'15 TN TE Kyle Oliver (UT Signee 2/4/15)

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Darth_Shiveman said:
It can stay in your system a lot longer if you're a daily smoker. But there are also a lot of factors like body fat, exercise, and level of hydration that can factor in too.
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Hence my caveat, "depending on frequency of usage". If he failed 3 urine tests? :hmm:
 
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Don't really care if VN questions the information or not. That comes straight from the mouth of a current UT player.

And yes, it is very possible to fail 3 drug test in 6 weeks or less. Once a college football player fails an initial drug test, they are tested very often after that. I would know. But by all means, continue arguing amongst yourselves.
 
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flowd82 said:
Don't really care if VN questions the information or not. That comes straight from the mouth of a current UT player.

And yes, it is very possible to fail 3 drug test in 6 weeks or less. Once a college football player fails an initial drug test, they are tested very often after that. As a former player, I would know. But by all means, continue arguing amongst yourselves about issues that most of you know nothing about.
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Defensive much? Jeeze I was just asking a question.
 
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austin_vol said:
Care to share some of these lovely quotes?
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Pretty redundant. Claiming that Butch lied to the kid. Used a fundraiser to get Oliver to commit bringing Mosley with him in the same class, even though Mosley committed a year before Oliver. Claims there are major infractions going on within the program. Skates over the 3 failed drug tests. Just a bunch of nonsense as it usually is with him. I'm just enjoying watching him get smacked around.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Pretty redundant. Claiming that Butch lied to the kid. Used a fundraiser to get Oliver to commit bringing Mosley with him in the same class, even though Mosley committed a year before Oliver. Claims there are major infractions going on within the program. Skates over the 3 failed drug tests. Just a bunch of nonsense as it usually is with him. I'm just enjoying watching him get smacked around.
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Who's him?
 
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sanddune50 said:
Pretty redundant. Claiming that Butch lied to the kid. Used a fundraiser to get Oliver to commit bringing Mosley with him in the same class, even though Mosley committed a year before Oliver. Claims there are major infractions going on within the program. Skates over the 3 failed drug tests. Just a bunch of nonsense as it usually is with him. I'm just enjoying watching him get smacked around.
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Lmao whoever it is an idiot. As you said Moseley was the class before and had no ties to each other before hand. We wouldn't have to get dirty to get a kid to blueshirt. Smh. That has to be Byron talking about infractions and slinging mud
 
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flowd82 said:
Don't really care if VN questions the information or not. That comes straight from the mouth of a current UT player.

And yes, it is very possible to fail 3 drug test in 6 weeks or less. Once a college football player fails an initial drug test, they are tested very often after that. I would know. But by all means, continue arguing amongst yourselves.
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:worship:
 
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flowd82 said:
Don't really care if VN questions the information or not. That comes straight from the mouth of a current UT player.

And yes, it is very possible to fail 3 drug test in 6 weeks or less. Once a college football player fails an initial drug test, they are tested very often after that. I would know. But by all means, continue arguing amongst yourselves.
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Don't get all sensitive man...I was arguing your point...get snippy and I'll take a dive! :aggressive:
 
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flowd82 said:
Don't really care if VN questions the information or not. That comes straight from the mouth of a current UT player.

And yes, it is very possible to fail 3 drug test in 6 weeks or less. Once a college football player fails an initial drug test, they are tested very often after that. I would know. But by all means, continue arguing amongst yourselves.
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Don't come in here acting like u the only one that's played D1 and you must be correct...
 
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You have to be a real dumbass to fail three piss tests. Especially since you're told far in advance when they'll be happening. And, these guys are SEC athletes. They're working out and drinking a gallon or more of water every day, which means the compounds that would stay in an ordinary person for two or three weeks cycle out of them in a week or less.

Failing three in a row is a sign of active, apathetic noncompliance with the policy. That attitude is probably what got him canned.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
You have to be a real dumbass to fail three piss tests. Especially since you're told far in advance when they'll be happening. And, these guys are SEC athletes. They're working out and drinking a gallon or more of water every day, which means the compounds that would stay in an ordinary person for two or three weeks cycle out of them in a week or less.

Failing three in a row is a sign of active, apathetic noncompliance with the policy. That attitude is probably what got him canned.
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Such a true and sobering....fact, uh observation...
 
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Pacer92 said:
Don't come in here acting like u the only one that's played D1 and you must be correct...
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I didn't act like that at all. My goodness, reading comprehension is a real issue on VN.

Let me make this clear for you. I was told this information by a current Tennessee football player. I also am close friends with an Oakland High football coach who reinforced what I was initially told.

So TIFWIW. I don't really care. Later rednecks.
 
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I was one who "questioned" Oliver spot when he committed. Just from conversations I had with some parents at OHS.

With that being said, I can't help but feel bad for this kid. I would absolutely hate for someone to post every dumb thing I did as an 18 year old or everything my 16 year old does.

I know, at some point these "kids" need to grow up. I just hope for Oliver's sake, he will land in a good situation.

Good luck Kyle.
 
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flowd82 said:
I didn't act like that at all. My goodness, reading comprehension is a real issue on VN.

Let me make this clear for you. I was told this information by a current Tennessee football player. I also am close friends with an Oakland High football coach who reinforced what I was initially told.

So TIFWIW. I don't really care. Later rednecks.
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Don't know why anyone would bring heat to flowd, he is legit. No need to question his stats.
 
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Mike4Vols said:
I don't blame him for getting defensive. You guys openly questioned his statement.
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All I did was ask if we really test that frequently. I was genuinely curious about the procedure. Didn't mean to offend. I mistakenly thought he was getting pissy at me for asking that question. I never insinuated or meant to insinuate that he didn't know what he was talking about or was making anything up.

I've got no beef with Flowd and appreciate what he brings to the board.
 
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volatil said:
I was one who "questioned" Oliver spot when he committed. Just from conversations I had with some parents at OHS.

With that being said, I can't help but feel bad for this kid. I would absolutely hate for someone to post every dumb thing I did as an 18 year old or everything my 16 year old does.

I know, at some point these "kids" need to grow up. I just hope for Oliver's sake, he will land in a good situation.

Good luck Kyle.
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I know you aren't making excuses for him, and I agree with your point that it would suck to be an 18 year old with every mistake I committed made public.

The fact of the matter is though that these kids signed away any opportunity for a "real", "true" college life when they accepted the opportunity to be a scholarship football player at a major university (yes, I know he was a blue shirt, trying to make a larger point).

They don't get to be "kids", really
They don't get to "live and learn"
The standard for them is much higher

And I don't have a problem with it.

They're each afforded $100,000's in tuition, room & board, food, medical attention & care, personal training, gear, etc...

If they can't keep their nose clean, we'll find some who can.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I know you aren't making excuses for him, and I agree with your point that it would suck to be an 18 year old with every mistake I committed made public.

The fact of the matter is though that these kids signed away any opportunity for a "real", "true" college life when they accepted the opportunity to be a scholarship football player at a major university (yes, I know he was a blue shirt, trying to make a larger point).

They don't get to be "kids", really
They don't get to "live and learn"
The standard for them is much higher

And I don't have a problem with it.

They're each afforded $100,000's in tuition, room & board, food, medical attention & care, personal training, gear, etc...

If they can't keep their nose clean, we'll find some who can.
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It is frustrating to see someone with talent throw away a huge opportunity (as you mentioned). Maybe he will learn and grow as a person from this.
 
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volatil said:
It is frustrating to see someone with talent throw away a huge opportunity (as you mentioned). Maybe he will learn and grow as a person from this.
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Agreed.

It's unfortunate, in many ways, that these tremendous opportunities are presented before many are mature enough to take advantage of them.
 
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