'10 CA QB Jesse Scroggins (USC Solid Verbal)

Which school will Scroggins verbally commit to tomorrow?

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MDBJJC said:
D is speak the truth and I hate him for it
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I know - the more I wrote / researched, the worse I felt about it.

I hope I am wrong - I want to be wrong - I have been wrong many, many, many times before - but I don't feel like I am wrong (which, usually, you don't, but that's another matter).

Like this guy, I just call'em like I see'em.

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#3,405
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Tenacious D said:
I don't see Scroggins in orange. I can't make myself see it. The random theories floating around don't jive for one reason or another.


Consider:

1. The Desire to Go Somewhere Else to Play (Away from home)

Here's a quote about his trip to USC (emphasis mine):
My interest in USC is very high, especially because it’s close to home and only 20 minutes up the road. Also USC has a great tradition and everything about USC is awesome.

Here's another (same article):
“Basically, everything was surreal just because it was USC,”


2. The USC Depth Chart Argument

Here's another quote:
“The depth chart doesn’t mean anything to me,” said Scroggins. “I would just come in and compete, if you compete and you’re the best, you’ll be No. 1. That’s basically what you want to do.”

It sounds like he wants to compete.....and he wouldn't be doing so here, as it would be his job from Day 1. Having a starting job (essentially) handed to you is not as appealing to every player as some might think.

3. He Wanted to Show He Was Good Enough for a USC Offer, But Will Go Somewhere Else

If simply getting an offer was that important to him (which he has now received) wouldn't the next most logical step now seem to be proving himself worthy of it - and not just walk away from it to sign elsewhere?

Simply, can you ever really "prove" yourself worthy of a USC scholarship without actually playing for them?

Is he just trying to prove he's good enough to get an offer - or is he trying to prove that he's good enough to actually play / compete / produce for them?

Which would you be trying to prove? My point exactly.

4. He Didn't Work Out For Us Only Because He Was Injured

I know that he was injured - but of the three schools he camped with, it was only USC who got him to actually work / try out.

Is it even possible that maybe they were the only ones who he really cared to perform for, or hoped to impress? Is it possible, that's all I am asking.

5. The Family in Tennessee Argument

Saying he has "family in Tennessee" sounds nice, until you realize that its in Memphis. And check a map. It's app. 400 miles away.

Would you equally consider his having family in the following cities to be a big factor in his decision?

Cincinnati? Raleigh? St. Louis? Indianapolis? Columbus (OH)? Pittsburgh? Tallahassee?

Well, each of these cities are within a 400 - 450 mile radius of Knoxville.

Sure, there could be some Tennessee allegiances there, but last I checked, there were quite a few people in Memphis who hated us, too. I equate Scroggins comments about having family in Memphis to those similar ones made by BB in relation to K-State.....niceties with little, if any, meaning.

6. The Immediate Playing Time Argument

Would you rather have immediate playing time at a school who is struggling (mightily) to return to former glory...or wait your turn at a perennial powerhouse? What would you advise your son to do?

To be sure, he might go to USC and never start a single game.....but Matt Cassel seems to be doing ok after having suffered a similar fate.

7. Delaying the Announcement

Like many other posters before me have pointed out, unlike USC and UF - who can comfortably wait on an announcement - Tennessee needs Scroggins to commit NOW, as in yesterday in order to jump-start their offensive recruiting efforts. Every day that Tennessee is without a verbal from a top-flight QB, they likely fall a little further behind on the other targeted offensive recruits with schools who are more well-established - and just flat better - at the QB spot. If Scroggins intended to come to Tennessee, and he wanted the best chance to surround himself with offensive firepower, how could delaying the announcement do anything but harm those efforts? A few days after all of the camps were completed? Sure, that's understandable. A few weeks? Something’s likely amiss.

8. The Urban Factor

Rumor has it that CUM and CLK don't care for one another too much. I believe that everyone has talked this year's game to death, and that the consensus is that CUM will hang 1,000 points on CLK if given even the most remote chance to do so.

Here's my question: If you're CUM, what could possibly be any better than that?

Here's the answer: Doing it every single year.

How best to do so?
Take away the one thing that Tennessee must have in order to prevent you from doing so - namely, landing a top-flight QB. With all due respect to the other QB's out there, Scroggins is the last Tier 1 prospect left on the board (worthy of offers from both USC and UF). Without him, CUM could essentially stunt - if not flat cripple - CLK recruiting efforts for ANY offensive talent (you think he's forgotten Nukees and Marsalis?).

It is no stretch to see that keeping Scroggins away from Tennessee would hurt us in many different ways, for many seasons to come. Likely, CUM has stumbled onto this scenario, as well. If he (CUM) loses him, big deal. But if he lands him....or simply muddies the water enough for Tennessee to lose him (i.e. if it's so confusing to you, maybe its best to go to school at USC, some 20 minutes from home?)....it will be a major, major feather in the indian headdress he undoubtedly wears when out visiting gay bars.

Now, with that being said, tell me fellow Vols fans - what do you think that we would do, what would CLK and his staff do - if the role(s) were reversed, and UF needed this guy so badly?

A better question: What wouldn't we do?

Conclusion
Even if he verbally commits to us at the Elite 11 camp - come NSD, he's signing somewhere else, most likely, with USC, IMO.

I have no sources and no links. I have no insider feeding me super-secret information usually reserved for those who are, "in the know". All I know about this kid is what I read on this message board, and a couple of other articles.

I hope like heck that I am wrong, and that we land him - or that one of these other QB's is Superman (that's the real Superman, not Tebow's queer imitation of it) and this will all be a mute point, regardless as to whether he signs or not.

I'd like to know where any sense of optimism springs from, elsewhere, as I am feeling worse about this after having taken the time to semi-articulate the reason(s) for my many and seemingly valid concerns to the contrary.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
Whether he verbally commits at the Elite 11, or if he commits elsewhere - come NSD, he's signing somewhere else, most likely, with USC, IMO.
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The more articles I read especially from non-Vol pundits, the more I believe Scroggins to be a:

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#3,410
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wonder if Scroggins expressed concern about oline cuz u know Urban and Pete were all over that. 2 OTs today to protect Scroggins.hmmmmmm
 
#3,415
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VolsByNature said:
If we land Scroggins, then the possibilities of landing Dion Bailey would increase too, you think?
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My guess is yes. If we land Scroggins then I think that we have a large number of recruits follow suit. Skill position players will start landing at UT.
 
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