'14 NC PG JaQuel Richmond

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bleedingTNorange said:
If they're selling Lyle on being the only recruited PG, and they feel its an advantage they have over UL or IU I get it. Robert Hubbs said one of the biggest things with Tennessee in their recruitment was that Martin told him he was the only guard he was recruiting at that spot, he was their guy. They ended up landing him, so maybe they're trying again.

Not necessarily saying its the best course of action, just playing devils advocate.
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I hear ya. and I get SJAVols point too. I just dont think we are in a position to pick and choose which quality player we take and which we hold off on, till we see if one or two other guys commit. JMHO
 
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zjcvols said:
If the staff told Richmond to wait in mid June, then they are dumber than I thought.
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Unless they feel damn good about someone who is higher on their board, such as
Mitchell.

IMO you take any 2 of Mitchell/Lyle/Richmond and be more than happy about it, but I'm not sure the staff feels the same way. From what I've been told the staff is looking for a class of 5, and basically one guy at each position.

PG: Lyle/Mitchell/Richmond
SG: Cornish
SF: Looney/Lindsey/Noris
F: Cofer
C: Hurt/Reed
 
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GoobieVol said:
I hear ya. and I get SJAVols point too. I just dont think we are in a position to pick and choose which quality player we take and which we hold off on, till we see if one or two other guys commit. JMHO
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I agree with you..but like I admit, we don't know what the staff knows. Maybe they know they have Mitchell locked up, if they miss on Lyle.

Or maybe Richmond just wants to wait and all this is wrong lol.
 
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true truth

Just window shopping I would definitely take Mitchell over Richmond. Buuut Richmond's video looked pretty good too. Who knows...

If we win this year, it really doesnt matter. IMO
 
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If we can finish with 2 of the three PG's we are recruiting ill be fine either way Jaquan and who ever else would be the best but if its Mitchell and Richmond ill be more than happy.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
This is what concerns me a bit. If its true that Richmond was gonna commit to UT, and coaches told him to wait, they may regret it. If you miss on Lyle and Mitchell, and Richmond got sick of waiting, then what? At the same time, if one of your selling points to Lyle is he's the only PG you're pursuing, well then I guess you have to sink or swim with that.
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That happened to Pearl on pg's too. He could have taken Holloway who went to Xavier but didn't because Cashmere Wright had told us he was coming and then at the last minute went to Cicny.
 
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Were only taking one point guard doubt we take Richmond because Lyle could be a Vol. If he is gonna be a point guard he will be the man. I think Mitchell would be our next choice if Lyle don't come. Richmond may commit elsewhere before we get to him.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Were only taking one point guard doubt we take Richmond because Lyle could be a Vol. If he is gonna be a point guard he will be the man. I think Mitchell would be our next choice if Lyle don't come. Richmond may commit elsewhere before we get to him.
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Wait....so you're saying don't waste our time on looney, and if a ranked guy wants to commit take him. Yet in the Lyle thread you're now saying don't take Richmond (who's pretty highly rated) wait on Lyle?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Wait....so you're saying don't waste our time on looney, and if a ranked guy wants to commit take him. Yet in the Lyle thread you're now saying don't take Richmond (who's pretty highly rated) wait on Lyle?
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Never said don't waste our time on Looney but you have to have a date set when you make a decision to accept another commit before it is to late. If you find a guy you like willing to wait to the last minute great but with Looney I don't expect a commit until September or even later. We could take a class of four and just accept that if eh goes elsewhere. We effectively at this time have only one scholarship to offer if we accept another commit other than a point guard because a point guard will be in this class.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Wait....so you're saying don't waste our time on looney, and if a ranked guy wants to commit take him. Yet in the Lyle thread you're now saying don't take Richmond (who's pretty highly rated) wait on Lyle?
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I think were in better shape with Lyle than Looney at the present time. I think were in his top two so when you get to that point you wait until the end.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Never said don't waste our time on Looney but you have to have a date set when you make a decision to accept another commit before it is to late. If you find a guy you like willing to wait to the last minute great but with Looney I don't expect a commit until September or even later. We could take a class of four and just accept that if eh goes elsewhere. We effectively at this time have only one scholarship to offer if we accept another commit other than a point guard because a point guard will be in this class.
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How do you figure? How many scholarships did we have open for the 13 class, and how many did we take?
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I think were in better shape with Lyle than Looney at the present time. I think were in his top two so when you get to that point you wait until the end.
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You're acting like looney is holding us hostage til signing day. We already have 2 commits,that's a lot more than most teams in the country currently have. Looney appears to probably be destined for a September-November decision, that's no big deal.

Like I said, if a top 50 forward was beating down our door wanting to commit you'd have a point, but there isn't one. Right now we are fighting for all our targets, because none of the guys we truly want are ready to decide, so why let off the recruitment on looney?

You continue to recruit him hard, and if in September he commits somewhere else, you push hard for someone who was behind him on your board. I would rather wait and try to land a guy like looney, than take a guy like Shane hall now and lose looney.

IMO you won't see another recruit commit to Tennessee until Lyle, looney or hurt either commit somewhere or cut Tennessee from their list. Those are the top 3 guys on Tennessee's board and they're gonna fight to get them til the very end.
 
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BTO or anyone? Do you think we would excepted Richmond commit if he had committed before Cornish or Cofer had committed?
 
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10ASEEVOLSFAN said:
BTO or anyone? Do you think we would excepted Richmond commit if he had committed before Cornish or Cofer had committed?
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Me personally no because we were and prolly are still waiting on Lyle. And we had offered Mitchell then too. Never know for sure tho.
 
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10ASEEVOLSFAN said:
BTO or anyone? Do you think we would excepted Richmond commit if he had committed before Cornish or Cofer had committed?
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No I don't think so.

I think Cornish and Demery along with a few others had a first come first serve offer, which is one reason jordan jumped so quick. There was likely going to always be a spot for Cofer, but don't wanna take chances and he jumped on it. So, this is how I see it...

Staff will take 1 PG:

1. Lyle 2. Mitchell 3. Richmond

Staff will take 1 SF:

1. Looney 2. Black 3. Lindsey 4. Norris 5. Hill

Staff will take 1 C:

1. Hurt 2. Turman 3. Hall

IMO this is how the staff views them on their board at each position. Now there's obviously some guys who you take even if you've already got a commit. Such as say Lindsey, even if we have looney you still gladly take Lindsey.

At this point, like I said in another thread...IMO we will not see another commit until Lyle/Looney either commit to another school or cut us from their list.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I think the staff MIGHT take a Mitchell commit before knowing Lyle's fate, but not positive on that one.
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You would think they would take Mitchell's commitment. Mitchell is versatile enough to play 1/2 and has the stroke to back it up. It really depends "when" he tried to commit. If it were now then no. But if it were December then yes. The longer this takes then the riskier the decision to lose out on your backups and your main target.
 
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There's a Rivals story from December indicating Richmond was planning to commit to Wake in January.

Wonder what these coaches are telling him?

ybleedingTNorange said:
This is what concerns me a bit. If its true that Richmond was gonna commit to UT, and coaches told him to wait, they may regret it. If you miss on Lyle and Mitchell, and Richmond got sick of waiting, then what? At the same time, if one of your selling points to Lyle is he's the only PG you're pursuing, well then I guess you have to sink or swim with that.
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jknox33 said:
You would think they would take Mitchell's commitment. Mitchell is versatile enough to play 1/2 and has the stroke to back it up. It really depends "when" he tried to commit. If it were now then no. But if it were December then yes. The longer this takes then the riskier the decision to lose out on your backups and your main target.
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I definitely agree
 
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jknox33 said:
You would think they would take Mitchell's commitment. Mitchell is versatile enough to play 1/2 and has the stroke to back it up. It really depends "when" he tried to commit. If it were now then no. But if it were December then yes. The longer this takes then the riskier the decision to lose out on your backups and your main target.
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Absolutely...

I would add even if it was now, you take it. I guess I understand the Richmond deal(if it went down like I interpreted) waiting to see if Mitchell or Lyle are on board. But as desperate as were were about 3 or 4 weeks ago for a pg, I might have tken Richmonds committment just to lock up a decent pg.

I just wonder if the Landry scenario, had anything to do with not taking his committment now. If in fact thats what happen.
 
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Richmond is a tremendous talent he is quick and can shoot hopefully we'll still have a chance at him if the others decide elsewhere.
 
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