'12 TN ATH Brian Kimbrow (Vandy Commit)

Who will Kimbrow choose?

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#1,451
#1,451
I heard they want to go to Vandy because the attendance at the games are comparable to their high school games.
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#1,457
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mlsoft said:
Really bad analogy. You have to have at least 10-12 top quality O-Line in the pipeline at all times but that is not even remotely the case for a small return burner who plays a very limited number of snaps every game. The O-Line positions have to be manned by high quality players every snap of every game. No comparison at all.

And you are correct that D Young has not proven that he can fill the role that we supposedly are recruiting Kimbrow for -- but then again, neither has Kimbrow, who has yet to play his senior season. At least they have had a chance to see D Young on the field the past few weeks, which is more than you can say about Kimbrow.

What I can say with utmost confidence is that we will not mourn the loss of Kimbrow -- maybe this board will, but the staff will not. I have said since long before all of this came up that Kimbrow made no sense and that I doubted that we were seriously pursuing him. If you take a step back, and look at the whole thing logically, that is the only answer that makes the whole Kimbrow story make sense (like why has he never given UT any consideration?? -- it is because we told him up front that we really could not use him) and it is the only answer that fits the true facts on the ground. We have far greater needs than Kimbrow.

The problem is that too many here have become personally invested in Kimbrow regardless of the facts. It then becomes a matter of ego.

mlsoft
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You'll notice that I amended the analogy to slot receiver. Still not perfect, but enough to get the point across.

I'm not sure where you're going with the "Kimbrow isn't proven" point. No high school recruit at any position is proven at a college level. Yet we keep recruiting them.

I'm not disagreeing that the staff is backing off of Kimbrow. But it's not because of Devrin Young. There's no position on the field, save perhaps kicker/punter (we did recruit Darr after we already had Palardy locked up at punter) where you stop pursuing a guy because you have one other guy on the roster who can fill the role.

Your position would be much more credible if you didn't make this about DY.
 
#1,458
#1,458
Get this straight dude Kimbrow is better than Young and it's not as close as you put it. Don't know what happened with his recruitment but it had nothing to do with Young.
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Incipient said:
You'll notice that I amended the analogy to slot receiver. Still not perfect, but enough to get the point across.

I'm not sure where you're going with the "Kimbrow isn't proven" point. No high school recruit at any position is proven at a college level. Yet we keep recruiting them.

I'm not disagreeing that the staff is backing off of Kimbrow. But it's not because of Devrin Young. There's no position on the field, save perhaps kicker/punter (we did recruit Darr after we already had Palardy locked up at punter) where you stop pursuing a guy because you have one other guy on the roster who can fill the role.

Your position would be much more credible if you didn't make this about DY.
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The "Kimbrow isn't proven" point was merely a rebuttal to a point made in numerous posts saying that D Young is not a "proven" commodity. My response was that he is at a bare minimum at least as proven as Kimbrow -- they can't have it both ways. At least D Young is in school and the coaches and his teammates have had a chance to watch him in person. Kimbrow has another year to go in high school. Perhaps this longer period of evaluation of Young (out the window, of course, cough, cough) is when they confirmed for themselves that they no longer needed to chase after Kimbrow.

The fallacy of your second point is that there is no position on a football team called "very small but speedy return specialist who also runs an occasional two or three plays a game". That is not a position, it is a description. Kimbrow is loosely called a running back but if we are honest about it we all know that he will not be used often in that capacity. First, he would get killed as a frequent RB, not to mention that he would be roadkill trying to pick up bull rushes or blitzes in the backfield or blocking SEC linbackers. He would be totally ineffective at either task. He is known to be poor at catching passes (which makes me wonder how well he will do catching punts/kickoffs) so his primary position responsibilities will be what??

Finally, what does Kimbrow really add to our team that D Young does not?? Kimbrow is perhaps a little faster, but Young is a little more elusive. Young also is pretty good at catching the ball, which Kimbrow is not. Like Kimbrow, Young will also not be a normal running back, which just highlights the fact that we do not need two of them on the team at a time when we are in serious need at a number of other positions.

As I have said many times, I am not saying that Kimbrow is not a good football player -- he is. I am just pointing out that for what little additional gains he brings to our team over and above Young, he is not worth using one of our scholarships that could be used to much greater advantage on the D-Line or LB, for instance.

mlsoft
 
#1,461
#1,461
mlsoft said:
The "Kimbrow isn't proven" point was merely a rebuttal to a point made in numerous posts saying that D Young is not a "proven" commodity. My response was that he is at a bare minimum at least as proven as Kimbrow -- they can't have it both ways. At least D Young is in school and the coaches and his teammates have had a chance to watch him in person. Kimbrow has another year to go in high school. Perhaps this longer period of evaluation of Young (out the window, of course, cough, cough) is when they confirmed for themselves that they no longer needed to chase after Kimbrow.

The fallacy of your second point is that there is no position on a football team called "very small but speedy return specialist who also runs an occasional two or three plays a game". That is not a position, it is a description. Kimbrow is loosely called a running back but if we are honest about it we all know that he will not be used often in that capacity. First, he would get killed as a frequent RB, not to mention that he would be roadkill trying to pick up bull rushes or blitzes in the backfield or blocking SEC linbackers. He would be totally ineffective at either task. He is known to be poor at catching passes (which makes me wonder how well he will do catching punts/kickoffs) so his primary position responsibilities will be what??

Finally, what does Kimbrow really add to our team that D Young does not?? Kimbrow is perhaps a little faster, but Young is a little more elusive. Young also is pretty good at catching the ball, which Kimbrow is not. Like Kimbrow, Young will also not be a normal running back, which just highlights the fact that we do not need two of them on the team at a time when we are in serious need at a number of other positions.

As I have said many times, I am not saying that Kimbrow is not a good football player -- he is. I am just pointing out that for what little additional gains he brings to our team over and above Young, he is not worth using one of our scholarships that could be used to much greater advantage on the D-Line or LB, for instance.

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Kimbrow can catch, where is it stated he can't? Dude he's the MVP at every camp and combine for a reason. He doesn't have to shake as much as Young because he's a bit faster. Plus his style of running is better for RB than Young. He plays a lot better downhill than Young. And he eats up yards a lot faster than Young. I really wanted to add him to this class. He's a matchup problem for LBs in the passing game. And running behind a big line like we have would be perfect for him to hide behind.
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#1,462
#1,462
(*I'm SO gonna get hammered for this*)


Personally, I'm sick of all the drama surrounding BK, and wish him well at Vanderbilt.


Now, we can focus on recruiting Barry Junior......who is a miles better back than Kimbrow, IMHO
 
#1,463
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DeusExMachina said:
(*I'm SO gonna get hammered for this*)


Personally, I'm sick of all the drama surrounding BK, and wish him well at Vanderbilt.


Now, we can focus on recruiting Barry Junior......who is a miles better back than Kimbrow, IMHO
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I agree with this statement. Its like overkill with BK.
 
#1,469
#1,469
I think guys like Kimbrow will be so excited about committing to Vandy and being the first to turn things around there...until they run out on the field and see 30,000 people there and then think "what the HELL was I thinking?"
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PennVol said:
I think guys like Kimbrow will be so excited about committing to Vandy and being the first to turn things around there...until they run out on the field and see 30,000 people there and then think "what the HELL was I thinking?"
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30,000?? Must be senior citizen 1/2 off ticket day.
 
#1,474
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LynxVol said:
D Young is not BK. Discussion over. We did not stop recruiting BK because of D Young. Discussion over. I'm glad I could clear that up for everyone.
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Doubt too many people thought this. If that was the case we wouldn't have started recruiting him or recruiting other similar backs.He's not going to make or break our class in any way.
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#1,475
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bornbleedinorange said:
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Which is why these crazy posters in this thread need to chill out. We have no shot at Sanders Jr. point blank period. All this Kimbrow is not that good stuff is bull. The boy is a very good player with tremendous speed. His style of play is good for the SEC seeing that he doesn't dance around like Young. Who some of you say are close to him in ability. I hope Young runs back a few punts for TDs for us. But he's not anywhere near Kimbrow's level.
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