'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

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BigOrangeTrain said:
I am not saying he will be like Peyton. Just that you cannot read too much into high school stats to gauge success at the collegiate level. Completing over 50% of your passes is still good for a high school QB. Plus accuracy can be taught and improved upon.

I really don't see why we are quibbling over elite QBs. Both Gibson and Gentry are studs and we should be very happy both of these guys have us in their tops. Whichever one commits will be making me do the mega-boom-shakalaka-holy-crap-on-a-cracker-we-got-a-truly-elite-QB dance. #Iamexcitedashell
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Honestly, a lot of high school qb's are completing 65-70 percent of there passes.
 
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Damn guise...

We're either gonna get a 5* QB, or a 4* that could end up a 5*. Can we at least just enjoy being in the drivers seat for 2 really, really good quarterbacks.

I mean c'mon, I know I'm not the only one who would be happy with either one of them.
 
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Serenadium51 said:
Damn guise...

We're either gonna get a 5* QB, or a 4* that could end up a 5*. Can we at least just enjoy being in the drivers seat for 2 really, really good quarterbacks.

I mean c'mon, I know I'm not the only one who would be happy with either one of them.
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Agreed.
 
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butchna said:
You don't see the difference in throwing year round vs playing other sports in their seasons? You think some of these kids hovering around 70% were just better prepared than PEYTON MANNING was in high school and he just got better in college? :huh:
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1. If you don't think Peyton was throwing the football or learning to study film year round, you must not know much about him.

2. I have no idea what you mean by the last point. I wasn't implying that kids with high completion percentages were more prepared than Peyton or that he "just got better in college." Peyton was a once in a lifetime talent who also worked his ass off continuously to improve and gain a better understanding of the game. And he had a "less than ideal" completion percentage in high school.


My only point was that kids running around in shorts all summer doesn't necessarily make them better prepared than someone from Peyton's era who played multiple sports. There are plenty of current examples of multiple sport athletes in college football who prove that point. The last Heisman winner plays baseball too, y'know.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
1. If you don't think Peyton was throwing the football or learning to study film year round, you must not know much about him.

2. I have no idea what you mean by the last point. I wasn't implying that kids with high completion percentages were more prepared than Peyton or that he "just got better in college." Peyton was a once in a lifetime talent who also worked his ass off continuously to improve and gain a better understanding of the game. And he had a "less than ideal" completion percentage in high school.


My only point was that kids running around in shorts all summer doesn't necessarily make them better prepared than someone from Peyton's era who played multiple sports. There are plenty of current examples of multiple sport athletes in college football who prove that point. The last Heisman winner plays baseball too, y'know.
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The crux of our civil discussion is your comparison of their high school completion percentages...you've somehow slanted that to where I'M SAYING PEYTON WASN'T PREPARED IN HIGH SCHOOL?? Bolsch!! My point is that with year round focus on throwing the football,TG should be throwing at a more accurate percentage...instead he's catching passes at football camp!!! :yess:
 
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butchna said:
The crux of our civil discussion is your comparison of their high school completion percentages...you've somehow slanted that to where I'M SAYING PEYTON WASN'T PREPARED IN HIGH SCHOOL?? Bolsch!! My point is that with year round focus on throwing the football,TG should be throwing at a more accurate percentage...instead he's catching passes at football camp!!! :yess:
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I never implied that you said that about Peyton at all. Did you read my posts? All I said is that I think you're putting a little too much emphasis on summer 7v7 and passing drills translating to actual on the field results and that having a less than ideal completion percentage in high school doesn't mean a QB can't or won't be better in college.

I was just making a counterpoint towards your argument that you can't compare Peyton's completion percentage with Gibson's because more QBs played multiple sports in Peyton's era.


FWIW I'm not sold on Gibson as a passer yet either. I just think your particular line of argument is flawed and you need to work on reading comprehension.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I never implied that you said that about Peyton at all. Did you read my posts? All I said is that I think you're putting a little too much emphasis on summer 7v7 and passing drills translating to actual on the field results and that having a less than ideal completion percentage in high school doesn't mean a QB can't or won't be better in college.

I was just making a counterpoint towards your argument that you can't compare Peyton's completion percentage with Gibson's because more QBs played multiple sports in Peyton's era.


FWIW I'm not sold on Gibson as a passer yet either. I just think your particular line of argument is flawed and you need to work on reading comprehension.
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You have some good points...I just disagree with most of them. :good!:
 
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Go Fight Win said:
Obviously I want whoever the coaches have as their #1 QB on the board, however, with the conspiracy theory behind the "group text message" I wonder how it would change things if TG committed elsewhere due to Gentry committing here
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I'd like to entertain this thought, since, you know, why not?
 
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smashmouth98 said:
awesome gif. HILARIOUS!!!!
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Insulting to the pit bull mixes though, neither urban or gus strike me as being like a pitbull...had a pitbull mix for 13+ years, one of the best dogs ever. Great with my kids and NO ONE would pose a threat to them or my wife. :)

Agree though, great gif!
 
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B-sideVol18 said:
Honestly, the short ones and the deep ones are the easiest. Not saying deep ones aren't the easiest to complete, but throwing the ball down the sideline in 1 on 1 coverage is not super complex. But you do have to have the arm for it.

The thing that's most important, IMO, is the intermediate passing game. Fitting the ball in tight windows 10-20 yards downfield. Seeing the soft spot in the zone and firing it right in there before the speedy secondary has a chance to close it off.

Those are the throws I'm looking at for judging a qb's accuracy. Not the short check downs or laying a ball up down the field to let his receiver run under it. Although those passes are not easy throws either.
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Thanks. Excellent response! :hi:
 
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Serenadium51 said:
Damn guise...

We're either gonna get a 5* QB, or a 4* that could end up a 5*. Can we at least just enjoy being in the drivers seat for 2 really, really good quarterbacks.

I mean c'mon, I know I'm not the only one who would be happy with either one of them.
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You're not.....some just feel like they have to take sides for reasons that they dont have a strong argument for
 
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As so many have said before, I would be totally fine with either Gentry or Gibson. My theories are as follows:

Gentry: has a strong arm already and has shown that he is an accurate passer. He's not the kind of QB that I would rely on to run the ball a lot, but in the event of a broken play, he's a big guy and maneuvers like a TE. We have a heck of a rushing core now in Hurd, Scott, Lane, and Paulk, and our receiving roster speaks for itself. The staff would have to spend less effort on developing his passing game.

Gibson: the consensus is that his passing game isn't the greatest, and you can't really refute that. However, he's a ridiculously good athlete that can pick up much needed yards with his feet in the even of a broken play or if there's just plenty of room to run. He would need a lot of help with his passing game.

In the end, these guys are two very different quarterbacks who would benefit from different offenses. I think what happens is that Butch and crew will tailor the offense to whichever quarterback pulls the trigger first.

Just my opinion.
 
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Serenadium51 said:
Damn guise...

We're either gonna get a 5* QB, or a 4* that could end up a 5*. Can we at least just enjoy being in the drivers seat for 2 really, really good quarterbacks.

I mean c'mon, I know I'm not the only one who would be happy with either one of them.
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