'10 CA QB Jesse Scroggins (USC Solid Verbal)

Which school will Scroggins verbally commit to tomorrow?


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Also in regards to the media hype pointing him towards USC, wouldn't that be part of the plan for Kiffin. If this is in favor of UT, Kiffin would want the media who like to criticize him to look foolish to. Plus having UF on his list makes it that much better for UT. Meyer and Carrol both scrathing their heads. Even as a Bama fan I would want a copy of that picture.
 
Think about it, a coach trying to prove that he can recruit and rebuild a program with the best in the country.

He's already recruited and rebuilt at USC. He's recruited, but not yet rebuilt at UT. He recruited the top player in the country last year with only a few months work, no prior contact, and on the heels of a 5-7 season.

A Scroggins' commitment would just add more evidence to the recruiting truth.
 
I think they will help Jesse weigh his options. I don't think either one will assert an influence over his decision. This is going to be Jesse's decision whether it's us or it's Southern Cal.

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He's growing up fast. Jesse will make the decision and be fine. Personally, I'm anxious to know the outcome, but I like the patience he is showing.
 
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First I think he will be at UT. I would bank that USC is putting the same pressure to get him to commit now, but the fact he isn't I think gives UT a lot of hope. I also agree with a post about helping recruiting. USC doesn't need him to recruit, but this is a perfect setup for the way Kiffin likes to get publicity for UT. What would be better than announcing on national TV that I have decided to go to UT over USC and I hope others will join me to rebuild them to national contenders. This to me has Kiffin written all over it, but I could be wrong. I wouldn't be surprised to see Kiffin at the press conference or already one set up at UT on that day. Think about it, a coach trying to prove that he can recruit and rebuild a program with the best in the country. To show that he can go head to head with the best recruiters in the country before he coahes his first game will go along way with recruits and doubters. It looked good with snagging a WR from UF at the last minute imagine this coup.

On the other hand if has already picked USC and is just doing this to promote himself and get hype for TV than UT doesn't need him, but I really don't think this is the case.

He also keeps eluding to playing with Bailey who has stated he is coming with his parents at the end of the month to visit UT.


I had been feeling this way as well. Till I watched the video on rivals of him talking about his final three. Granted it was with a USC reporter but the kid almost giggled when talking about USC. It was pretty clear he really likes them. Add this to the Rettig offer and I think Scroggins is a Trojan. Plus Bailey hasn't even seen UT yet. He also talked about how big a factor his Dad plays in everything he does.

I want the kid bad. But it doesn't look good at all for us. I thought it did till I seen Scroggins say what he did in that video.
 
I have a feeling I know where he wants to go. I also have a feeling I know where his Dad wants him to go. I have another feeling they are two different places and that is why he is having a hard time deciding.
His dad is going to feel pretty stupid in 4 to 5 yrs after UT QB's (Rettig?) are playing UF, Bama, UGA and LSU/Auburn on national television...and getting accolades while his boy is hanging out on the bench, then come NFL draft day, his boy isn't even under consideration. Why? Cause he wanted to drive 20 min to see his boy. I'm sure at that point it will kick him in the gut, knowing that he's largely responsible for pushing his kid into a deadend situation, and knowing his son may resent him for that.
 
His dad is going to feel pretty stupid in 4 to 5 yrs after UT QB's (Rettig?) are playing UF, Bama, UGA and LSU/Auburn on national television...and getting accolades while his boy is hanging out on the bench, then come NFL draft day, his boy isn't even under consideration. Why? Cause he wanted to drive 20 min to see his boy. I'm sure at that point it will kick him in the gut, knowing that he's largely responsible for pushing his kid into a deadend situation, and knowing his son may resent him for that.

although i think the odds are likely that he wont see playing time--USC will likely recruit more QBs next year--give the kid a break. hes being heavily recruitied by SC, UT, and UF. One of those teams just won the NC and another hasnt had a losing season in years. not to mention all the other offers hes had. i know its a down year for QBs, but the kids got some skills. dont be so sure that he will ride the bench all through college. theres a reason hes so highly recruited, by 2 teams that could have just about whoever they wanted. he could possibly be making the best decision for himself. do NOT assume he will ride the pine all 4 years.

sanchez didnt play right away and many had doubts about him when he was named starter. look at him now. need i remind you of cassel (although thats an extreme rareity). this is a kid that welcomes competition. expect him to compete with the best, and dont be surprised if he comes out on top.
 
One thing I dont get is why parents play such a big role in a decision. They arent playing football so why are they pushing schools on thier kids? This situation and the MB situation comes to mind. Im just not coming up with good reasons..

Anyone care to explain?
 
One thing I dont get is why parents play such a big role in a decision. They arent playing football so why are they pushing schools on thier kids? This situation and the MB situation comes to mind. Im just not coming up with good reasons..

Anyone care to explain?

Did you really just ask why parents play a big role in a 17 yr old kids decision...
 
although i think the odds are likely that he wont see playing time--USC will likely recruit more QBs next year--give the kid a break. hes being heavily recruitied by SC, UT, and UF. One of those teams just won the NC and another hasnt had a losing season in years. not to mention all the other offers hes had. i know its a down year for QBs, but the kids got some skills. dont be so sure that he will ride the bench all through college. theres a reason hes so highly recruited, by 2 teams that could have just about whoever they wanted. he could possibly be making the best decision for himself. do NOT assume he will ride the pine all 4 years.

sanchez didnt play right away and many had doubts about him when he was named starter. look at him now. need i remind you of cassel (although thats an extreme rareity). this is a kid that welcomes competition. expect him to compete with the best, and dont be surprised if he comes out on top.

If he goes to USC, the odds are definitely against him.
 
The part that doesn't make any sense is if his parents are wanting him to stay close to home, why isn't UCLA in the mix? Depth chart there is much more favorable.
 
One thing I dont get is why parents play such a big role in a decision. They arent playing football so why are they pushing schools on thier kids? This situation and the MB situation comes to mind. Im just not coming up with good reasons..

Anyone care to explain?

i dont like it. i go by the rule of let the kid decide. however, it depends on how close the kid and his family are. if they are very close, and the family cant afford to fly across country to see the kid play (JS for example), than the pressure is there to stay close to home so that mom and dad can be there for you.
 
One thing I dont get is why parents play such a big role in a decision. They arent playing football so why are they pushing schools on thier kids? This situation and the MB situation comes to mind. Im just not coming up with good reasons..

Anyone care to explain?

a kid wanting to please his parents and believing that they know whats best for him.
 
If he goes to USC, the odds are definitely against him.

agreed. im not arguing that. but hes good. im just saying that he is a competitor, and that if he gets the shot to start, i think he will do all in his power to grasp it. its SC, they will coach him up. he is likely going to play backup. however, i for one wont be surprised if by 2013 you hear his name again...

thats IF he goes to SC. hopefully by 2011, he will be playing in orange.
 
Shouldnt the parents of any particular recruit be happy where ever they end up even though it may not be where they want him to go?
 
USC is selling the kid on Barkley playing this year and leaving early for the NFL. Nothing I see points to that happening. I think Corp will play and Barkley could even redshirt. I know there was alot of talk of Mustain transferring or flunking out. But he is back on the team and said he is staying where he is. Why would you waste a year on Barkley just to come in and mop up games agaist weaker teams.

Everyone is making Barkley out to be this awesome, straight to the NFL QB. I don't think that is the case. The kid does have all the physical tools to make it. He probably will. But he will have to wait his turn just like all the other USC Qb's have had to. He struggled with int's in the spring and making bad reads. It even goes back to his senior year of HS. 54% comp. 23 TD 18 INT. Those #'s are not that great. Yes decent. But good enought to walk right in and start at USC over Corp and Mustain. I don't see it. Especially after the spring he had.

Scroggins is from LA and grew up a USC fan. I can't blame the kid for wanting to go there. I also can't blame him for wanting to be close to his family. But the recruiting line he is getting is BS. He will be lucky to see the field at SC until Barkley is gone and that could be at least 4 years away. Plus who knows who comes to SC in the meantime.

I think he is making a mistake. But again could you tell your son to go to SC if UT offered? Even if UT was stacked at QB? I couldn't.......
 
If I had a son who was furtunate enough to be blessed with that much talent I wouldnt force a decision on him much less be upset that he didnt pick a particular school over the home town school.

The world would end if he dicided against UT either.
 
although i think the odds are likely that he wont see playing time--USC will likely recruit more QBs next year--give the kid a break. hes being heavily recruitied by SC, UT, and UF. One of those teams just won the NC and another hasnt had a losing season in years. not to mention all the other offers hes had. i know its a down year for QBs, but the kids got some skills. dont be so sure that he will ride the bench all through college. theres a reason hes so highly recruited, by 2 teams that could have just about whoever they wanted. he could possibly be making the best decision for himself. do NOT assume he will ride the pine all 4 years.

sanchez didnt play right away and many had doubts about him when he was named starter. look at him now. need i remind you of cassel (although thats an extreme rareity). this is a kid that welcomes competition. expect him to compete with the best, and dont be surprised if he comes out on top.
Sanchez was fortunate enough that an injury to Booty his 3rd yr allowed him some valuable playing time...then his RS Junior year he had a good one.
That was the major knock on him, having VERY limited playing time as a starter...compared to Matt Stafford, for example. Leading up to the final days before the draft, Sanchez was expected to go mid-first round. A few teams were willing to gamble...the Jets being one of them, and decided on draft day to move up early and take him.
This doesn't normally occur. If you start only one year, you normally drop a few rounds, if you get drafted at all. Sanchez was a 5* like Barkley, and jumped on early by USC. The fact that they waited this long, communicates to everyone that they don't feel Jesse's on that same level. To them, he's a fallback guy. A roster number. If they were REALLY high on him, they would have been all over him like bark on a tree.

What's more...Heath Shuler and Ryan Leaf taught us a valuable lesson. High Potential, and draft status doesn't spell automatic results. Sanchez hasn't taken a single snap. Clemens an Ainge aren't pushovers to beat out. Remember Brady Quinn supposedly being the savior of the Cleveland Browns? What happened. The guy on the roster has held Brady off and got a fat contract himself.

And Cassell play decent on a great team. Randy Moss playing for the Titans last year would've made Kerry Collins look like Peyton Manning, and we would've had a Superbowl ring. Cassell went to KC, the worst team in the league. We'll see how wonderful he is at opposite ends of the spectrum.
 
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I think he is making a mistake. But again could you tell your son to go to SC if UT offered? Even if UT was stacked at QB? I couldn't.......
Yes...I could. It doesn't mean I'd have to like it, but if he faced those type of circumstances, I'd have to look for better options. The primary focus in my mind would absolutely be "What situation gives him the best ODDS (no guarantees anywhere) to succeed and also a place he can feel comfortable with for 4yrs. A place that he can be proud to say, when all is said and done..."Hell yeah, I played for the V.B.!" :)
 
Sanchez was fortunate enough that an injury to Booty his 3rd yr allowed him some valuable playing time...then his RS Junior year he had a good one.
That was the major knock on him, having VERY limited playing time as a starter...compared to Matt Stafford, for example. Leading up to the final days before the draft, Sanchez was expected to go mid-first round. A few teams were willing to gamble...the Jets being one of them, and decided on draft day to move up early and take him.
This doesn't normally occur. If you start only one year, you normally drop a few rounds, if you get drafted at all. Sanchez was a 5* like Barkley, and jumped on early by USC. The fact that they waited this long, communicates to everyone that they don't feel Jesse's on that same level. To them, he's a fallback guy. A roster number. If they were REALLY high on him, they would have been all over him like bark on a tree.

What's more...Heath Shuler and Ryan Leaf taught us a valuable lesson. High Potential, and draft status doesn't spell automatic results. Sanchez hasn't taken a single snap. Clemens an Ainge aren't pushovers to beat out. Remember Brady Quinn supposedly being the savior of the Cleveland Browns? What happened. The guy on the roster has held Brady off and got a fat contract himself.

And Cassell play decent on a great team. Randy Moss playing for the Titans last year would've made Kerry Collins look like Peyton Manning, and we would've had a Superbowl ring. Cassell went to KC, the worst team in the league. We'll see how wonderful he is at opposite ends of the spectrum.
It's not even worth pointing out all the errors here. The whole post is just wrong.
 
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