'13 GA DT Robert Nkemdiche

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palmer103 said:
I'm a Clemson fan, and I really hope Dabo doesn't offer this Carter kid. If this is a dealbreaker, then so be it, I wish theme the best at Ole Miss.

With that, I have no problem with what we have done so far. You really need to break it down player by player, to get a full understanding of what's going on.

Gallman is a very talented back, with many good D1 offers (Auburn, UGA, GT, USCe), and shouldn't be lumped into this Grayson package deal talk. He also isn't near as close to RN as Kamara, Carter, or the Miss St transfer. No matter what those 4 decide to do, I have no doubt Gallman stays true to his Clemson verbal.

Kamara is realistically probably a lower end D1 prospect. Someone that would fit right in at a Vandy, Wake, kentucky, etc. It isn't the biggest reach to offer him, and if it helps with RN, I'm perfectly fine with it. Dabo always reaches on 1-2 prospects every year anyways (DJ Greenlee is another one this year, rated way lower than Kamara), so at least this one helps us with the best recruit in the country.

The QB transfer is not going to be given a scholarship, so I really could care less about him. He's not going to get close to the 3 deep anytime soon, so I don't see him ever earning a scholarship. We are in a great position right now at QB, with Chad Kelly coming in this year and Deshaun Watson coming in next year. Look for Watson to be one of, if not the top player from Georgia next year.

Carter is the dealbreaker to me. If for no other reason than the principality of it all. Can't have him coming on campus thinking he is calling the shots and is bigger than the team. I will be very disappointed in Dabo if he is offered a scholarship. Would rather lose RN, Kamara, and the walk-on QB than give in to his demands.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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That was way too intelligent...no way you're a Clemson fan :)
 
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TideWarrior said:
What would CDD do to get the #1 recruit and what would UT fans be alright with?

RN to Clemson and brings

Gallman a solid 3 star and DI quality
Kamara a low 3 star with Ole Miss as best offer
Schuessler formerly commited to MSU and best offer now walking on at Clemson with hope for a scholarship next year.

So Clemson brings them i to lock up RN, but hold on. Now RN states he is waiting on another team mate S Ryan Carter and says if that happens he will be locked up to Clemson. Who btw is a 2 star with Ole Miss being his best offer. If you notice Ole Miss with all of them because that tried to do the same thing but Clemson beat them out.

“I am waiting on Clemson to offer Ryan; when that happens, it’s locked … it’s a done deal … it’s over,” Robert Nkemdiche told the AJC

Robert Nkemdiche: Clemson is “done deal” if they offer another Grayson teammate | AJC College Sports Recruiting

Is one player worth that and would your team be alright giving up 3 or 4 scholarships for players that probably at best be ST or depth players?
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This really shouldn't bother me but it does.

Who the F does RN think he is, Dwight Williams? I'm all about following recruiting but the attention these kids get these days is turning some of them into Divas before they've done anything on a real football field. High school glory doesn't mean a damn thing when you get to the SEC.

No way is one scholarship worth burning 2-3...b/c of the four, there's a VERY good possibility that only one succeeds.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
This really shouldn't bother me but it does.

Who the F does RN think he is, Dwight Williams? I'm all about following recruiting but the attention these kids get these days is turning some of them into Divas before they've done anything on a real football field. High school glory doesn't mean a damn thing when you get to the SEC.

No way is one scholarship worth burning 2-3...b/c of the four, there's a VERY good possibility that only one succeeds.
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It seems more CU fans agree with your sentiment than supprt it. RN though has been this way during the whole recruiting. He has always been very high on himself and seems to think he found a place where it will be tolerated. I am curious to how Dabo handles this and it has be out of the public or it could get real messy for everyone involved.

Now I could understand if the 4 were Foster, Mathews, Wiggins, and Kamara who have said if they could they would all play together. But not these 4.
 
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TideWarrior said:
It seems more CU fans agree with your sentiment than supprt it. RN though has been this way during the whole recruiting. He has always been very high on himself and seems to think he found a place where it will be tolerated. I am curious to how Dabo handles this and it has be out of the public or it could get real messy for everyone involved.

Now I could understand if the 4 were Foster, Mathews, Wiggins, and Kamara who have said if they could they would all play together. But not these 4.
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The real question is, when recruits are allowed to dictate their own terms with their respective college or university, how do the coaches coach that player?

Its a Pandora's box, IMO. Yeah, RN might listen to them at first but after the "newness" wears off, he's going to tune them out.

That's all College Football needs is a bunch of Terrell Owens wanna-be's.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
The real question is, when recruits are allowed to dictate their own terms with their respective college or university, how do the coaches coach that player?

Its a Pandora's box, IMO. Yeah, RN might listen to them at first but after the "newness" wears off, he's going to tune them out.

That's all College Football needs is a bunch of Terrell Owens wanna-be's.
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Clemson may have a few extra scrubs on the bench but look at the national attention they got when RN commited to them. Not attacking you just making a point. Recruits took notice.
 
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TideWarrior said:
It seems more CU fans agree with your sentiment than supprt it. RN though has been this way during the whole recruiting. He has always been very high on himself and seems to think he found a place where it will be tolerated. I am curious to how Dabo handles this and it has be out of the public or it could get real messy for everyone involved.

Now I could understand if the 4 were Foster, Mathews, Wiggins, and Kamara who have said if they could they would all play together. But not these 4.
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Agree, it will be interesting to see how Dabo handles it. Clemson fans are pretty much 100% fine with the way things are now with RN's recruitment. The only thing we've done is offer 1 so-so guy (Kamara), but like I stated above, Dabo signs at least 2 borderline guys every year regardless.

As of now, nothing has really changed. It's just a little disappointing to see RN take this to the media. This could be a last ditch effort by him to try and get his boy a scholarship. You would have to think he has probably brought this up internally, and just didn't get the answer he was looking for.

I would be very surprised, and in turn disappointed, to see an offer extended to Carter.
 
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Personal opinion, but I don't care who the player is.....coaches should not let them dictate to this extent.

I know it happens all the time, but sorry, it is wrong IMO. Creating Prima Donas at 17-18 years old.
 
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palmer103 said:
Agree, it will be interesting to see how Dabo handles it. Clemson fans are pretty much 100% fine with the way things are now with RN's recruitment. The only thing we've done is offer 1 so-so guy (Kamara), but like I stated above, Dabo signs at least 2 borderline guys every year regardless.

As of now, nothing has really changed. It's just a little disappointing to see RN take this to the media. This could be a last ditch effort by him to try and get his boy a scholarship. You would have to think he has probably brought this up internally, and just didn't get the answer he was looking for.

I would be very surprised, and in turn disappointed, to see an offer extended to Carter.
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Do you think there is any chance you all could go ahead and offer Barnes too? Might as well get the whole Grayson defense.
 
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palmer103 said:
Just an FYI, the only team that has offers out to all the players in question is an SEC team, Ole Miss.
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Of course.. Freeze is brand new to the SEC and head coaching in general.. What better way to make a splash than to sign the #1 player in the country? ... Reminds me of a certain ex head coach... Freeze is willing to do whatever it takes to grab a headline.. Ole miss needs it..
 
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orangeblood79 said:
This really shouldn't bother me but it does.

Who the F does RN think he is, Dwight Williams? I'm all about following recruiting but the attention these kids get these days is turning some of them into Divas before they've done anything on a real football field. High school glory doesn't mean a damn thing when you get to the SEC.

No way is one scholarship worth burning 2-3...b/c of the four, there's a VERY good possibility that only one succeeds.
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Like Bruce Pearl said, id rather sign em all and them burn me than not sign em, and they burn me down the road.. Dont remember kids names, but the kid he wouldn't give a scholarship to went on to be the d3 all time leading scorer, and the stud did really well too.
 
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Article from Yahoo about the scholarship ordeal at Clemson. Looks like RN called their bluff when they said his buddy Carter was at the top of their board, and he'll look elsewhere if they don't back that up with an offer. Of course that's his story, but this is pretty bad press for Clemson, IMO.

Top recruit threatens to look elsewhere if Clemson doesn
 
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#622
The interesting part is he looks to have been sneaking a visit later today to UA. Atleast according to D Henry's tweet yesterday. But part of it got erased quickly but not quickly enough that it made its rounds first.

Derrick Henry@KingHenry_2
@Robertusmagna_1 Aye bruh DM me

1h robert nkemdiche @Robertusmagna_1
@KingHenry_2 whats up boy?

1h Derrick Henry@KingHenry_2
@Robertusmagna_1 You coming to Bama tomorrow ?
 
#623
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Apparantly parents and him met with the Ole Miss staff. CU fans say he is just visiting to see his brother but thsi pic from today suggest otherwise.

Robert-Nkemdiche-at-Ole-Miss.JPG
 
#625
#625
Let him go to ole miss. One guy can't put Ws on the stat sheet. One guy isn't going to change the direction of that program.
 
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