'14 IL TE Daniel Helm (UT commit 4/23/13)

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Helm finished with four catches for 33 yards and two touchdowns receiving, added five carries for 21 yards and was 1 of 2 passing for 67 yards in Glenwood's 67-35 loss to Sacred Heart-Griffin. Next week it's Springfield in their regular season finale.

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He's a really good receiving TE, but 247 doesn't rate his physicality very high. Blocking needs work as well they say. Quinn is an example of being great in 7 on 7 drills but he needs to be more physical to get on the field.
 
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He's a really good receiving TE, but 247 doesn't rate his physicality very high. Blocking needs work as well they say. Quinn is an example of being great in 7 on 7 drills but he needs to be more physical to get on the field.
When did Quinn do "great" in a 7 on 7? I'm being serious, I'd love to see it.
 
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Anyone remember what he was ranked before being moved to #1 TE in Rivals? Sometimes I wished they had links to past ratings, so you could see progression. Like a link to Rivals 2014 Tight Ends preseason, Rivals 2014 Tight Ends 8/20/13, etc.

As for blocking, this Rivals video said most of his Jr yr, he was split out, so blocking is something he has to prove when put in that position. But, at least they think he has the frame to add the build to be a good blocker. I hear awesome things about his catching and route running.
*Can't understate the importance of running the right routes (as we can attest after a few games earlier this season that have since improved greatly).
 
Anyone remember what he was ranked before being moved to #1 TE in Rivals? Sometimes I wished they had links to past ratings, so you could see progression. Like a link to Rivals 2014 Tight Ends preseason, Rivals 2014 Tight Ends 8/20/13, etc.

As for blocking, this Rivals video said most of his Jr yr, he was split out, so blocking is something he has to prove when put in that position. But, at least they think he has the frame to add the build to be a good blocker. I hear awesome things about his catching and route running.
*Can't understate the importance of running the right routes (as we can attest after a few games earlier this season that have since improved greatly).

Helm just needs to learn to block out of the slot which is where he will be playing most his snaps. It's a lot easier to learn to block a S or LB then a big D-lineman. Wolf will be taking the duties of blocking on the line, and is as equally as important as Helm, as Wolf will play as a TE/FB/o-lineman.
 
Helm just needs to learn to block out of the slot which is where he will be playing most his snaps. It's a lot easier to learn to block a S or LB then a big D-lineman. Wolf will be taking the duties of blocking on the line, and is as equally as important as Helm, as Wolf will play as a TE/FB/o-lineman.

You're saying wolf is going to be our h-back and Helm will split out? Smart idea, but both will have to learn both positions eventually.
 
You're saying wolf is going to be our h-back and Helm will split out? Smart idea, but both will have to learn both positions eventually.

Absolutely. I think CBJ knows he's going to need someone who can block as a FB but also play TE. No one on our roster fits that bill right now. I think Wolf will surprise a lot of people. He's that old school TE who's very physical. He'll be used a lot on running plays and goal line plays. I also think he'll be used on punt protection as well. He's a pretty good blocker already, and he's got nice hands.
 
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Absolutely. I think CBJ knows he's going to need someone who can block as a FB but also play TE. No one on our roster fits that bill right now. I think Wolf will surprise a lot of people. He's that old school TE who's very physical. He'll be used a lot on running plays and goal line plays. I also think he'll be used on punt protection as well. He's a pretty good blocker already, and he's got nice hands.

You know a little more than I do about Wolf, but do you think he's good enough for 3rd down back? For him to do it, he has to be fast enough to make defenses think about the run. He will be a tremendous blocker for our qb against the blitz.
 
You know a little more than I do about Wolf, but do you think he's good enough for 3rd down back? For him to do it, he has to be fast enough to make defenses think about the run. He will be a tremendous blocker for our qb against the blitz.

No way wolf would ever be a 3rd down back for us. A threat to run? Lol
 
You're saying wolf is going to be our h-back and Helm will split out? Smart idea, but both will have to learn both positions eventually.

I still think there's a chance Wolf ends up at left tackle. He's got the height and blocking ability. He's got quick feet and would be fast for an LT. The number one draft pick last year took the same path under Butch Jones.

Totally IMO.
 
You know a little more than I do about Wolf, but do you think he's good enough for 3rd down back? For him to do it, he has to be fast enough to make defenses think about the run. He will be a tremendous blocker for our qb against the blitz.

I think you may be confusing the H-back position with the running back position
 
I still think there's a chance Wolf ends up at left tackle. He's got the height and blocking ability. He's got quick feet and would be fast for an LT. The number one draft pick last year took the same path under Butch Jones.

Totally IMO.

That would not surprise me at all.
 
You know a little more than I do about Wolf, but do you think he's good enough for 3rd down back? For him to do it, he has to be fast enough to make defenses think about the run. He will be a tremendous blocker for our qb against the blitz.

I'm not sure CBJ will ever run a FB, ever. Wolf is a big guy already. I'd say he'll play here at 6'5" 245-250 easy. I'm hoping he turns into a guy like Joseph Fauria from UCLA last year. A big time red zone threat, and a blocking first TE. I've watched a video of Wolf and he talked about how he liked to be physical and play off the line. He's a big need.
 
I'm not sure CBJ will ever run a FB, ever. Wolf is a big guy already. I'd say he'll play here at 6'5" 245-250 easy. I'm hoping he turns into a guy like Joseph Fauria from UCLA last year. A big time red zone threat, and a blocking first TE. I've watched a video of Wolf and he talked about how he liked to be physical and play off the line. He's a big need.

He already has used a fullback.
 
Overall, I think 247 does a better job ranking players, but I cannot believe 247 has Helm at an 89, 3* (his composite is a 91, 4*). Helm is better than a few guys on 247 that are rated a 90, 4*.

I agree. But 247 hasn't updated his ranking since June. My guess is he gets a nice bump soon.
 
Helms is going to a star TE for us. The way Butch uses TE's wouldn't surprise if Helms is high among or holds a few Vol records when it's all said and done.

SN:Kelce was 6'6 260 @ Cincy
 
Helms is going to a star TE for us. The way Butch uses TE's wouldn't surprise if Helms is high among or holds a few Vol records when it's all said and done.

SN:Kelce was 6'6 260 @ Cincy

Our fans shouldn't lose sight of how important TE is in this class. Helm and Wolf are just as big of a need as DT is in this class, IMO. Downs is coming off a nagging injury (and I doubt he's yet to fully recover). Branisel is a true freshman, and Woody Quinn is not what the spring reports built him up to be. There has been nearly zero production from TEs this year.
 
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