'14 TN WR Josh Malone (UT commit 12/4/13)

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Tux said:
I don't believe that is a concern, as he has signed a financial aid agreement with Georgia, which allows him unlimited coaches visits within family tastes.
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I agree with that but knowing he has 1 visit to UT's 4...going first really puts him behind the eightball. This isn't CMR first ride, the weather just gave him a better shot with a Hail Mary.
 
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IMO, Malone's decision was made back when he set up his announcement date. Think about it, it only makes sense. Why would you pick a deadline for yourself if you weren't sure you could make it?

Like Ron's stated before, my main confidence with this one is that the announcement was set right after his OV to UT.

Boom.

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palmer103 said:
Jesus, takes things literally why don't ya. It's just an easy way to break down where everyone stands. Is that OK with you?
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I said giggle bro, is that ok with you? I just think it is ridiculous to break down the percentages of 3 schools that a kid may choose. Can we take things too far on here? Obviously it is VN!
 
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Brillovol said:
IMO, Malone's decision was made back when he set up his announcement date. Think about it, it only makes sense. Why would you pick a deadline for yourself if you weren't sure you could make it?

Like Ron's stated before, my main confidence with this one is that the announcement was set right after his OV to UT.

Boom.




Very good take. He has known for some time where he's going. Tennessee got the signed grant at least a week before anyone else. Only after FSU got word of it did anyone else get one. Josh has been in contact with Vol recruits and probably Vol players. The family likes the school and the staff and the location. He's a Vol.
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OldVol49vfl said:
Brillovol said:
Very good take. He has known for some time where he's going. Tennessee got the signed grant at least a week before anyone else. Only after FSU got word of it did anyone else get one. Josh has been in contact with Vol recruits and probably Vol players. The family likes the school and the staff and the location. He's a Vol.
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I agree with this, and it is why I'm still saying Tenn.
Just keep in mind that all of this was done before his Official to Clemson and having Watson, Kitt, Scott, and Sammy in his ear all weekend. It was also before Tenn lost to Vandy.

All I'm saying is that there's at least a small chance he might have changed his mind or possibly reevaluating things.
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kmkemp11 said:
That's just not true. Just because it's worked out for some coaches doesn't mean it will always work out. There are plenty of counterexamples out there. There are plenty of reasons to doubt that Butch can translate his success to the SEC. He never had to coach against Saban at Cincinatti. He never had to win games with less talented teams. His leash is shorter in the SEC where every win is worth more dollars, so there is pressure to turn it around quickly. Next year, for example, we project to probably not have a better roster (except maybe in the depth) but this place will go ape**** if we only win 5 games.[/QUOTE


So it's just not true that Meyer, Saban, Spurrier and Miles came from "lesser" conferences as successful coaches and transitioned their winning systems quite nicely to National Championship Programs at Florida (twice), Saban (LSU & Bama, 4 times), Florida (once) and Miles (once).

I have given you 4 examples off the top of my head and I'm sure I could give you more. You said there were counter examples.... who? There may be plenty, I don't know. Give me a few who were successful at other conferences and were bad in the SEC.

Successful coaches are, wait for it.....successful coaches, and they tend to be successful no matter where they coach.

Conversely, bad coaches with little to no success in "lesser conferences" or who were not successful collegiate HCs anywhere tend not to do well in the SEC.... I can quickly think of 3 ... Gerry DiNardo, Lane Kiffin and Derek Dooley.

Also, Butch coached vs Charlie Strong, a guy most consider a coaching star and the guy who UT wanted ahead of Jones.... were it not for a narrow 3 point overtime loss at Louisville last year, Butch would've been 3-0 against Strong. To my knowledge Butch never had the opportunity to coach vs Saban... can't say what that outcome would've been, but how does that remotely relate to what we're discussing here? Are you saying that because Butch didn't coach a game vs Saban that his 4 share of or outright conf championships didn't happen or weren't legit?

Finally, you said Butch never had to win games with lesser talented teams. Can you prove that? I saw an analysis shortly after he was hired that showed that while at Cincy, on average, he won 2 games per season that, based on talent evaluations on paper of the 2 teams, he won 2 games per season he was not supposed to win. Isn't that the definition of winning games with lesser talented teams?

Look, I don't, you don't, no one knows if Butch is gonna make it happen here. Time will tell. But I'll stick to my original argument that good coaches who have success and/or win championships in lesser conferences (MAC, Mtn West, Big East,etc) can, have and will continue to run successful programs in the SEC.
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Clemson is a real threat, but hopefully the visit high wears off and Butch resells him his vision and eases his concerns about the QB position going forward.
 
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Help me with the timeline here.

I have read some post here from those that have some connection to the kid that he made a decision some time ago.

When was that decision made??
 
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