in regards to his family's insurance or if he's covered by the schools/team's insurance, or if UT would do some things for them, or if those would be improper benefits since he hasn't signed his LOI yet.
At minimum, he will have better instructions and requirements for recovery, rather than just laying around like us normal patients do.
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Thanks. Maybe he could enroll early and get Therapy at UT but not sure if that is something the coaches want. I guess it would depend on if they believe he could contribute early.
 
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If He's just now having surgery he may not start physical therapy for a while. Sparty would know better than I but when I tore min ('10), I had surgery and was in a splint, foot elevated for 10 days, then in a cast with foot pointed as far down as possible for 5 weeks, then foot in a cast for another 5 weeks with the foot moved to 90 degrees, then a boot at 90 degrees for 4 weeks and every four weeks they would adjust the boot to allow for more movement. this went on for about 3-4 months. They din't start physical therapy until I was out of the boot. This was KOC. Since I have know others that have taken a much shorter path.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If He's just now having surgery he may not start physical therapy for a while. Sparty would know better than I but when I tore min ('10), I had surgery and was in a splint, foot elevated for 10 days, then in a cast with foot pointed as far down as possible for 5 weeks, then foot in a cast for another 5 weeks with the foot moved to 90 degrees, then a boot at 90 degrees for 4 weeks and every four weeks they would adjust the boot to allow for more movement. this went on for about 3-4 months. They din't start physical therapy until I was out of the boot. This was KOC. Since I have know others that have taken a much shorter path.
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Holy cow! I had no idea they had to do all of that. Yeah, I guess it would be a while before he could have physical therapy. Hearing that, I do not wish that on my worst enemy.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If He's just now having surgery he may not start physical therapy for a while. Sparty would know better than I but when I tore min ('10), I had surgery and was in a splint, foot elevated for 10 days, then in a cast with foot pointed as far down as possible for 5 weeks, then foot in a cast for another 5 weeks with the foot moved to 90 degrees, then a boot at 90 degrees for 4 weeks and every four weeks they would adjust the boot to allow for more movement. this went on for about 3-4 months. They din't start physical therapy until I was out of the boot. This was KOC. Since I have know others that have taken a much shorter path.
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The average is about 3-4 months. The problem is when you get out of the boot you pretty much have to learn to walk again, which I'm sure you know all to well. He won't do anything football related for 7-8 months, and by football related I mean anything other then walking and light weight lifting. It's a 1.5-2 year recover for most people. It's a terrible injury.
 
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keckjm said:
The average is about 3-4 months. The problem is when you get out of the boot you pretty much have to learn to walk again, which I'm sure you know all to well. He won't do anything football related for 7-8 months, and by football related I mean anything other then walking and light weight lifting. It's a 1.5-2 year recover for most people. It's a terrible injury.
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So he's a definite redshirt then. Hopefully he gets the best care and follows Dr's orders precisely.
 
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So, assuming Hall remains an EE, it sounds like he will get the vast majority of his therapy at UT. That would be good news.
 
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inV, things have changed a little with soft tissue surgeries. Used to on Rotator Cuff, they would be immobile and in a splint for 2-4 weeks before therapy. Now, they are often doing therapy the next day. Same thing for ACL's. My first one, they kept me stiff and braced with no therapy for awhile. Now they start them on movement machines quicker, but no weight bearing. Old ortho guidelines for bones and soft tissue led docs to cast or splint and many allowed for no motion as they thought that was best for healing, but with technology and less invasive surgeries (acl's can be fixes thru portal holes rather than slicing the knee on both sides and taking down quad muscle), young athletes are often put into various therapies and movements quicker than you or I would be.
 
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I'm also meeting with the TDOL next Friday to try and get some of these antiquated ortho guidelines updated for patient care. Wish me luck. It could benefit a lot of patients in the state and help people heal faster by getting the therapies they need quickly after surgery.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If He's just now having surgery he may not start physical therapy for a while. Sparty would know better than I but when I tore min ('10), I had surgery and was in a splint, foot elevated for 10 days, then in a cast with foot pointed as far down as possible for 5 weeks, then foot in a cast for another 5 weeks with the foot moved to 90 degrees, then a boot at 90 degrees for 4 weeks and every four weeks they would adjust the boot to allow for more movement. this went on for about 3-4 months. They din't start physical therapy until I was out of the boot. This was KOC. Since I have know others that have taken a much shorter path.
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Mine was in a cast a week after surgery, adjust every 2 weeks, out in 6. Walking without help 5 days later. No therapy. Complete tear, but the tendon tore into, not pulled from the bone.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
inV, things have changed a little with soft tissue surgeries. Used to on Rotator Cuff, they would be immobile and in a splint for 2-4 weeks before therapy. Now, they are often doing therapy the next day. Same thing for ACL's. My first one, they kept me stiff and braced with no therapy for awhile. Now they start them on movement machines quicker, but no weight bearing. Old ortho guidelines for bones and soft tissue led docs to cast or splint and many allowed for no motion as they thought that was best for healing, but with technology and less invasive surgeries (acl's can be fixes thru portal holes rather than slicing the knee on both sides and taking down quad muscle), young athletes are often put into various therapies and movements quicker than you or I would be.
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I guess that sounds better. Glad I never had to deal with one of those. Brutal.
 
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keckjm said:
The average is about 3-4 months. The problem is when you get out of the boot you pretty much have to learn to walk again, which I'm sure you know all to well. He won't do anything football related for 7-8 months, and by football related I mean anything other then walking and light weight lifting. It's a 1.5-2 year recover for most people. It's a terrible injury.
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I was completely recovered in just under a year. But for the scar tissue rubbing my tennis shoe when I wear no shows I would never know the difference. The kid is 17 and he should be a full go around 1 year from the time of surgery. I was informed that when 1 pops the other one has about a 20% higher chance of doing the same. The 1st 3 months is pure hell.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
inV, things have changed a little with soft tissue surgeries. Used to on Rotator Cuff, they would be immobile and in a splint for 2-4 weeks before therapy. Now, they are often doing therapy the next day. Same thing for ACL's. My first one, they kept me stiff and braced with no therapy for awhile. Now they start them on movement machines quicker, but no weight bearing. Old ortho guidelines for bones and soft tissue led docs to cast or splint and many allowed for no motion as they thought that was best for healing, but with technology and less invasive surgeries (acl's can be fixes thru portal holes rather than slicing the knee on both sides and taking down quad muscle), young athletes are often put into various therapies and movements quicker than you or I would be.
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I had a customer tear his. Saw him two weeks after surgery and he was walking in a boot. I told him about my experience and he couldn't believe it. He never went in a cast. He's an old fart too!
 
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Spartacavolus said:
inV, things have changed a little with soft tissue surgeries. Used to on Rotator Cuff, they would be immobile and in a splint for 2-4 weeks before therapy. Now, they are often doing therapy the next day. Same thing for ACL's. My first one, they kept me stiff and braced with no therapy for awhile. Now they start them on movement machines quicker, but no weight bearing. Old ortho guidelines for bones and soft tissue led docs to cast or splint and many allowed for no motion as they thought that was best for healing, but with technology and less invasive surgeries (acl's can be fixes thru portal holes rather than slicing the knee on both sides and taking down quad muscle), young athletes are often put into various therapies and movements quicker than you or I would be.
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I had rotator cuff surgery last November at Knox Orthopedic Surgeons and was in therapy the following day. I am just now able to have what is called full flexibility and still lack some strength.
 
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Glad to hear Chance has a successful surgery. Hopefully rehab goes well. I'd say he would redshirt regardless of the injury hopefully he can battle for a spot in 2016.
 
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Chance Hall ‏@Chance_A_Hall

First day off crutches! Gonna work my ass off so I can run through the T with my boys next year 🙌🍊 #GBO
 
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RS all the way. Should be anyway as an O-lineman, IMO. Good luck to him and his recovery.
 
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Vols4us said:
RS all the way. Should be anyway as an O-lineman, IMO. Good luck to him and his recovery.
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Agreed. I hope all of our current OL commits get to. There is no reason they shouldn't with everyone we have returning. OL need to redshirt. Hall definitely needs to. I think he has a lot of potential.
 
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That is great news things are going well for Hall. Even though I hope he redshirts, running through the T will be special.
 
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Ethan Hooper said:
Agreed. I hope all of our current OL commits get to. There is no reason they shouldn't with everyone we have returning. OL need to redshirt. Hall definitely needs to. I think he has a lot of potential.
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SO to Ethan Hooper. I've got lots of family in Lawrenceburg/ Ethridge. Hopefully, I'll be down your way next summer.
 
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People are writing him off because of his injury but if he recovers fully he could be our answer at LT. Talking heads were comparing him to Richmond before the injury.
 
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