'15 JUCO RB Alvin Kamara (UT commit 6/21/14)

[BaldBiker]

well dang.... i thought u loved me? lol:birgits_giggle:


and I've been telling y'all all along... KIDS Parents coaches from the university and high schools read all of the boards and advise accordingly.

I'm a little different because I like to judge folks for myself, BUT much of what was said about Jason gave me a certain type of feeling about how receptive you guys were to his recruitment and what it would mean for him to come here. It definitely had a factor.

I used to read other boards, and I'd flip out on them too before they knew who I was. Some fanbases who played the fence with Croomsters offer......"bashed" him... I tuned out..... With Vnation.... I luv y'all from the beginning. always had been excited about him coming.; and always cared about his recovery. It absolutely does matter what's being said about our children here.

At the end of the day.... he's just a player for you, but that's my child.

You know I love you sweetie.

But no. I don't wake up every morning and run to see if you've posted. Too old and set in my own way for that silliness.

As to the way these young men are talked about on this board. I'm surprised I haven't been banned for the way I go after the people that spew their garbage. As I said before, there is a way to be negative in a constructive way, as opposed to just being rude and spewing garbage. If a person does not know the difference in the two they should not post at all.

Oh yeah......glad to see you posting again hon.

 

[BaldBiker]

I have never seen any site that will not allow a rival fan to post especially a pay site. Money is money very simple. And every free site, even UA sites have many rival posters on there. Yes most sites will ban for hard trolling but most would ban their own fans for some of the things said on this site.

And to those that think trolling on here is bad spend a day on the Rant.

I only know of one site where there is no trolling or what some would say is inappropiate posting. Crimson Country Club only excepts new members via an invitation by a current member and then they have to be approved by a board. Also it requires every poster to post by their real name and have a profile of who they are. I am sure there may be others like it.

Personally. I don't have a problem with other teams fans coming on here.

Never have.....as long as they ARE NOT doing it hiding behind a UT fan name. There is only one reason to assume a fan name of another team.

My opinion....if you don't have the nads to go into another teams fansite flying your own teams colors you should have the crap beat out of you by your own teams fans for being a sissy.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Bammer thread needs to be deleted

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

That's when we come together as Volnation - and with the help of the mods - remove them. Not only on Volnation but on the KNS site. They are notorious for allowing trolls to stir up negativity just for the site hits. But - since this is Alvins thread, I will once again retreat.

OK...but where do you stop with this? This is a free website, that espouses the free exchange of opinions. The only way to get banned is to be overly vulgar. I hate the nega-vols, trolls and just plain egg-no-ra-mooses that hang out here as much as anybody, but I was on a sushine pumping, positive post only Tampa Bay Buccaneer site a few years ago....it sucked massive donkey testes. You can't express one opinion that crosses the official propaganda under those rules. The best thing is for parents, players and families, or friends of such to either stay off the boards, or grow a thick enough skin that they can take negativity with a grain of salt.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Personally. I don't have a problem with other teams fans coming on here.

Never have.....as long as they ARE NOT doing it hiding behind a UT fan name. There is only one reason to assume a fan name of another team.

My opinion....if you don't have the nads to go into another teams fansite flying your own teams colors you should have the crap beat out of you by your own teams fans for being a sissy.

Not a problem when they identify themselves as fans of other teams. What gripes me is fans from other schools who identify themselves as Tennessee fans and then blast us with all the negative posts. Those are the posters who should be blown away. Then you always have the fans like small mike-cattleman and all his other log in names who blast for the enjoyment of creating controversy. Those misguided posters plague all boards and radio sports shows.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

OK...but where do you stop with this? This is a free website, that espouses the free exchange of opinions. The only way to get banned is to be overly vulgar. I hate the nega-vols, trolls and just plain egg-no-ra-mooses that hang out here as much as anybody, but I was on a sushine pumping, positive post only Tampa Bay Buccaneer site a few years ago....it sucked massive donkey testes. You can't express one opinion that crosses the official propaganda under those rules. The best thing is for parents, players and families, or friends of such to either stay off the boards, or grow a thick enough skin that they can take negativity with a grain of salt.

Create a new board from them called Bitc* and Gripe. Don't disguise it as a Tennessee board.

 

[Vol Main]

Create a new board from them called Bitc* and Gripe. Don't disguise it as a Tennessee board.

Hard to beat Coach Majors on this topic. Why not a Legions of the Miserable board?

 

[Freak]

Why financially punish folks who are without guilt for other peoples' misconduct? Unlike GVX, VN has a rule against criticizing the staff, and nobody criticizes the staff. If Freak wanted to stop folks trashing players and recruits, he could do it. Of course, it is far from given that the mods would enforce such a policy with good sense.

The easiest thing to do is use the report button if you feel like a player is being personally trashed. Of course, that means different things to different people.

"I don't believe this this kid has the size and speed to play in the SEC" might be negative but it's a fair opinion.

Personally trashing a kid, however, is over the line and mods view typically view it as such, they justly don't always catch these types of posts. If you report it, the mods may not always agree with you, but I guarantee someone will definitely take a look at the post/poster.

If anyone has issues, you can also email me any time: vol_freak at yahoo.

:hi:

 

[VolenteerSpirit]

How about this, give options for flagging posts as positive and negative. Let people choose which posts to view. Positive, negative, or all.
Let everyone be able to see the opinions, but know which are which.
It would be an interesting way of dealing with the situation, without compromising the freedoms. I agree that all sides need an outlet, but when the snap judgments, and heat of passion is damaging the team we are on here to support then something has to be done.
Same forms, just with an option to choose what content you are seeing.
I think that would be a win win.
Even adding an unlike button would help I think.
If recruit and families were able to see looking at those troll posts, just how many dislike it, it may just make a difference as well. It may help them to see its not the majority.
Everyone takes the don't feed the troll idea, but recruits don't have these trolls blocked.
They see the negative, and only a small group standing up for the coach, the school, the player, the recruit. It looks like a broad consensus where if very few disagree that must be how we all feel.
Just food for thought

 

[BaldBiker]

The easiest thing to do is use the report button if you feel like a player is being personally trashed. Of course, that means different things to different people.

"I don't believe this this kid has the size and speed to play in the SEC" might be negative but it's a fair opinion.

Personally trashing a kid, however, is over the line and mods view typically view it as such, they justly don't always catch these types of posts. If you report it, the mods may not always agree with you, but I guarantee someone will definitely take a look at the post/poster.

If anyone has issues, you can also email me any time: vol_freak at yahoo.

:hi:

I said pretty much the same thing in a different thread.

Unfortunatly, we have too many people on here that do not understand the concept of thinking before you type.

Then there is the bunch that think if we try to clean up what people are saying that we are only wanting one point of view on here, which is completly wrong too. You CAN have a negative opinion. Opinions are what open discussion. Just keep it clean, without trashing the young man.

 

[m1al]

I understand thinking that your good enough to beat out a group of RB's that could be the best RB roster ever in college football. But from a business standpoint why wouldn't you go to another well respect SEC team that gives you a much easy path to being a starter. AK could have been the man at UT walking in the door and been prized by the fans where as at bama he's just a average player. Also if he moves to another position its the same thing at bama cause they are stack at those position's as well. I wish AK the best of luck and I hope he graduates from Bama but it wouldn't surprise me to see him transfer out in a couple years. This is my opinion just wanted to put it out there
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I would've liked to have seen AK at UT as much as anyone but going to another school, even if it is loaded with talent, does not suddenly make him average.

 

[TideWarrior]

I said pretty much the same thing in a different thread.

Unfortunatly, we have too many people on here that do not understand the concept of thinking before you type.

Then there is the bunch that think if we try to clean up what people are saying that we are only wanting one point of view on here, which is completly wrong too. You CAN have a negative opinion. Opinions are what open discussion. Just keep it clean, without trashing the young man.

Even when some think what they are writing is not negative. Read the later interviews from Kamara. He got mad at all the people that kept saying he would ride the bench at UA and be buried in the depth chart.

I understand the arguement and see nothing wrong with saying he would have a better chance at one school to see the field early because no depth, but to continue and say at another he will not see the field. A recruit sees that as a fan saying that he is not good enough to play. Not to mention the cureent players on the roster who may read the board as well when they see their own fans say a HS school will start over them.

 

[BaldBiker]

Even when some think what they are writing is not negative. Read the later interviews from Kamara. He got mad at all the people that kept saying he would ride the bench at UA and be buried in the depth chart.

I understand the arguement and see nothing wrong with saying he would have a better chance at one school to see the field early because no depth, but to continue and say at another he will not see the field. A recruit sees that as a fan saying that he is not good enough to play. Not to mention the cureent players on the roster who may read the board as well when they see their own fans say a HS school will start over them.

Exactly. As a young man reading crap like that, I would think... So what you are saying is, I'm not good enough to start for these other teams, but you'll take me because you can't get anybody better.

Of course I would choose the other school. Doesn't matter what we think though. Idiots are still going to post what idiots are going to post. Then they will blame everybody else for these young men not coming to UT.

I swear I can not possibly be the only one that saw them talking about this on ESPN during the afternoon on NSD. Talked several minutes about message boards and tweets and the negative impact it can have recruiting these young men. Didn't mention a school, but sure sounded like a lot of it was meant for UT's "idiot fans".

 

[The Breakerboy]

Only people that don't know talent would say this kid would ride the bench. He's as good or better than any back in UA's class. He'll be a problem at RB behind that type of line. I hope he's moved to slot WR personally.

 

[Brentwoodvolfan]

We may have some village idiots, but I guarantee we have not cornered the market!!! Every fan base has them!! Biggest problem we have is also one of our claims to fame. This site!!! It's free and by far the best one I've seen. Most others are pay, and most can't get on, but here sign up and go. We have to take the bitter with the sweet!!! I would like to see a rating of sorts button. At least we could show which posts we don't agree with so other's could see only a few have that twisted negative view but most don't agree with it!! My 2 cents worth!!

 

[Weezer]

I would've liked to have seen AK at UT as much as anyone but going to another school, even if it is loaded with talent, does not suddenly make him average.

To be fair, using the definition of average and comparing the Bama team, AK might very well be average at Bama. Now if you broaden that comparison to include, say the entire SEC, then I'd place him above average. But Bama is so loaded with talent that when you compare just their roster, it's hard to point out one player as a superstar, head and shoulders above the rest. I hate to admit that, but let's face it, Saban gets to cherry pick.

 

[Weezer]

Only people that don't know talent would say this kid would ride the bench. He's as good or better than any back in UA's class. He'll be a problem at RB behind that type of line. I hope he's moved to slot WR personally.

He's good. No doubt. He'll see the field. Barring injury, he'll most likely be a superstar. But I won't slight Bama's other backs either. I would love to have had just about any of them.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

He's good. No doubt. He'll see the field. Barring injury, he'll most likely be a superstar. But I won't slight Bama's other backs either. I would love to have had just about any of them.

Good thing only one of em can carry the ball at a time then ain't it? What difference does it make how many they have? After the top two it really doesn't matter. If you can stop one, you can stop em all.

 

[VOLinNC]

To be fair, using the definition of average and comparing the Bama team, AK might very well be average at Bama. Now if you broaden that comparison to include, say the entire SEC, then I'd place him above average. But Bama is so loaded with talent that when you compare just their roster, it's hard to point out one player as a superstar, head and shoulders above the rest. I hate to admit that, but let's face it, Saban gets to cherry pick.

Exactly, an average bama RB would be the man elsewhere.
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[TideWarrior]

To be fair, using the definition of average and comparing the Bama team, AK might very well be average at Bama. Now if you broaden that comparison to include, say the entire SEC, then I'd place him above average. But Bama is so loaded with talent that when you compare just their roster, it's hard to point out one player as a superstar, head and shoulders above the rest. I hate to admit that, but let's face it, Saban gets to cherry pick.

Who are you comparing him to. UA has technically 4 RBs returning. Yeldon looks to be the #1 RB going into the fall. Fowler if he can return from injury will be a FB and was being groomed for that last season before the injury. D Hart has had a season ending knee injury two seasons in a row. Drake another true freshman like Yeldon only saw mop-up duty late in games. So out of the 4 returning only Yeldon has a spot locked up.

Now with the 4 incoming Henry might have a leg up on Kamara because he is an EE, but Jones, Tenpenny, and Kamara all come in at the same time and no one really knows just like with Henry, what any of those 4 are capable of in the SEC as true freshman.

So in short any RB in the 2013 class like Kamara sees UA only has 1 RB that looks to have playing time locked up. The #2 and #3 RB spot on the depth chart is wide open. Now in 2014 UA will probably land Thomas and that is it because of depth, but right now that depth has yet to be determined how the pecking order will go.

 

[old vol]

TW-do you really think all 4 of these kids will play running back @ Alabama especially with Thomas coming in next year. Three of these 4 will simply be small ducks in a big pond IMO.

 

[The Breakerboy]

TW-do you really think all 4 of these kids will play running back @ Alabama especially with Thomas coming in next year. Three of these 4 will simply be small ducks in a big pond IMO.

Henry will be moved. Rumors are that he's already at OLB. He's not at the same level as a RB as any of the others. Kamara and Jones are two best backs in that class. Hart, Drake, or/and Tenpenny will end up transferring. They won't all be able to fend off Rock Thomas.

 

[secking]

Henry will be moved. Rumors are that he's already at OLB. He's not at the same level as a RB as any of the others. Kamara and Jones are two best backs in that class. Hart, Drake, or/and Tenpenny will end up transferring. They won't all be able to fend off Rock Thomas.

OLB? I doubt Henry would go for that, he has never played defense. He does have the size to do it. But, he would make a heck of a TE.

Now to more serious news, has Kamara been fitted for his new suits yet?

 

[FootballProdiG]

I don't know why any one with the staple position of RB would choose to go to Alabama. Seems like a waste of ones career to me. You could be the featured back of your own offense and take a team to the SEC conference championship on your back or perhaps maybe even a BCS. And yet you choose to go where OTHER people who the position already are. Don't understand that logic myself. If everyone thought like that, Alabama would have 25 RB's while the rest of us SEC teams got leftover scraps. Hope Jabo runs all over their defense next year.

 

[KoachKletus]

I don't know why any one with the staple position of RB would choose to go to Alabama. Seems like a waste of ones career to me. You could be the featured back of your own offense and take a team to the SEC conference championship on your back or perhaps maybe even a BCS. And yet you choose to go where OTHER people who the position already are. Don't understand that logic myself. If everyone thought like that, Alabama would have 25 RB's while the rest of us SEC teams got leftover scraps. Hope Jabo runs all over their defense next year.

Simply, no. A team needs 3-4 quality running backs in the SEC. AK will not be riding the pine at 'bama. What he will do is get his touches and hopefully survive the SEC grind to get his payday. Along with the other backs at 'bama.