'14 DE WR Neiko Creamer (UT commit 3/11/13)

#751
#751
Daloth said:
I watched the Miami Sugar Bowl online today. If this kid is half the player his dad was we'll be just fine regardless of his rank.
Click to expand...

I watched it a while back too. His dad was all over the field. Quite a difference maker.
 
#752
#752
LebanonVolunteer said:
I say leave the kid at WR. Let him be physical with the undersized DBs trying to cover him. WR screens and watching a 170lb DB try and bring this kid down? Ha! For 6'4 225 he moves very well. I like him on the outside catching passes and YAC. JMO
Click to expand...

Mike Williams comes to mind.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#757
#757
babyavi said:
So does he move to DE or stay at WR? I have a feeling he stays at WR
Click to expand...

It would be silly to move him from WR IMO. The kid has shown he is a star catching the ball. I say leave him on offense. If we need help on defense, recruit/sign defensive guys. I have no doubt the kid will play wherever he is needed as he is all Vol. Offense makes the most sense to me.
 
#760
#760
babyavi said:
So does he move to DE or stay at WR? I have a feeling he stays at WR
Click to expand...

Definitely too early to tell at this point. 6'3 225 and he could still be adding mass. At this point DE, LB, and WR are all valid. Though I'd guess with his size and athleticism, he gets his first look as a speed rushing DE.
 
#761
#761
PassedOutAwake said:
with all of the DEs we got in the '13 class and the few we will get in the '14 class, i think Creamer will be moved to OLB. perfect size and has the speed IMO.
Click to expand...

He's one of the few WR I've seen straight from high school that truly has the frame to be a OLB. He's pretty much 6'3" 225 LBs right now. Shaun phillips is 6'3", runs a 4.69 forty, and weighs 250 LBs. Kevin Burnett is 6'3", runs a 4.58 forty, and weighs 240 LBs. All these guys became pretty good OLBs in college/NFL.
 
#762
#762
Volunteer_Kirby said:
Definitely too early to tell at this point. 6'3 225 and he could still be adding mass. At this point DE, LB, and WR are all valid. Though I'd guess with his size and athleticism, he gets his first look as a speed rushing DE.
Click to expand...

It's not a given to just move a guy around just because he has the size. Some people don't understand that. Every position has a different mentality, especially LB and some guys can't just flip a switch like that.
 
#763
#763
Tennessee Golfer said:
It's not a given to just move a guy around just because he has the size. Some people don't understand that. Every position has a different mentality, especially LB and some guys can't just flip a switch like that.
Click to expand...

i think the reason some people are talking about Creamer moving positions is because Hubbs (i think) said that the coaches were thinking about putting him on the defensive side of the ball
 
#764
#764
keckjm said:
He's one of the few WR I've seen straight from high school that truly has the frame to be a OLB. He's pretty much 6'3" 225 LBs right now. Shaun phillips is 6'3", runs a 4.69 forty, and weighs 250 LBs. Kevin Burnett is 6'3", runs a 4.58 forty, and weighs 240 LBs. All these guys became pretty good OLBs in college/NFL.
Click to expand...

Asking because I am not sure. Did Phillips or Burnett play WR in HS?

CP was 6'2 215lbs, should we have moved him to OLB? I am just not a fan of moving players around. If you need a LB, recruit a LB. If you need a WR, recruit for the position. If you need a Saftey, don't recruit a CB at 5'9 160 hoping to add 30lbs to him. Recruit a S to play S.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#765
#765
Tennessee Golfer said:
It's not a given to just move a guy around just because he has the size. Some people don't understand that. Every position has a different mentality, especially LB and some guys can't just flip a switch like that.
Click to expand...

True, but this is a big kid. Most 6'3" WR in high school are 185 LBs. This kid is already 225 LBs. Would you rather come in as a red zone WR threat who plays situationally, or come in as an OLB who could play every down? It may be in his best interest to attempt the move, or then again he could come in here and prove to be the best WR we have. IDK, but he def has the frame to make the switch if need be.
 
#766
#766
keckjm said:
True, but this is a big kid. Most 6'3" WR in high school are 185 LBs. This kid is already 225 LBs. Would you rather come in as a red zone WR threat who plays situationally, or come in as an OLB who could play every down? It may be in his best interest to attempt the move, or then again he could come in here and prove to be the best WR we have. IDK, but he def has the frame to make the switch if need be.
Click to expand...

Lots of guys have the size. Croom, Megatron, Andre Johnson. Let them stay and be dominate recievers. Why take a guy with a exceptional advantage like his size and speed at WR and stick him at a position where he is just another player?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#767
#767
LebanonVolunteer said:
Asking because I am not sure. Did Phillips or Burnett play WR in HS?

CP was 6'2 215lbs, should we have moved him to OLB? I am just not a fan of moving players around. If you need a LB, recruit a LB. If you need a WR, recruit for the position. If you need a Saftey, don't recruit a CB at 5'9 160 hoping to add 30lbs to him. Recruit a S to play S.
Click to expand...

true to a point , there is film of him playing linebacker/defensive end so its not a stretch for him to end up on defense
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#768
#768
LebanonVolunteer said:
Asking because I am not sure. Did Phillips or Burnett play WR in HS?

CP was 6'2 215lbs, should we have moved him to OLB? I am just not a fan of moving players around. If you need a LB, recruit a LB. If you need a WR, recruit for the position. If you need a Saftey, don't recruit a CB at 5'9 160 hoping to add 30lbs to him. Recruit a S to play S.
Click to expand...
Well... They are recruiting him at ATH. CP has nothing to do with this situation
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#769
#769
LebanonVolunteer said:
Asking because I am not sure. Did Phillips or Burnett play WR in HS?

CP was 6'2 215lbs, should we have moved him to OLB? I am just not a fan of moving players around. If you need a LB, recruit a LB. If you need a WR, recruit for the position. If you need a Saftey, don't recruit a CB at 5'9 160 hoping to add 30lbs to him. Recruit a S to play S.
Click to expand...

CP runs a 4.42 forty this kid runs a 4.6 something forty. Big difference. This kid was talked about being a TE until we landed Helm and Wolf. This isn't a CP type WR. This kid has a very unique situation going for him. There's been many players who have came in to college as a WR/TE and became darn good OLB. Here's some proof of it: Shaun Phillips - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
#770
#770
didnt he say he was going to focus on playing defense this year? so therefore, maybe his primary position will become DE or OLB
 
#771
#771
Tennessee Golfer said:
Lots of guys have the size. Croom, Megatron, Andre Johnson. Let them stay and be dominate recievers. Why take a guy with a exceptional advantage like his size and speed at WR and stick him at a position where he is just another player?
Click to expand...

All of these guys you and others keep mentioning are superior athletes to this kid. Every one of these guys run faster forty times, etc. I'm just telling you guys it a real possibility this kid gets moved to defense, especially if we land Booth, etc.
 
#772
#772
keckjm said:
CP runs a 4.42 forty this kid runs a 4.6 something forty. Big difference. This kid was talked about being a TE until we landed Helm and Wolf. This isn't a CP type WR. This kid has a very unique situation going for him. There's been many players who have came in to college as a WR/TE and became darn good OLB. Here's some proof of it: Shaun Phillips - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Click to expand...

ALOT of WRs in college and the pros do not run 4.4 40's.
 
#773
#773
LebanonVolunteer said:
ALOT of WRs in college and the pros do not run 4.4 40's.
Click to expand...

Right and that has zero to do with my argument I just made. You guys need to realize that CBJs offense is about speed and movement. Travis Kelce runs a 4.5 something forty and played TE for Cincy last year. The rest of their guys were pretty fast guys who played a role. Creamer comes in as a situationally WR. He won't be an every down WR over North, Harris, and Croom who are all superior athletes to him. That's not counting the slot WR that will also play in front of him. We have wasted enough talent here with Dooley as it is. I just want to see the kid have the best opportunity to succeed here, and if it's OLB so be it or if it's WR so be it. I'm just saying if he wants to the see the field as an everyday player in the next 2 years OLB is the way to go for him IMO. Now, I'm done with this pointless argument.
 
#774
#774
Tennessee Golfer said:
Lots of guys have the size. Croom, Megatron, Andre Johnson. Let them stay and be dominate recievers. Why take a guy with a exceptional advantage like his size and speed at WR and stick him at a position where he is just another player?
Click to expand...

If the shoe fits...by all means wear it! But the point is that he has the athletic ability to play multiple positions, which is why he is considered a ... ding ding! ... athlete.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#775
#775
keckjm said:
Right and that has zero to do with my argument I just made. You guys need to realize that CBJs offense is about speed and movement. Travis Kelce runs a 4.5 something forty and played TE for Cincy last year. The rest of their guys were pretty fast guys who played a role. Creamer comes in as a situationally WR. He won't be an every down WR over North, Harris, and Croom who are all superior athletes to him. That's not counting the slot WR that will also play in front of him. We have wasted enough talent here with Dooley as it is. I just want to see the kid have the best opportunity to succeed here, and if it's OLB so be it or if it's WR so be it. I'm just saying if he wants to the see the field as an everyday player in the next 2 years OLB is the way to go for him IMO. Now, I'm done with this pointless argument.
Click to expand...



So it became pointless when everyone did not agree with you? You did not have to respond to the question the poster asked. He asked opinions, and not everyone is going to fall in line behind you because you feel your right. Don't take it so personal.

CBJ took a lot of WRs while at Cinci that ran 4.6's. One class he took 4-5 of them.
 
Last edited:
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top