'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

[Enki_Amenra]

Seam passes, outs, ins, skinny posts. They are much crisper. His fundamentals are much better than TG's.

Don't be so upset. TG is going to be one heck of a WR at the collegiate level. It is where he can do the most damage.

:lolabove::loco:

No, his fundamentals aren't better.

For simple proof that anyone can see, watch their legs when they make throws. Dormady almost always raises his back foot much higher than he should. This results from a QB who has not properly squared their body to the target, which creates the need for more torso twist - which leads to the leg being raised, or kicked.

QBs can be successful with this flaw, but it requires a much stronger arm and can really wreak havoc on a QBs accuracy. Someone who has had a throwing arm injury will have to correct this particular flaw quickly, if they want to continue playing for years to come.

There are also comparable flaws in both of their throwing motion. To say one is better than the other, based on their available film, is not an accurate statement.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

So it's enough for you that the coaches took QD commitment to play QB. Yet for some reason the same coaches who offered Gibson at QB, it's different. Just go ahead and admit you're a Gibson hater pure and simple. This post just proves it. If you trust the coaches decisions, then their decision to take Gibson as a QB should be fine with you as well.

That's kind of my whole point. They DID take Dormady. He is a Vol. Gibson as of now at least is not. A lot of folks are 100% sure they would take him as a QB today. I'm just not part of that group now that 2 are committed. I don't hate Gibson. I just see no point in taking a QB who looks very much the same to me as Jennings QB wise and skillset wise. I do trust the coaches decisions and I really don't have a choice in that. The fact still remains that those coaches have NOT taken Torrance Gibson as a QB in the 2015 class.

 

[eazyTD]

Looks like I've missed yet another great Torrance Gibson debate featuring LV/Tux vs The World.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Its not a waste. Let them compete and the better player wins out. So we will have a good qb either way. Then someone to backup or switch positions.

Exactly. What's wrong with letting Dormady, Gibson and Jennings compete for the starting job? Whoever wins earns the starting job. None of these QBs should be afraid of competition.

 

[k-town_king]

That's kind of my whole point. They DID take Dormady. He is a Vol. Gibson as of now at least is not. A lot of folks are 100% sure they would take him as a QB today. I'm just not part of that group now that 2 are committed. I don't hate Gibson. I just see no point in taking a QB who looks very much the same to me as Jennings QB wise and skillset wise. I do trust the coaches decisions and I really don't have a choice in that. The fact still remains that those coaches have NOT taken Torrance Gibson as a QB in the 2015 class.

Its not that the coaches haven't taken him. They would have if was willing. It's that he is making them wait and they are more than happy to with 2 guys committed. Stop trying to twist things.

 

[k-town_king]

Exactly. What's wrong with letting Dormady, Gibson and Jennings compete for the starting job? Whoever wins earns the starting job. None of these QBs should be afraid of competition.

They don't want us to take him because they know who Butch really wants and that Gibson is more talented and will probably win the job.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Its not that the coaches haven't taken him. They would have if was willing. It's that he is making them wait and they are more than happy to with 2 guys committed. Stop trying to twist things.

I'm not twisting anything. We have 2 QBs committed. History tells me they will not be taking a 3rd in the same class, especially with it being a smaller class. I get the * gazers are fixated on the *'s. I'm just not. :dunno:

 

[Burger]

Its not that the coaches haven't taken him. They would have if was willing. It's that he is making them wait and they are more than happy to with 2 guys committed. Stop trying to twist things.

It just looks like the coaches want him at wide out. Taking three QBs never makes sense considering our needs.

 

[eazyTD]

I'm not twisting anything. We have 2 QBs committed. History tells me they will not be taking a 3rd in the same class, especially with it being a smaller class. I get the * gazers are fixated on the *'s. I'm just not. :dunno:

22-25 isn't a smaller class. That's about normal.

We might be taking 3 QBs. We might be taking 2 QBs and a WR. We could also be taking 2 QBs and a Safety. There's also a chance we're taking 1 QB along with 1 WR and 1 Safety :question:

 

[Burger]

I'm not twisting anything. We have 2 QBs committed. History tells me they will not be taking a 3rd in the same class, especially with it being a smaller class. I get the * gazers are fixated on the *'s. I'm just not. :dunno:

*'s are very overrated. Especially considering most of the "evaluators" never played the game.

 

[k-town_king]

I'm not twisting anything. We have 2 QBs committed. History tells me they will not be taking a 3rd in the same class, especially with it being a smaller class. I get the * gazers are fixated on the *'s. I'm just not. :dunno:

It just looks like the coaches want him at wide out. Taking three QBs never makes sense considering our needs.

We offered him at qb. He wants to play qb. We are number one with him. That says we will take 3 qbs. They are still recruiting Francois at qb. If we aren't willing to take three you think they would waste time and money?

What could possibly make you think the coaches want him at wr? Literally not a single report has said that. What wr needs? We have the number 1 wr and are in on several top150 wrs.

 

[Burger]

We offered him at qb. He wants to play qb. We are number one with him. That says we will take 3 qbs. They are still recruiting Francois at qb. If we aren't willing to take three you think they would waste time and money?

What could possibly make you think the coaches want him at wr? Literally not a single report has said that. What wr needs? We have the number 1 wr and are in on several top150 wrs.

Gibson runs a 4.4 and is 6'4". We have two guys already committed. When two qbs come in the same class, one usually transfers. Shaeffer, Stewart, and Ferguson are my examples of that. I don't see all three being QBs by spring ball if they come here.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I'm not twisting anything. We have 2 QBs committed. History tells me they will not be taking a 3rd in the same class, especially with it being a smaller class. I get the * gazers are fixated on the *'s. I'm just not. :dunno:

This will only be CBJ's 2nd full recruiting class. How can you point to any sort of historical precedence? He's not Fulmer, Kiffin, or Dooley and there's no reason to think a recruiting class in a critical rebuilding year will be similar to any other class previously assembled.

 

[k-town_king]

Gibson runs a 4.4 and is 6'4". We have two guys already committed. When two qbs come in the same class, one usually transfers. Shaeffer, Stewart, and Ferguson are my examples of that. I don't see all three being QBs by spring ball if they come here.

Good. The worst will be moved or transfer. The cream will rise. Win win. Why are people scared of this? If one transfers it means the other is better.

 

[Burger]

This will only be CBJ's 2nd full recruiting class. How can you point to any sort of historical precedence? He's not Fulmer, Kiffin, or Dooley and there's no reason to think a recruiting class in a critical rebuilding year will be similar to any other class previously assembled.

He won't be taking 32 like the previous year. It will be smaller than the previous assembled one.

 

[eazyTD]

Good. The worst will be moved or transfer. The cream will rise. Win win. Why are people scared of this? If one transfers it means the other is better.

Exactly.

 

[Burger]

Good. The worst will be moved or transfer. The cream will rise. Win win. Why are people scared of this? If one transfers it means the other is better.

We could use that spot for another position like either line. It's a waste of scholarship if they transfer. That's not efficient at all in a conference of efficiency

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

We offered him at qb. He wants to play qb. We are number one with him. That says we will take 3 qbs. They are still recruiting Francois at qb. If we aren't willing to take three you think they would waste time and money?

What could possibly make you think the coaches want him at wr? Literally not a single report has said that. What wr needs? We have the number 1 wr and are in on several top150 wrs.

We offered Harrell at OG. He wants to play OG, We were #1 with him when he picked AU because UT passed.

We offered S. Johnson at DT. He wants to play DT, We were his #1 with him when he picked Clemson because UT passed.

I would fully expect our coaches to continue to recruit every position throughout NSD. Things can and do happen. I would expect them to still recruit QBs. Of course recruiting them, and taking them is very different. See above.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

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[eazyTD]

*'s are very overrated. Especially considering most of the "evaluators" never played the game.

Bull****. Alabama has had the #1 class 4 years in a row. In that timeframe they have 2 National Championships and are 46-7 overall.

Stars are not the entire determining factor of success but it's a very large portion of it. If stars didn't matter, no one would be on here talking about recruiting to begin with.

 

[eazyTD]

We could use that spot for another position like either line. It's a waste of scholarship if they transfer. That's not efficient at all in a conference of efficiency

When recruiting becomes an exact science, let me know. Until then there will be busts and less talented players will transfer.

 

[k-town_king]

We could use that spot for another position like either line. It's a waste of scholarship if they transfer. That's not efficient at all in a conference of efficiency

I would rather take an extra qb. What if Dormady is still hurt? What if he is a bust? That's a waste. You never know. I would rather take the top player at his position and top 15 player than a low rated depth lineman. We won't be passing any highly rated guys up at any position. We will make it work. This argument makes no sense.

 

[k-town_king]

We offered Harrell at OG. He wants to play OG, We were #1 with him when he picked AU because UT passed.

We offered S. Johnson at DT. He wants to play DT, We were his #1 with him when he picked Clemson because UT passed.

I would fully expect our coaches to continue to recruit every position throughout NSD. Things can and do happen. I would expect them to still recruit QBs. Of course recruiting them, and taking them is very different. See above.

Remind me which one of these guys with non committable offers is a top 15 player and no 1 at his position. If they don't accept someone like K McKenzie's commit then it will be comparable.

 

[Burger]

Bull****. Alabama has had the #1 class 4 years in a row. In that timeframe they have 2 National Championships and are 46-7 overall.

Stars are not the entire determining factor of success but it's a very large portion of it. If stars didn't matter, no one would be on here talking about recruiting to begin with.

Texas had the #1 class for a few years and didn't win squat.

 

[Burger]

I would rather take an extra qb. What if Dormady is still hurt? What if he is a bust? That's a waste. You never know. I would rather take the top player at his position and top 15 player than a low rated depth lineman. We won't be passing any highly rated guys up at any position. We will make it work. This argument makes no sense.

Who says the lineman is lowly rated? We take one guy every year to solve your problems with Dormany. So Butch is going to make up magical scholarships that don't exist?

Our biggest mistake was not taking a QB in 2014.