'14 AL RB Racean Thomas

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TNHopeful505 said:
And yes, I know I forgot Alden Hill and Tom Smith. But I don't see them producing for us.
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What evidence do you have to make the early determination on Hill? Hard to make a statement when you're isolated from the team due to mono. Lets give him a chance to develop some, hopefully he'll contribute
 
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StoVol said:
What evidence do you have to make the early determination on Hill? Hard to make a statement when you're isolated from the team due to mono. Lets give him a chance to develop some, hopefully he'll contribute
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I hope he does. Just haven't heard much about him yet.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Do you think there is any chance we can convince Hurd, Paulk, and Thomas to come to UT?

That would give us some nice depth. Add to Marlin Lane, Jabo Lee and that's 5 quality backs.
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Thomas has stated his interest in AU being so high is because of their depth chart and them telling him they are not going to recruit many RBs.
 
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TideWarrior said:
Thomas has stated his interest in AU being so high is because of their depth chart and them telling him they are not going to recruit many RBs.
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And our depth chart looks any different? I am sure that we are selling him on the same thing. Plus, we already have a stud on board that will help take some of the load off of him. Alabama is not the only team that can play that game, you know.
 
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mreynoldsdvm said:
And our depth chart looks any different? I am sure that we are selling him on the same thing. Plus, we already have a stud on board that will help take some of the load off of him. Alabama is not the only team that can play that game, you know.
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I actually never said anything about UA. I said AU is who he is high on because of no depth. The main reason UA seems to be out is because of depth. Thomas is not interested in sharing the load. Might want to reread what I wrote you know.

The staff top RB on the board is Fournette, who chances are slim, but it has done enough to push Thomas away. And like you said UT just got Hurd which may do the same thing. Thomas wants to be the main RB in a class.
 
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TideWarrior said:
I actually never said anything about UA. I said AU is who he is high on because of no depth. The main reason UA seems to be out is because of depth. Thomas is not interested in sharing the load. Might want to reread what I wrote you know.

The staff top RB on the board is Fournette, who chances are slim, but it has done enough to push Thomas away. And like you said UT just got Hurd which may do the same thing. Thomas wants to be the main RB in a class.
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I kind of feel the same way about Thomas on this one. I think Hurd probably hurts any chance we might of had with this guy.
 
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Vol_sanity said:
I kind of feel the same way about Thomas on this one. I think Hurd probably hurts any chance we might of had with this guy.
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I don't think Hurd committing alone hurts us with Thomas. I think its more a combo of Lane being back next year, Hurd committing and the staff still looking to add another back (3 total most likely).

I wonder if our coaches can work the angle to Rock this weekend, commit and we only take you and Hurd. Or perhaps the fact that if Hurd were to put on a couple more inches/pounds he could be a more effective receiver. Admittedly, this is all pure speculation on my part, but I am not ready to write us off with Thomas yet.
 
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We need to put the press on with this kid too. Very special runner and Bama is crazy for making him No.2 to Fournette. Kid is a much better back for SEC play. We get Thomas I would be more than excited, happy, talking ish, etc.... You get the point. :)
 
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I definitely think Racean Thomas has a lot of interest in Tennessee. Auburn and Georgia appear to have the lead right now. I think the Vols can make up some ground with him. J.R. Sandlin coached at Oxford a few years ago. That's a good connection.
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- Andrew Bone
 
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UTCVol said:
- Andrew Bone
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I am not saying UT does not have a shot, but I would not go by anything Bone says. Remember Bone was the one that reported that Hamilton had no firm offer from UA and UA was not interested in a LB his size. Bone has quickly had to backtrack since every other pay site said different and Hamilton visiting this weekend with the go ahead to commit if he wants to.

Again UT has just as good of a shot as anybody right now but there is at least 20 people on VN I would take their opinions over Bone.
 
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I dont care what the reports are saying , bama is still in it with this kid. This is coming from people in Oxford program, not some info that these so called insiders like Bone are reporting. The kid has known Bama was going to take all these backs a for a while now. He is looking at other options because of some of his immediate family and coaches. They are telling him that the best thing to do is look around because of the depth chart. I cant blame them to be honest.
 
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I was at the 7 on7 camp today and talked to Thomas older brother who was in bama gear,and he indicated that auburn was prob the leader because of the depth at Bama and Ga., and because of the two commits at UT. He was amazing would love to have him here.
 
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JacketVol said:
But, if the kid is doing great in the classroom but not as well on the football field he gets the boot and no education. Maybe they were bad evaluators. Not the kid fault if he is working his butt off in the classroom and on the field and is just not good enough. Problem with college sports is it really is not about working hard in the classroom and getting the education. It is about what you do on the field only and just do enough in class to get by. This is what most coaches care about.
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OHvol40 said:
A coach's job is to do his due diligence, and carefully select the players to represent the program. If a kid fails, a huge part of the onus for that failure is on the coach. The coach should not be allowed to just shrug off any dead weight, it's his duty to do anything possible to help that young man succeed. To do anything less is a failure as a coach, and just pure greed.

If a young man is making the grades to stay in school, his scholarship should be honored. If a football coach "wasted" a scholarship on a player, that is on the coach for using poor judgement.

NCAA football is not a workplace, as you like to refer to it. It is a sport played by students.
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The national LOI works both ways and should be honored by both sides. It is a contract saying that said player is to come to school and participate in class and maintain a certain gpa and participate in the football teams activities. By doing so his education, room, and board are payed for. It does NOT say that if the recruit doesn't "pan out" on the field that you can just drop him like ur 8th grade girlfriend. When you get a loan for a car you can't just say you don't want it anymore and just stop paying on it....the money will still be owed one way or another and its your responsibility because you made the decision to get it.

Edit: sorry OHvol40...was replying to RM20's post you replied to
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Vol865 said:
The national LOI works both ways and should be honored by both sides. It is a contract saying that said player is to come to school and participate in class and maintain a certain gpa and participate in the football teams activities. By doing so his education, room, and board are payed for. It does NOT say that if the recruit doesn't "pan out" on the field that you can just drop him like ur 8th grade girlfriend. When you get a loan for a car you can't just say you don't want it anymore and just stop paying on it....the money will still be owed one way or another and its your responsibility because you made the decision to get it.

Edit: sorry OHvol40...was replying to RM20's post you replied to
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Left out one thing about the LOI it is only a binding contract for one year. No where does it state the school has to offer a scholarship another year no matter how they pan out. So a little different than a car loan. After one year it is up to the staff whether or not to offer another 1 year scholarship. There is nothing stating it has to be renewed.

The issue I have with all this is why the player should be penalized. A school decides not to renew said scholarship the player should be able to transfer to another school without any penalty. But right now players have to sit out 1 year when they transfer to another DI program.

As it is now no one really knows who is deciding to part ways but the fact is the players transfer most of the time to seek more playing time. Meaning he was not going to see the field at current school and by leaving, if not nudged, only opens up a spot for another incoming player. So the school benefits but the player has to sit out a year. That part makes no sense to me.
 
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TideWarrior said:
Left out one thing about the LOI it is only a binding contract for one year. No where does it state the school has to offer a scholarship another year no matter how they pan out. So a little different than a car loan. After one year it is up to the staff whether or not to offer another 1 year scholarship. There is nothing stating it has to be renewed.

The issue I have with all this is why the player should be penalized. A school decides not to renew said scholarship the player should be able to transfer to another school without any penalty. But right now players have to sit out 1 year when they transfer to another DI program.

As it is now no one really knows who is deciding to part ways but the fact is the players transfer most of the time to seek more playing time. Meaning he was not going to see the field at current school and by leaving, if not nudged, only opens up a spot for another incoming player. So the school benefits but the player has to sit out a year. That part makes no sense to me.
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I can agree with this
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TideWarrior said:
Left out one thing about the LOI it is only a binding contract for one year. No where does it state the school has to offer a scholarship another year no matter how they pan out. So a little different than a car loan. After one year it is up to the staff whether or not to offer another 1 year scholarship. There is nothing stating it has to be renewed.

The issue I have with all this is why the player should be penalized. A school decides not to renew said scholarship the player should be able to transfer to another school without any penalty. But right now players have to sit out 1 year when they transfer to another DI program.
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This is why there is no problem with competing schools pointing out to potential recruits when a program makes these types of roster moves more frequently than others. That way they can make an informed decision.
 
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