'13 FL CB Vernon Hargreaves III (FL Commit)

[volfan0320]

Okay so say we reload with a veteran line leading the way on O. Our skill players will look like this:

RBs: 4th year Neal, 3rd year Lane, 3rd year D.Young, 3rd year Tom Smith, 2nd year Bourque, 2nd year Alden Hill, and 2nd Watson.

WRs: CP, J.Croom, Pig Howard, and Drae Bowles at the top. We'll be a bit thin there.

We'll get better than decent QB play(probably better than your QBs).

Our defense will be fun in 2013 though 3rd year AJ and Maggitt playing behind McCullers, Sentimore, Couch, T.Taylor, and O'Brien up front. 3rd year Jordan Williams off the edge and the secondary will be mature with Randolph, Coleman, Bonner, and Moore leading the way. With Tino Thomas, McNeil, Orta, and Daniel Gray providing quality depth back there. 6th year and hopefully healthy Herman Lathers will help with the lack of LB depth. But C.Harris, Bynum, D.Sapp, and J.King should be able to help in some capacity. Keep thinking blowout if you want HG. End up on the wrong end of one next year.

Has Lathers already got his waiver for another year?

 

[volfrk86]

Has Lathers already got his waiver for another year?

I hope so if that is the case UT could have four Linebackers, Brian Randolph, and maybe Walls and Couch all go into the NFL next year if the defense comes together like it should. Also look for Justin Coleman to make a run for the draft to IMo

 

[volfan0320]

I hope so if that is the case UT could have four Linebackers, Brian Randolph, and maybe Walls and Couch all go into the NFL next year if the defense comes together like it should. Also look for Justin Coleman to make a run for the draft to IMo

I think a lot of people forgot what impact Lathers had on our d. I hope he can stay healthy this year bc.we need him in a big way

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Debose and Pittman will be a solid...your WR and RB won't beat our D. JMO without your trio UT's O will be average at best heading in '13. Say what you like about Bosie system it's one of the hardest to gameplan for. Ask UGA, Bama and Okie.

Tough to play against with an excellent orchestrator (Kellen Moore). You dont have one. Florida is bad on offense. No play makers. No quarterback. Debose is good if you leave him open (like Kirkpatrick last year). Doubt we will though. Urban left because the team sucked. It is largely the same team, minus Demps and Rainey, or the entire offense. Good luck with that.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Kellen Moore was great at reading coverages and manipulating safeties. Do your qb's know the offense yet? Let alone defensive coverages. Timmy ain't walking through that tunnel anymore Gators.

 

[HialeahGator]

Tough to play against with an excellent orchestrator (Kellen Moore). You dont have one. Florida is bad on offense. No play makers. No quarterback. Debose is good if you leave him open (like Kirkpatrick last year). Doubt we will though. Urban left because the team sucked. It is largely the same team, minus Demps and Rainey, or the entire offense. Good luck with that.

So bad that we beat you the last 2w years w/o playmakers. LOL @ Debose vs Kirkpatrick, Debose ran right behind him. Yes the S miss the coverage but that happens many times on long TD passes. It's funny you keep pointing out all the holes at UF by overlooking all UT's holes. But I understand bc I look at your D and ST the way you look at UF's O so I guess we'll see who's right in Sept. :salute:

 

[The Breakerboy]

I hope so if that is the case UT could have four Linebackers, Brian Randolph, and maybe Walls and Couch all go into the NFL next year if the defense comes together like it should. Also look for Justin Coleman to make a run for the draft to IMo

Hold up let's see what they do this year before we put them in the draft.

 

[The Breakerboy]

So bad that we beat you the last 2w years w/o playmakers. LOL @ Debose vs Kirkpatrick, Debose ran right behind him. Yes the S miss the coverage but that happens many times on long TD passes. It's funny you keep pointing out all the holes at UF by overlooking all UT's holes. But I understand bc I look at your D and ST the way you look at UF's O so I guess we'll see who's right in Sept. :salute:

Can't Wait!!!!!

 

[shelbyvillevol]

So bad that we beat you the last 2w years w/o playmakers. LOL @ Debose vs Kirkpatrick, Debose ran right behind him. Yes the S miss the coverage but that happens many times on long TD passes. It's funny you keep pointing out all the holes at UF by overlooking all UT's holes. But I understand bc I look at your D and ST the way you look at UF's O so I guess we'll see who's right in Sept. :salute:

Demps and Rainey definitely qualify as playmakers. They were matchup nightmares for out linebackers. Demps/Rainey vs. Austin Johnson/AJ Johnson = Very Bad News

 

[HialeahGator]

Can't Wait!!!!!

I'm going to the game this year. :dance:

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

So bad that we beat you the last 2w years w/o playmakers. LOL @ Debose vs Kirkpatrick, Debose ran right behind him. Yes the S miss the coverage but that happens many times on long TD passes. It's funny you keep pointing out all the holes at UF by overlooking all UT's holes. But I understand bc I look at your D and ST the way you look at UF's O so I guess we'll see who's right in Sept. :salute:

Florida has not beaten anyone sans Tebow (let alone us). I say we blew both games. You needed a fake punt for momentum in 2010 (Urbs saw the writing on the wall after that one). Last year was a joke. Pass interference city!!!!!! Who is the Florida offense built around this year? Our defense is NOT outmatched anywhere by Florida's offense. If you guys win this one..........

 

[HialeahGator]

Florida has not beaten anyone sans Tebow (let alone us). I say we blew both games. You needed a fake punt for momentum in 2010 (Urbs saw the writing on the wall after that one). Last year was a joke. Pass interference city!!!!!! Who is the Florida offense built around this year? Our defense is NOT outmatched anywhere by Florida's offense. If you guys win this one..........

come on dude have more pride than that... LOL @ the fake punt being the only reason UF won. UT lost those games because you rushed for 29 yards and -11 in '10/'11. UT was also 5 for 26 on 3rd downs in those games. Not even talking about your ST. IF your running game doesn't improve you won't beat many SEC teams.

 

[The Waco Kid]

So Hargreaves.............

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

come on dude have more pride than that... LOL @ the fake punt being the only reason UF won. UT lost those games because you rushed for 29 yards and -11 in '10/'11. UT was also 5 for 26 on 3rd downs in those games. Not even talking about your ST. IF your running game doesn't improve you won't beat many SEC teams.

But bro, why are you so mad?

 

[Ron Swanson]

I like how HG's getting his shots in now. He knows the gators are going to lose this time. Get all the talk in while you can, gators!

And it's funny you think UT won't be any good if the big 3 go pro, we'll be just fine with Worley, Peterman, Ferguson and our other stud WR's from the 2012 class; Croom, Pig, Bowles and Patterson will pick up the slack just fine. And if Bray, Hunter and Rogers DO go pro that means UT had a really good year, so most Vol fans will take it without a second thought. And recruiting at UT will blow up if the Vols have the kind of year that sends those guys to the NFL...going to be an exciting fall for Vol fans.

But back to your talking...you've got a few more months before you won't have much to say anymore

 

[HialeahGator]

I like how HG's getting his shots in now. He knows the gators are going to lose this time. Get all the talk in while you can, gators!

And it's funny you think UT won't be any good if the big 3 go pro, we'll be just fine with Worley, Peterman, Ferguson and our other stud WR's from the 2012 class; Croom, Pig, Bowles and Patterson will pick up the slack just fine. And if Bray, Hunter and Rogers DO go pro that means UT had a really good year, so most Vol fans will take it without a second thought. And recruiting at UT will blow up if the Vols have the kind of year that sends those guys to the NFL...going to be an exciting fall for Vol fans.

But back to your talking...you've got a few more months before you won't have much to say anymore

I was trying to get back on topic 3 pages back...I never said UF would win this game. I said that if UT doesn't win this game UF could get to 10 wins in a row. Losing Bray and the WR will be a lot to overcome. It's funny that people keep talking about what Croom,Pig etc will do before even taking one SEC snap. I could go on and on about UF recruiting class from last year and next but until the suit up they aren't a factor imo.

 

[Ron Swanson]

I was trying to get back on topic 3 pages back...I never said UF would win this game. I said that if UT doesn't win this game UF could get to 10 wins in a row. Losing Bray and the WR will be a lot to overcome. It's funny that people keep talking about what Croom,Pig etc will do before even taking one SEC snap. I could go on and on about UF recruiting class from last year and next but until the suit up they aren't a factor imo.

It's just as funny how you say UT will fall apart if Bray and Co go pro before these guys take one SEC snap.

 

[The Breakerboy]

I'm going to the game this year. :dance:

I'll see you there hopefully. And I'll be singing Rocky Top all night long. Let's Go!!!!! :clapping:

 

[HialeahGator]

It's just as funny how you say UT will fall apart if Bray and Co go pro before these guys take one SEC snap.

my statement was UT better win this year bc IF Bray and company jumped UF could get the streak to 10.

Wonder what the excuses will be after a win this year. Because the Tebow, trick play and injury things is getting old.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Yall better win this year bc if not UF will run the streak to 10 before you know it.

OK keep thinking that..UT has a number of guys that could jump ship. Going into the Swamp next w/o Bray,Hunter and DR is a blowout waiting to happen. Better win this one.

my statement was UT better win this year bc IF Bray and company jumped UF could get the streak to 10.

Wonder what the excuses will be after a win this year. Because the Tebow, trick play and injury things is getting old.

That's what you said. W/o Bray, Hunter and DR UT is going to get blown out in gainesville in 2013. So you're making assumptions that Bowles, Croom, Pig and Patterson won't be good enough in year 2 at UT before they take an SEC snap. That's just as funny as some UT fans saying they will be beasts. Right?

No excuses, Vols are going to win this September.

 

[LynxVol]

my statement was UT better win this year bc IF Bray and company jumped UF could get the streak to 10.

Wonder what the excuses will be after a win this year. Because the Tebow, trick play and injury things is getting old.

 

[HialeahGator]

That's what you said. W/o Bray, Hunter and DR UT is going to get blown out in gainesville in 2013. So you're making assumptions that Bowles, Croom, Pig and Patterson won't be good enough in year 2 at UT before they take an SEC snap. That's just as funny as some UT fans saying they will be beasts. Right?

No excuses, Vols are going to win this September.

But at the same time you are making assumptions that UF doesn't have any playmakers w/o rainey or demps but you believe UT has all these playmakers in waiting.

 

[The Breakerboy]

But at the same time you are making assumptions that UF doesn't have any playmakers w/o rainey or demps but you believe UT has all these playmakers in waiting.

HG come on now. Your Wrs won't be better than ours even when Da'Rick and Hunter leave. Don't kid yourself. Debose is a KR man. He's no where near Rainey as a playmaker.

 

[HialeahGator]

HG come on now. Your Wrs won't be better than ours even when Da'Rick and Hunter leave. Don't kid yourself. Debose is a KR man. He's no where near Rainey as a playmaker.

based on what? You better take a look at Debose, Pittman, Dunbar before you put on the shades and say that Croom, Pig and Browles are better WR. Throw in Taylor and AC in the slot at HBack... I agree that CP is a freak but I can't name many Juco WR that have had that impact you are assuming he's going to have. W/o Hunter and DR UT isn't a better unit than UF.

 

[The Waco Kid]

I think that is part of HG's point.................you guys are showing supreme confidence on beating, and beating bad, a team you haven't beaten in 7 years, and some are acting like it's a foregone conclusion.