'10 CA QB Jesse Scroggins (USC Solid Verbal)

Which school will Scroggins verbally commit to tomorrow?

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VOL61 said:
If you think USC doesn't have more talent at QB than 90% of this conference you are just wrong. Look at Mustain. He went from starting at Arkansas to be never heard of again. Corp was one of the top QB's to come out. Barkley was the #1 player for most of the year. If you take Teabow and Snead out of this conference we are pretty weak at QB.
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The SEC just lost Stafford. The year before that, Russel and Ainge. SEC always has four pretty darn good quarterbacks a season. I'm sure we'll get a nice surprise out of a couple quarterbacks. Stafford was pretty crappy for a season or two if I remember correctly. Ainge didn't exactly light it up early. Maybe Crompton in a new system or one of LSU's quarterbacks in their second season surprise.
 
#5,228
#5,228
VOL61 said:
If you think USC doesn't have more talent at QB than 90% of this conference you are just wrong. Look at Mustain. He went from starting at Arkansas to be never heard of again. Corp was one of the top QB's to come out. Barkley was the #1 player for most of the year. If you take Teabow and Snead out of this conference we are pretty weak at QB.
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Mallet, Sheppard, Brantley, Sims, the two guys at UGA(freshman Murray and can't remember other), we are not weak as far as highly recruited QBs we are weak in that this year they are all Freshmen or proving there worth on the firld for the first time.
 
#5,229
#5,229
PA Vol said:
i wouldnt be on here until the WKU game. i would jump for so much joy that i would easily hit my head on the sealing, and therefore put myself into a coma.

i spelled it wrong, didnt I? fail.
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Not necessarily. It could just mean that you hit a place on the ceiling that had caulk on it. I got your back.
 
#5,230
#5,230
The_Orange_Pearl said:
The SEC just lost Stafford. The year before that, Russel and Ainge. SEC always has four pretty darn good quarterbacks a season. I'm sure we'll get a nice surprise out of a couple quarterbacks. Stafford was pretty crappy for a season or two if I remember correctly. Ainge didn't exactly light it up early. Maybe Crompton in a new system or one of LSU's quarterbacks in their second season surprise.
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LSU's freshan QB is supposed to be something else. i wouldnt be surprised if Patrino doesnt bring in a real good QB soon enough. UF's backup QB (Cant remember his name) has a LOT of talent. we have no idea what to expect of UGAs or Bamas new Qbs and who knows, maybe JC will do a lot better (no way he does great) in our new system.
 
#5,231
#5,231
There aren't that many good QB's in this conference. I am sorry. Is the SEC the best conference? Yes, It isn't close. But like I said besides Teabow and Snead. The conference is weak at the QB position.
 
#5,232
#5,232
VOL61 said:
There aren't that many good QB's in this conference. I am sorry. Is the SEC the best conference? Yes, It isn't close. But like I said besides Teabow and Snead. The conference is weak at the QB position.
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...currently. 2009, yes, it is not strong in QBs.
 
#5,233
#5,233
Why are people getting annoyed with Scroggins not committing yet..and its July. When a player is good enough they should take as long as they want to decide as its a big decision...and i dont remember anyone getting this annoyed about Bryce Brown. I know QB is a bigger need than RB is but still waiting the extra weeks is worth it if helps us get the best player available.
 
#5,234
#5,234
Cox and Mallet could both turn into good QB's. I think the SEC will be better overall this year than last. But still below normal compared to past.
 
#5,236
#5,236
BIG GUY said:
we wasnt in it for brown last july
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No but we still had to wait a long time for his actual commitment. The way people are saying they are "fed up of waiting" makes it sound like we are in the 3rd week of May next year not the 2nd week of July this year.
 
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#5,238
english_vol said:
No but we still had to wait a long time for his actual commitment. The way people are saying they are "fed up of waiting" makes it sound like we are in the 3rd week of May next year not the 2nd week of July this year.
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people are tired of waiting because of the dire situation we are in. everyone but tennaciousutfan or w/e still wants to see JS in orange. personally, im tired of waiting, but if we get him in the end then good we can get the ball moving. if not, thats sucks, but we move on...
 
#5,239
#5,239
english_vol said:
Why are people getting annoyed with Scroggins not committing yet..and its July. When a player is good enough they should take as long as they want to decide as its a big decision...and i dont remember anyone getting this annoyed about Bryce Brown. I know QB is a bigger need than RB is but still waiting the extra weeks is worth it if helps us get the best player available.
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I just think people honestly always thought we were going to get Jesse. I don't think all of us thought we could land Brown. It is just a different deal.
 
#5,240
#5,240
VOL61 said:
There aren't that many good QB's in this conference. I am sorry. Is the SEC the best conference? Yes, It isn't close. But like I said besides Teabow and Snead. The conference is weak at the QB position.
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You're talking about one season though... again, Stafford was just taken as the number one player in the draft. Also, maybe not having the best quarterbacks(stats wise) has something to do with getting the best defensive players in the country. Troy Smith was this unstoppable heisman candidate that got piss pounded by the SEC. His line couldn't pick up blocks. He couldn't out run the defensive ends. The SEC defenses might have something to do with it. Maybe if the Pac 10 actually played defense or the Big 10 had db's that ran faster than 4.5, their quarterbacks wouldn't look so great. How about the Big 12? Oklahoma set the record for points scored in a season. Texas Tech had one loss and their offense was ridiculous. Florida held Oklahoma and Bradford to 14. Ole Miss beat Texas Tech 47-34. The Big 12 has these great quarterbacks because they have terrible defenses. SEC quarterbacks have dominated recent drafts.

Round 1
1 - Mathew Stafford - Georgia
1- JaMarcus Russell - LSU
1 - Alex Smith - Utah
1 - Eli Manning - Ole Miss
3 - Matt Ryan - Boston College
3 - Vince Young - Texas
3 - Phillip Rivers - NC St.
5 - Mark Sanchez - USC
10 - Matt Leinart - USC
11 - Jay Cutler - Vanderbilt
11 - Ben Roethlisberger - Miami(OH)
18 - Joe Flacco - Deleware
22 - Brady Quinn - Notre Dame
22 - J.P. Losman - Tulane
24 - Arron Rodgers - California
25 - Jason Campbell - Auburn

Round 2
4 - Kevin Kolb - Houston
8 - John Beck - BYU
17 - Kellen Clemons - Oregon
11 - Drew Stanton - Michigan St.
25 - Brian Brohm - Louisville
26 - Chad Henne - Michigan
32 - Tavaris Jackson - Alabama St.

Round 3
3 - Charlie Frye - Akron
5 - Andrew Walter - Arizona St.
17 - Charlie Whitehurst - Clemson
21 - Brodie Croyle - Alabama
21 - David Greene - Georgia
27 - Matt Shuab - Virgina
28 - Trent Edwards - Stanford
31 - Kevin O'Connell - SD St.
 
#5,241
#5,241
So first round quarterbacks taken look like this over recent years...

SEC - 5
Pac 10 - 3
ACC - 2
Big 12 - 1
Ind - 1
MWC - 1
MAC - 1
CUSA - 1
Div1AA - 1

I know you were talking about this upcoming season for the most part but you made it sound like the rest of the country gets better quarterbacks. The Big 12 doesn't play defense though...
 
#5,242
#5,242
also, the B12 QBs are great in college. but look at chase daniel...he doesnt have the build of an NFL QB. Graham Harrel (sp?) wasnt even drafted. the A&M QB was, but late. obviously McCoy and Bradford will be picked high but i think they are actually legit. Reesing at KS is a mere 5'11. i wont go as far to say that the B12 completley lacks D...i think the O is just that good in some cases. but not playing SEC caliber D week in and week out is why there stats are so ridiculously high IMO. and vince young IMO is a flop. he will never be a great NFL QB.
 
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#5,243
What I am referring to is not the QB. How good the QB is only part of it. I doubt very seriously the so called good QBs at USC would have outstanding freshman years against our defenses. They might perform well against weak defenses in the Pac10 but here it would be a whole new ball game. So I am not comparing QBs I am comparing the competition they play in. Very few QBs come into the SEC and have a great freshman or even Sophmore year. If he has the skill and so many on hear think he can make a difference here against the best defenses in the country as a freshman than he would have no problem getting playing time at USC.
 
#5,244
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TideWarrior said:
What I am referring to is not the QB. How good the QB is only part of it. I doubt very seriously the so called good QBs at USC would have outstanding freshman years against our defenses. They might perform well against weak defenses in the Pac10 but here it would be a whole new ball game. So I am not comparing QBs I am comparing the competition they play in. Very few QBs come into the SEC and have a great freshman or even Sophmore year. If he has the skill and so many on hear think he can make a difference here against the best defenses in the country as a freshman than he would have no problem getting playing time at USC.
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Very few QB's are good in any conference as freshman. It's not that Scroggins is going to be awesome as a freshman. It's that he would most likely be better than Stephens or Rozier. Even if he isn't, I don't think Stephens and Rozier are the future so might as well get Scroggins accustomed to the SEC asap if he ends up a Vol.
 
#5,245
#5,245
The_Orange_Pearl said:
So first round quarterbacks taken look like this over recent years...

SEC - 5
Pac 10 - 3
ACC - 2
Big 12 - 1
Ind - 1
MWC - 1
MAC - 1
CUSA - 1
Div1AA - 1

I know you were talking about this upcoming season for the most part but you made it sound like the rest of the country gets better quarterbacks. The Big 12 doesn't play defense though...
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I don't think draft picks tell the whole story but I wasn't saying the SEC hasn't had good QB's in the past. Just the opposite. I was saying we don't have that many good QB's this year after Teabow and Snead.
 
#5,246
#5,246
Anyone listening to the Animal catch the interview with Bruce Feldman?

this was posted on TOS...

Also made me feel batter about Scroggins. Scroggins told him depth chart was his #1 concern. He doesn't feel like we are out of the race
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#5,250
#5,250
PA Vol said:
people are tired of waiting because of the dire situation we are in. everyone but tennaciousutfan or w/e still wants to see JS in orange. personally, im tired of waiting, but if we get him in the end then good we can get the ball moving. if not, thats sucks, but we move on...
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Scroggins has already said that he's going to announce his decision at the Elite 11 Quarterback camp in late July. Why ANYONE would expect to hear his announcement anytime before then is baffling to me.
 
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