'13 FL ATH Lemond Johnson (UT Commit 12/16/12)

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volbeast33 said:
I don't care if our roster is full of five stars or one stars.......I care about winning......something kiffin has yet to do at USC.
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The difference is that if Kiffin had been here last three years going 7-5 but pulling in the top athletes, we'd have a much higher probability of getting a proven coach to take over when Kiffin got canned.
 
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Serenadium51 said:
Highlights

Anyone who hasn't seen the catch at the beginning of this vid needs to watch it, it's pretty awesome.

[Youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBl36nwdnf0[/Youtube]
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That's one of the best catches I have seen on a highschool highlight video.
 
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Unimane said:
You trust him because that's all we've got for the next 4 or so years. He's not a "proven winner", he's a proven decent coach in a terrible league without a particularly prominent or important win under his belt. I'm just not going to fall under the same delusion that you all do every single time we make a hire.

Meaning, the last guy was terrible, this guy is who we need, he's "wants to be here" (probably the dumbest justification of them all), he really knows how to evaluate that unknown talent (Where did I hear that before? and so on and so on.

I really hope Johnson is the next coming of Donta Hightower and Jones is going to prove something that he's never done before and win at a high level with a program he built. I'm not buying the rainbows and sunshine, though, until it happens, especially when I've heard this same song and dance before.
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He has won everywhere he's been so far including a conference championship and coach of the year honors over Charlie Strong while at Cincinnati. I know it was in the big east but every coach has to pay his dues by starting at the bottom and work his way up.

You say that you hope he does something he has never done before by winning at a high level. But how was he supposed to have won at a high level before now? As this will be the first time he has coached at a high level program. It seems like you want him to have done something that was impossible by beating teams that were not in his conference or on his schedule.

He did as well as could have done to this point by winning consistently throughout the season, winning conference championships, getting his team to bowl games, and also being named the coach of year in his conference at both of his previous stops. I'm not sure what else you realistically expected of him and how you can say that he has not been a proven winner at every program that he's had the chance to coach at.

I'm not saying he's going to be the person who brings Tennessee back to where we should be becaue I don know what he will be able to do in the SEC anymore than you do. But I'm going to support him and give the man a chance to prove himself without throwing him under bus for coaching in the big east before he got the chance to coach in a major conference.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
You have no idea.
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I will continue to disagree. A lot of the posters trashing Dooley's recruiting have spent the last 2-3 years talking about what a good evaluator he was. Saying that Dooley didn't recruit well is totally revisionist. You all know the climate he was recruiting in and the obstacles he was up against - given those, he did a good job bringing in talent and stabilizing the roster.

The 2013 class wasn't coming together well, but I think that's a combination of poor coaching leading to underwhelming on-field results, aggressive negative recruiting, and Sal.

Give credit it where it's due. Dooley had some major failings as a head coach, but if we're competitive next year, it's in part thanks to Dooley.
 
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volinexile17 said:
I will continue to disagree. A lot of the posters trashing Dooley's recruiting have spent the last 2-3 years talking about what a good evaluator he was. Saying that Dooley didn't recruit well is totally revisionist. You all know the climate he was recruiting in and the obstacles he was up against - given those, he did a good job bringing in talent and stabilizing the roster.

The 2013 class wasn't coming together well, but I think that's a combination of poor coaching leading to underwhelming on-field results, aggressive negative recruiting, and Sal.

Give credit it where it's due. Dooley had some major failings as a head coach, but if we're competitive next year, it's in part thanks to Dooley.
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You can go back and look at my posts. I've always been critical of Dooley's recruiting.
 
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Future Vols Lemond Johnson, Jalen Reeves-Maybin w/Butch Jones "@4s_up_4sdown: S/O to my boy lemond! Newest vol commit! http://t.co/K982yyrI"
 
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volinexile17 said:
I will continue to disagree. A lot of the posters trashing Dooley's recruiting have spent the last 2-3 years talking about what a good evaluator he was. Saying that Dooley didn't recruit well is totally revisionist. You all know the climate he was recruiting in and the obstacles he was up against - given those, he did a good job bringing in talent and stabilizing the roster.

The 2013 class wasn't coming together well, but I think that's a combination of poor coaching leading to underwhelming on-field results, aggressive negative recruiting, and Sal.

Give credit it where it's due. Dooley had some major failings as a head coach, but if we're competitive next year, it's in part thanks to Dooley.
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If dooley was such a great evaluator of talent then why did we go 5-7 this year? Moving Teague to corner and keeping Devrin as punt returner instead of CP showed he had no idea what he was doing. Not to mention benching Bray against Vandy. Dooley was one of the worst coaches in SEC history.
 
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Serenadium51 said:
If dooley was such a great evaluator of talent then why did we go 5-7 this year? Moving Teague to corner and keeping Devrin as punt returner instead of CP showed he had no idea what he was doing. Not to mention benching Bray against Vandy. Dooley was one of the worst coaches in SEC history.
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You can be a good evaluator of talent and be a bad coach. You mentioned a couple of ways he wasn't a great coach, but I think we have SEC talent on the team.
 
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UTMark said:
You can be a good evaluator of talent and be a bad coach. You mentioned a couple of ways he wasn't a great coach, but I think we have SEC talent on the team.
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If he were a great evaluator of talent then we wouldn't have lost to Mizzou or had to go to OT against Troy. Dooley recruited players that are too slow for this league.
 
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Serenadium51 said:
If he were a great evaluator of talent then we wouldn't have lost to Mizzou or had to go to OT against Troy. Dooley recruited players that are too slow for this league.
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lot could be attributed to the scheme. we had a good defense the year before under wilcox with those players.

defense will be a lot better in 2013
 
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Serenadium51 said:
If he were a great evaluator of talent then we wouldn't have lost to Mizzou or had to go to OT against Troy. Dooley recruited players that are too slow for this league.
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Or he made a bad career decision by hiring Sunseri.
 
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Serenadium51 said:
Or he couldn't evaluate talent, there was no reason to move Teague to corner or not allow CP to return punts. Don't forget his expert evaluation of Palardy and Darr.
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palardy had offers from bama, arkansas, auburn, lsu, miami, stanford.

crap job by dooley there. recruiting kickers and punters is just a crap shoot.
 
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005 said:
palardy had offers from bama, arkansas, auburn, lsu, miami, stanford.

crap job by dooley there. recruiting kickers and punters is just a crap shoot.
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So dooley didn't do a great job evaluating him did he? He just offered him based on his ranking.
 
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