'15 NC RB Rocky Reid (Wake Forest commit)

[Smokey49]

The star gazing in this thread makes me sick. Rocky is a straight up beast. You think Butch would have taken his commitment if he wasn't?

Those guys are either trolls or don't know what they're talking about, anyway. Don't be upset, will make for fun bump fodder later.

 

[The Breakerboy]

I'm not. I'm expecting him to get around 50 carries this year. Lane will get around 200. Hurd/Scott/Pickett will split around 150 other carries. It'll be kinda close to that.

It would be borderline idiotic to take 5 backs in two years.

How is it idiotic when we don't have a proven back on the roster? Also besides the three we took what other backs do you have confidence in? Those other kids aren't good. We have nothing on campus as of now besides Lane and Hurd. I wish we could take 3 more backs this year. We need to sure up that position.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Basalt and the whole Roaring Fork valley is growing at a very fast pace. I actually just recently moved back to Memphis after living there 17 years. How old are you?

46 . I lived there in the early 80's. Very small when I was there. Loved hanging out where the Frying Pan and Roaring Fork meet.

 

[TriedAndTrueVOL]

How is it idiotic when we don't have a proven back on the roster? Also besides the three we took what other backs do you have confidence in? Those other kids aren't good. We have nothing on campus as of now besides Lane and Hurd. I wish we could take 3 more backs this year. We need to sure up that position.

Agree 100% here...no SEC depth at the RB position...

 

[Brillovol]

Senseless argument? You and everyone else destroying me would be happier and much more satisfied if this kid was a 5 star. And you would also be much happier if we signed Love and Swinney, for example, instead of Reid. Or am I wrong? I like to pull up the commit list for UT on the sites and see 4 and 5s not 3s. It looks better and makes our team better.

This is the most asinine statement about stars I've ever heard. So just because a rating system has a player listed as a 3*, our team quality goes down? Riiiiiiight.

 

[SCvol333]

We aren't sitting in high school parking lots handing out scholarships to 3 stars just so we can fill up our class. Get real. This ain't the Dooley years.

I think this is important - when you look at how this class is being built and how the last class was built we didnt miss on a ton of elite guys and then have to fill out the class with 3 stars noone else wanted

they were/are 3 stars that CBJ targeted - spent a lot of time on, ID'd early in the process, then closed on

that leads me to believe the recruit fits a certain profile that makes it likely for him to be a good system fit or that the services are just a little behind on evaluating the prospect

either could be true and either could make him a 4-5 start type player in this system

 

[nicksjuzunk]

I can get the 3 * argument, but it's too early to be pulling this card. Of course, a higher rating means that a player a player has a perceived higher performance level, but my problem with this argument is it is April. The ratings services will continue to fiddle and evaluate, and players still have their entire senior seasons, camps, and all-star games. If a player bombs their senior season, sure, bring something to the table.

As for now, the kid has done nothing but perform, the coaches are happy to have him, and at least one recruiting service has said he is in line for a favorable ratings bump.

 

[Volintears1995]

This kid is the work-horse kind of RB you need in the SEC. He's gonna give you the same product game in and game out. I see this guy being our grind it out, wear em out, run em over 4th quarter back.

I love this pick up. I could care less about "stars". Sutton, Vereen, and Randolph were all 3 stars and they're staples of our defense. I love forward to seeing this guy in the backfield.

 

[LaagerVol]

Measurables and level of competition most likely. IMO We don't need to be wasting our time recruiting running backs that run a 4.7 forty unless we plan on converting him to full back or linebacker.

This is one of those statements that gets me every time. First of all, like another poster said, it IS possible and likely for a 16-17 yr old kid to get faster so if 4.7 turns into 4.5, that's pretty fast for a RB. Most people seem to believe that ALL god RBs run a 4.3 or 4.4 and that just isn't the case. Look at the NFL combine results. Also, the NFL ALL TIME rushing leader ran a 4.7 at the combine. I guess you would have switched him to FB. Glad you're not our coach. I'm not saying this kid is Emmitt Smith, but it's just a little silly to say he isn't capable of being a good RB because he "only" runs a 4.7 at 17 yrs old.

 

[AV_12]

People that worry about 40 times for a RB over instincts and natural ability always make me laugh. There is a reason they can come in a play immediately.. You either have the natural ability or you don't..

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

This kid is the work-horse kind of RB you need in the SEC. He's gonna give you the same product game in and game out. I see this guy being our grind it out, wear em out, run em over 4th quarter back.

I love this pick up. I could care less about "stars". Sutton, Vereen, and Randolph were all 3 stars and they're staples of our defense. I love forward to seeing this guy in the backfield.

Amen brother

 

[38401]

Running backs are all built for different purposes, some are punishers some are scat backs and some are a mixture of both. Those are the truly special ones. I see him as a guy is a 3rd and 4th quarter guy that comes in to just punish the defense For the scat backs.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Measurables and level of competition most likely. IMO We don't need to be wasting our time recruiting running backs that run a 4.7 forty unless we plan on converting him to full back or linebacker.

I had no clue that power backs all run 4.5 and under. Who needs to win at line of scrimmage.. Not us accdg to this guy

 

[OddFuture]

There's a big difference in Butch's 3*'s and Dooley's 3*'s. Dooley was fighting off Houston and Kansas, while Butch is fighting off Wisconsin and Arkansas. Not saying this is the norm for all of our 3*'s we sign because it's not like that. I mentioned before I really wanted the new staff to keep 3* OL Dan Skipper but they didn't and he started at G for a pretty good Arkansas OL as a frosh and he was a Dooley recruit, but if you look at last class specifically and the class before you see these 3* guys Butch took already starting or in serious roles like Sutton, Vereen, Smith, Weisman, Swafford (walkon), Moseley, Thomas, Wolf, etc. If those were our "low rated 3*'s" then just wait until we get the other guys going too. North will be much improved and IMO would've been a 5* barring injury, Hurd is looking sharp as is Malone, Payne is pushing Coleman for nickel etc etc.

All in all my argument is stars aren't everything, and in each case they mean different things. There's always 3*'s I like better than 4* guys and it obviously works the other way too. Recruiting isn't a science, say we didn't take Rocky here and we ended up with just one RB later that could've even been a backup option because we slow played him. You just never know. I just wouldn't say a kid can't be awesome because of being a 3*. Just wait on it

 

[Vawlz]

IMO this kid is a "Cincinatti" level recruit. Not an SEC level RB.

The most telling part is that if a recruiting service added an arbitrary fourth star, you'd be falling over yourself to pat the coaches on the back. :birgits_giggle:

I'll defer to a coaching staff that has given me little reason to question their recruiting prowess.

 

[OddFuture]

FWIW, I don't know how many times Cincy beat out Wisconsin for a RB. I'm guessing not many.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Sorry I'm late.

BOOM!!!!!

 

[Madkins8]

Measurables and level of competition most likely. IMO We don't need to be wasting our time recruiting running backs that run a 4.7 forty unless we plan on converting him to full back or linebacker.

Do you know how many running backs run slower than a 4.60 at the Combine?

Alfred Blue
Jeremy Hill
Carlos Hyde
Silas Redd
David Fluellen

just to name a few in the 2014 draft.

 

[LotteryPick]

Do you know how many running backs run slower than a 4.60 at the Combine?

Alfred Blue
Jeremy Hill
Carlos Hyde
Silas Redd
David Fluellen

just to name a few in the 2014 draft.

Montee Ball too.

 

[TriedAndTrueVOL]

There's a big difference in Butch's 3*'s and Dooley's 3*'s. Dooley was fighting off Houston and Kansas, while Butch is fighting off Wisconsin and Arkansas. Not saying this is the norm for all of our 3*'s we sign because it's not like that. I mentioned before I really wanted the new staff to keep 3* OL Dan Skipper but they didn't and he started at G for a pretty good Arkansas OL as a frosh and he was a Dooley recruit, but if you look at last class specifically and the class before you see these 3* guys Butch took already starting or in serious roles like Sutton, Vereen, Smith, Weisman, Swafford (walkon), Moseley, Thomas, Wolf, etc. If those were our "low rated 3*'s" then just wait until we get the other guys going too. North will be much improved and IMO would've been a 5* barring injury, Hurd is looking sharp as is Malone, Payne is pushing Coleman for nickel etc etc.

All in all my argument is stars aren't everything, and in each case they mean different things. There's always 3*'s I like better than 4* guys and it obviously works the other way too. Recruiting isn't a science, say we didn't take Rocky here and we ended up with just one RB later that could've even been a backup option because we slow played him. You just never know. I just wouldn't say a kid can't be awesome because of being a 3*. Just wait on it

I agree with all of this. Very good points...

 

[Nashvegas31]

What is funny is this is a mute point about stars because Ryan Bartow on 247 who covers Carolinas has already said he is likely to be a 4 star before NSD. We just have two impatient football forum guys that don't understand recruiting and that a 4 star today could be a 2 star but nSD and vice versa. Malone wasn't a 5 star at this point last year. Gurley wasn't. Chris jones DE beast at MS St was a 3 star unknown at this point that became a 5 star.

 

[OddFuture]

What is funny is this is a mute point about stars because Ryan Bartow on 247 who covers Carolinas has already said he is likely to be a 4 star before NSD. We just have two impatient football forum guys that don't understand recruiting and that a 4 star today could be a 2 star but nSD and vice versa. Malone wasn't a 5 star at this point last year. Gurley wasn't. Chris jones DE beast at MS St was a 3 star unknown at this point that became a 5 star.

I agree. At the very least I see a high 3* rating like Paulk even though he got hurt.

 

[ACvol3]

Umm have u all even seen his junior highlights? They are ridiculous... I don't think the highschool Gurley comparisons are that far off.. He's a bull, and is still faster than everyone else on the field. Great cuts, and doesn't stop or give up on a play.

I absolutely love this pick up from what I've seen so far.. This guy is an easy 4*.

 

[ACvol3]

3100 yards and 40 touchdowns??? 6'1 210lbs as a junior.. This guy is about to blow up.

 

[BaldBiker]

Don't care if anyone else likes this cat or not. I watched his film and I like him. Great pick up by the staff.

Welcome Rocky.