'15 JUCO RB Alvin Kamara (UT commit 6/21/14)

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TideWarrior said:
Exactly the only reason the incoming standards are higher now is because of the number of people applying to schools. It is just a way to reduce the number of applications they receive they do not want to filter through. I work for a university and I continue to hear how the quality of the students today have gone backwards with the new higher standards. The problem today starts with standardized testing that HS spend some much time prepping students to beat and receive higher scores. I never spent the time on SAT practicing as they do today and still my scores are higher than most today. Not to mention the correlation with the amount of money schools receive based on test scores.

Studies have shown students spend less time on subject matter now then before because time spent learning how to be a test.

Also if a degree today was so much more valuable than why are so many coming out can not find a job or take it from someone who has been there for 10 plus years.
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A lot of truth in this. My daughter did no prep and took ACT this summer after her sophomore year. She has a 4.0 and scored a 28. She is smart but the job market is going to be tough in her future. I do not think a college degree is worth as much as in the past because so many more are able to obtain a degree with the various available financial assistance. It is more what a high school degree used to be worth forty years ago.
I have felt when hiring that an undergrad degree showed you could start something and finish it. Real talent will show up when you get out in the workplace and have to perform your job.
 
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Is this guy actually transferring or can this thread die yet? I can't even tell what in this thread is about him and what isn't.
 
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kyoon2 said:
Actually, the scores are important because someone from nowhere high school can get a 4.0 whereas someone from a prep school or a more competitive school can have a 3.5, yet be much smarter. At least that's the assumption, therefore, the colleges wanting to give the kid from a nowhere school a shot, ask that he takes standardized tests. Students spend less on subject matter because most of the kids don't need to spend time due to no student left behind and such. The incoming standards are higher because more kids want to go to college, and therefore, is becoming more competitive, not to filter out.

I think you are having trouble distinguishing cause from correlation. But, what do I know?
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Apparently not much because I know for a fact it is used for a filter. No different with people coming out with BS or BA degrees. I know companies that I still consult with could care less what their GPA or class rank in college. They receive over 1000 applications for an entry level job and they 1st filter out people who do not have a masters without looking at anything else.

Also like the backtracking. Yes more students are applying but the difference you fail to understand is the competition to get in is based on quantity as the driver not quality. But what do I know since I have worked with a major university and their admissions office.
 
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kyoon2 said:
lol, not really angry at all. just having fun watching y'all make these terrible arguments and assumptions without any evidence.
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You mean like yours that your degree holds more value without any evidence. Or that you assume because schools are requiring higher standards means college is harder now. Where is your evidence. Oh I forgot in your mind you seem to think you are right. But everything you have posted has only been your assumption without any data to support your opinion.

Curious what is your degree and what is your occupation if you do not mind me asking.
 
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TideWarrior said:
Apparently not much because I know for a fact it is used for a filter. No different with people coming out with BS or BA degrees. I know companies that I still consult with could care less what their GPA or class rank in college. They receive over 1000 applications for an entry level job and they 1st filter out people who do not have a masters without looking at anything else.

Also like the backtracking. Yes more students are applying but the difference you fail to understand is the competition to get in is based on quantity as the driver not quality. But what do I know since I have worked with a major university and their admissions office.
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TW knows of what he speaks here. Go get that Masters degree, it matters.

Signed,
UT MBA '09
:)
 
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Geeze, I come on here to see what is going on with this kid and I leave somewhat agreeing with tide warrior. Is the world ending?

But seriously, do we know anything on kamara?
 
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What I take from this thread is people are now realizing what I realized last night the kyoon2 character can't stay on a central theme with whatever point he is trying to make. And a poster that shall remain nameless worries an awful lot about me to supposedly have me on ignore. Both of which would be laughed at for their behavior in the real world. Hopefully, both will grow up and educate themselves on topics in the future before trying to discuss them.
 
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kyoon2 said:
lol, not really angry at all. just having fun watching y'all make these terrible arguments and assumptions without any evidence.
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Says the guy who got loads of answers and evidence but provided none to support his erratic argument.
 
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kyoon2 said:
I know because I was an officer of the chancellor's honors program until this year.
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I'm calling BS. I know several people who are (or aren't, for that matter) in the honor's college and scored a 30 or better.

Also, if you had the position you claim, you'd care more about grammar and logic. You've shown a complete lack of and/or disregard for both. I would imagine someone of the position you're (anonymously on the Internet) claiming would have more sense than to make an ass of himself/herself on Volnation.

My best guess is that you're a Vandy/Bama troll who didn't go to college and made an 18 on your ACT.
 
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TideWarrior said:
Apparently not much because I know for a fact it is used for a filter. No different with people coming out with BS or BA degrees. I know companies that I still consult with could care less what their GPA or class rank in college. They receive over 1000 applications for an entry level job and they 1st filter out people who do not have a masters without looking at anything else.

Also like the backtracking. Yes more students are applying but the difference you fail to understand is the competition to get in is based on quantity as the driver not quality. But what do I know since I have worked with a major university and their admissions office.
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You already know this, but you are dealing with a self appointed analytical theorist with contrarian and narcissistic tendencies. At least when he is using his fingers on a keyboard that is. He may be somebody else when his mom walks in his room.
 
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kyoon2 said:
LOL. I am the tool. You are losing your cool against a kid half your age on the internet. Again, I don't think you understand how to use the word "tool." No offense, but I highly doubt that your daughter got anywhere close to a 4.0 or a 30. Those numbers are good enough to get kids into the honors college with a lot of money. I know because I just graduated from UT. Even most of the kids in the honors college do not have a 30 or are barely above it. I know because I was an officer of the chancellor's honors program until this year.
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Lived in Melrose in 07. Graduated summa cum laude from chancellors honor program with bs in 11. Masters the following year. Ya I'm calling this one out. Practically every honors kid at UT has a 31+ ACT

OK I'm done. I think.
 
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TideWarrior said:
You mean like yours that your degree holds more value without any evidence. Or that you assume because schools are requiring higher standards means college is harder now. Where is your evidence. Oh I forgot in your mind you seem to think you are right. But everything you have posted has only been your assumption without any data to support your opinion.

Curious what is your degree and what is your occupation if you do not mind me asking.
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never said my degree holds more value, never said college was harder. You made those assumptions for me.
 
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TideWarrior said:
Apparently not much because I know for a fact it is used for a filter. No different with people coming out with BS or BA degrees. I know companies that I still consult with could care less what their GPA or class rank in college. They receive over 1000 applications for an entry level job and they 1st filter out people who do not have a masters without looking at anything else.

Also like the backtracking. Yes more students are applying but the difference you fail to understand is the competition to get in is based on quantity as the driver not quality. But what do I know since I have worked with a major university and their admissions office.
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You were talking about college admissions when you said:
Exactly the only reason the incoming standards are higher now is because of the number of people applying to schools. It is just a way to reduce the number of applications they receive they do not want to filter through.

Not regarding employment.
 
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kyoon2 said:
never said my degree holds more value, never said college was harder. You made those assumptions for me.
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Why don't you and Tide exchange numbers so this thread can get back to what it's about and lurkers like myself don't have to post.
 
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