'11 MS JUCO DB Izauea Lanier (Tennessee Commit)

Moore is the 1 corner from the jump.
Waggner is the nickel corner.

Our secondary
Janzen S
Brewer S
Moore CB
Lanier CB
Waggner nickel.

For some reason people seem not to be getting the message. The staff measured the existing CBs last season and they were found WANTING. That is the entire reason you used scholarships on two JUCO CBs.

That seems like a pretty sollid 2ndary. I think Lanier will start from day 1 too. I doubt he's grossly overweight so 2 and a half months of working out should have him ready by Montana. I'd love to see Coleman push him for the position tho. I like our D so much more from last year. Excited to see the "Calvary" rep UT!
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Can't be. Poole's cutting ability isn't good enough for the SEC. He will only be average.
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He could be talking about leadership and work ethic. Poole isnt going to impress anybody on the football field unless hes found some vision and burst between now and the Music City Bowl. Anything is possible.
 
Can't be. Poole's cutting ability isn't good enough for the SEC. He will only be average.
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He could be talking about leadership and work ethic. Poole isnt going to impress anybody on the football field unless hes found some vision and burst between now and the Music City Bowl. Anything is possible.

Yeah... you are right. You've finally convinced me. Guys without speed, vision, burst, cutting ability, power, quickness, etc routinely have 1000+ yds, six 100 yd games, and a 5 ypc avg vs the SEC and NC runner up while running behind a patchwork OL that started 5 different Fr at one point or another, one JUCO transfer, one RS Soph, and a Sr who in 09 was beaten out by the Sullins bros. It doesn't matter that there was no passing threat for most of the season either to prevent D's from keying on the one productive RB. It certainly doesn't matter that the team was in the first year of their 3rd or 4th offensive scheme in as many years.

Your an absolute genius at evaluating "talent". I know that because only an evaluator with superhuman skill could see through all that production given all those obstacles and recognize that Poole just isn't any good.
 
Poole clearly isn't one the best backs UT's had for awhile, but I don't agree with all his critics being only average. Lots of opposing fans I know and have watched games with were impressed with him, b/c they didn't expect anything from him, especially later in the season when we threw 30+ times a game. I think he will do quite well next year, but I'm not expecting All-SEC performances.
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Tauren Poole is a very good/reliable back. He is just in the bottom tier in the SEC considering the RB's that are in this league.
 
Tauren Poole is a very good/reliable back. He is just in the bottom tier in the SEC considering the RB's that are in this league.

Explain his stats given the circumstances. Are you really trying to say that "any SEC" RB could have done the same? If that's true then why was Oku completely ineffective? Neal was ineffective as well.
 
Poole is very average IMO in comparison to the other starting tailbacks in the SEC. He does not have good vision and he does not have good cutting ability. Plus he is not good at all in pass protection. He's probably one of the worst starting tailbacks they've had in pass protection in a while. I applaud the kid's effort, but he clearly had a poor 2nd half of the season, enough so that the head coach even publicly said something about it. He had the luxury last year of simply being at a position that lacked talent thus all the playing time. The days of a player being automatically good because they are starting for Tennessee are gone. Remember this team finished 6-7 last year. It doesn't get more average than that. Because of the results on the field last season I dont know how people can say more than a handful of players were above average. If all these guys were better than average then how do you only win 6 games?
 
Poole is very average IMO in comparison to the other starting tailbacks in the SEC. He does not have good vision and he does not have good cutting ability. Plus he is not good at all in pass protection. He's probably one of the worst starting tailbacks they've had in pass protection in a while. I applaud the kid's effort, but he clearly had a poor 2nd half of the season, enough so that the head coach even publicly said something about it. He had the luxury last year of simply being at a position that lacked talent thus all the playing time. The days of a player being automatically good because they are starting for Tennessee are gone. Remember this team finished 6-7 last year. It doesn't get more average than that. Because of the results on the field last season I dont know how people can say more than a handful of players were above average. If all these guys were better than average then how do you only win 6 games?

Are you saying that those who played for fla and texas were barely above average last year?
 
Poole is very average IMO in comparison to the other starting tailbacks in the SEC. He does not have good vision and he does not have good cutting ability. Plus he is not good at all in pass protection. He's probably one of the worst starting tailbacks they've had in pass protection in a while.
Explain his stats behind the '10 OL. The facts DIRECTLY contradict your assessment.

I applaud the kid's effort, but he clearly had a poor 2nd half of the season, enough so that the head coach even publicly said something about it.
No he didn't. He avg'd more ypg and ypc in the 2nd half of the season. Out of the last 6 regular season games he had three 100 yd performances and a 99 yd game... that included 117 vs Bama.
He had the luxury last year of simply being at a position that lacked talent thus all the playing time.
Good LORD... and the "luxury" of playing behind an OL that flat out wasn't very good.
The days of a player being automatically good because they are starting for Tennessee are gone.
So he "automatically" produced the way he did? He had great stats because he waited his turn? Ridiculous...
Remember this team finished 6-7 last year. It doesn't get more average than that.
SO WHAT? You blame the one guy who had a very good season in spite of terrible circumstances because the team as a whole finished 6-7? How exactly do you figure that one? The guy who produces is at fault and not the guys who didn't?

You can spin all you like but his stats aren't "average" and certainly not with the situation he posted them in.

I dont know how people can say more than a handful of players were above average.
They weren't. Poole simply earned his way by production into that "above average" group.
 
That seems like a pretty sollid 2ndary. I think Lanier will start from day 1 too. I doubt he's grossly overweight so 2 and a half months of working out should have him ready by Montana. I'd love to see Coleman push him for the position tho. I like our D so much more from last year. Excited to see the "Calvary" rep UT!
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Good lord.
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sjt - Where did I ever say Poole was the sole player to blame for last year's 6-7 record? I didn't. The talent across the board last year was average.

I understand he had some nice games stat-wise, but in some of those games he had one big run and then did nothing else. I'd much rather have a tailback that gets his 100 yards by moving the chains consistently compared to having one 79 yard run and then averages 1-2 ypc throughout the rest of the game. I understand the Oline was nothing special. I do think it was better as the season went along but it was average.

Why on earth would Dooley have actually said something publicly at the end of the season about Poole's vision and inability to find holes if he wasn't missing them rather consistently?
 
According to Brent Hubbs, he is fat...

We will see in the fall who is right about Lanier.

That is disappointing, especially for a JUCO. I know the staff absolutely loved his athleticism when they recruited him last year. But if the guy can't stay in shape and doesn't have a work ethic we'll probably never see much of him on the field.

I know it looks like Moore will be playing corner, but I'd still like to see them at least experiment with Janzen at corner and Moore at FS. I think Janzen could be a 1st round type of talent at corner. And Moore looks to me like he has really good range to be able to be a big-time FS.
 
In the bowl game, Poole got 11 carries and Neal got 9. If you're splitting carries with a freshman in one of the biggest games of the season, then you probably aren't a stud.
 
In the bowl game, Poole got 11 carries and Neal got 9. If you're splitting carries with a freshman in one of the biggest games of the season, then you probably aren't a stud.

Completely irrelevant. That comes down to play-calling (Chaney). I honestly don't think they were going away from Poole, we were a throwing team by that point. We changed the run game up as part of a game strategy.
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A few things.
1. Please, for the love of God, can we.keep a recruit's thread about, I don't know, the recruit? The incessant *****ing and off-topic gobbedlygook ruins many threads in this forum.
2. Why is everyone busting on Lanier for being out of shape a bit? He admitted, if you find the quote, that he was a little out of football shape because he was studying hard. Seriously. If he hadn't qualified, you all would be murdering him on here, talking about "how hard can it be to pass a couple classes?"
3. Lanier will be fine. Calm down.
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A few things.
1. Please, for the love of God, can we.keep a recruit's thread about, I don't know, the recruit? The incessant *****ing and off-topic gobbedlygook ruins many threads in this forum.
2. Why is everyone busting on Lanier for being out of shape a bit? He admitted, if you find the quote, that he was a little out of football shape because he was studying hard. Seriously. If he hadn't qualified, you all would be murdering him on here, talking about "how hard can it be to pass a couple classes?"
3. Lanier will be fine. Calm down.
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VIA take the wheel (back).
 
Somebody needs to start a "Poole is terrible/Poole is the next Henry" thread. That topic is taking over too many threads.
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Completely irrelevant. That comes down to play-calling (Chaney). I honestly don't think they were going away from Poole, we were a throwing team by that point. We changed the run game up as part of a game strategy.
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Actually it happened quite a bit the 2nd half of the year. poole lost carries to Neal. If Neal had stayed consistent or we had Lane last year Poole wouldnt have finished the year starting. He got worse as the year went on.
 
And yet, behind an improved line, Poole has an opportunity to become, I believe, the first UT back with back to back thousand yard seasons. That was a lot of backs in one sentence, but seriously I hope he does it. Not sure how anyone can hate on him, he may not be the most talented but he's good and is a great leader and example for the rest of the team.
 
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