07-08 Bball Schedule?

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volfansince113087 said:
Everybody plays the mid-majors. But seriously, does Duke ever play a Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee, UCLA, or just some big D-1 program @ home, other than conf opponents. I dont think they go on the road. I know theyve played Georgetown recently and they played TX in NY. But Duke will not play a home-home series against another quality D-1 opponent.

As far as the schedule, since Pearl wants to play all over the state of TN. I think them and VA Tech should play @ Viking Hall in Bristol every year. It's a great setting and will have a beautiful atmosphere.
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Opponents dont want to play Duke at home. FYI Duke is rumored to play UConn and Notre Dame this year at home. Not to mention the Big Ten Tourney they do every year so they will end up playing Indiana, Illnois, or someone else from the Big Ten. Dont get me wrong I love Tennessee. But the basketball program at UT will never be what it is at Duke, UNC, Indiana..etc...but in the same light, the football program will never be as intense at Duke, UNC, etc..it will always be overshadowed by the basketball program. Tennessee is going to have a amazing team this year..maybe even a championship year I am prediciting... but till the day they cram 107,000 people to watch a basketball game, TN will be a football driven school.
 
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dantheman617 said:
Opponents dont want to play Duke at home. FYI Duke is rumored to play UConn and Notre Dame this year at home. Not to mention the Big Ten Tourney they do every year so they will end up playing Indiana, Illnois, or someone else from the Big Ten. Dont get me wrong I love Tennessee. But the basketball program at UT will never be what it is at Duke, UNC, Indiana..etc...but in the same light, the football program will never be as intense at Duke, UNC, etc..it will always be overshadowed by the basketball program. Tennessee is going to have a amazing team this year..maybe even a championship year I am prediciting... but till the day they cram 107,000 people to watch a basketball game, TN will be a football driven school.
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Football has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. The football program is going nowhere thanks to the Fulmer Federation. Right now, everybody in Knoxville is talking more about basketball than football (which is only about 2 months away.) With what Bruce has done in two years, you're foolish to limit what our basketball limits are in the long run. I hope you have fun watching another middling season without contending for an SEC Championship (will be the 9th year in a row we haven't won one.) Because in basketball, it would be a disappointment if we didn't win an SEC Championship.
 
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dantheman617 said:
Opponents dont want to play Duke at home. FYI Duke is rumored to play UConn and Notre Dame this year at home. Not to mention the Big Ten Tourney they do every year so they will end up playing Indiana, Illnois, or someone else from the Big Ten. Dont get me wrong I love Tennessee. But the basketball program at UT will never be what it is at Duke, UNC, Indiana..etc...but in the same light, the football program will never be as intense at Duke, UNC, etc..it will always be overshadowed by the basketball program. Tennessee is going to have a amazing team this year..maybe even a championship year I am prediciting... but till the day they cram 107,000 people to watch a basketball game, TN will be a football driven school.
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This is rediculously wrong. Basketball doesn't need the same support that football does to get really good. Look at Florida for example. Florida has never been a basketball school untill Donovan came. They've only had 29 NBA draft picks in school history. Eastern Kentucky has had 25 and Santa Clara has had 26, and as mediocre as UT's basketball program has been, we've had 42 draft picks. All you need is a good coach who can recruit, and you can win. Besides it not like UT has a shortage of support in basketball or football. Even though UT is historically a football school, it doesn't matter worth a lick. They can both co-exist successfully without a doubt.
 
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I did not say they could not co-exist. I have supported TN bball forever. What makes me sick as being a TN fan, is a couple years ago I went to my first TN game when they played SC. I could about count the fans on my hands that were there. All of a sudden, ppl are liking TN basketball b/c they are doing good. And as far as me watching TN football having another "meddling season" when was the last time the bball team won the SEC...oh wait never. Trust me I will be rooting UT basketball on, as a matter of fact I am sure I will be one of the many screaming idiots on the sidelines. It would be foolish to say UT bball has half of the expectations as the basketball programs at UCLA, Duke, Carolina, Kentucky, etc.
 
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dantheman617 said:
I did not say they could not co-exist. I have supported TN bball forever. What makes me sick as being a TN fan, is a couple years ago I went to my first TN game when they played SC. I could about count the fans on my hands that were there. All of a sudden, ppl are liking TN basketball b/c they are doing good. And as far as me watching TN football having another "meddling season" when was the last time the bball team won the SEC...oh wait never. Trust me I will be rooting UT basketball on, as a matter of fact I am sure I will be one of the many screaming idiots on the sidelines. It would be foolish to say UT bball has half of the expectations as the basketball programs at UCLA, Duke, Carolina, Kentucky, etc.
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UT basketball already has top 5 attendance in basketball. BP is going to prove that you can have Duke, UNC expectations along with Tennessee football expectations.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
UT basketball already has top 5 attendance in basketball. BP is going to prove that you can have Duke, UNC expectations along with Tennessee football expectations.
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Over what, the past 2 years? They also have the 2nd largest arena as well. Cameron for instance, only seats 11,000 and you have ppl camping for weeks just to get tickets to one game. For me it is kinda like comparing the Braves and the Red Sox...both are good, but there is always going to be more people and more excitement with the Red Sox.
 
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dantheman617 said:
Opponents dont want to play Duke at home. FYI Duke is rumored to play UConn and Notre Dame this year at home. Not to mention the Big Ten Tourney they do every year so they will end up playing Indiana, Illnois, or someone else from the Big Ten. Dont get me wrong I love Tennessee. But the basketball program at UT will never be what it is at Duke, UNC, Indiana..etc...but in the same light, the football program will never be as intense at Duke, UNC, etc..it will always be overshadowed by the basketball program. Tennessee is going to have a amazing team this year..maybe even a championship year I am prediciting... but till the day they cram 107,000 people to watch a basketball game, TN will be a football driven school.
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Your dead wrong in all your assumptions:

1. UT has tried to get a home and home with Duke....It is Duke who ducks not UT.
2. UT is a school that has had football as its main sport because basketball has been so bad...you obviously have no clue about the Mear's years at UT. UT can and if Pearl sticks around will be the same as the Dukes, Indiana's and UNC's
3. As for UNC football You better wake up, Mack Brown did very,very well at UNC and Butch Davis is alot better coach and recruiter than Mack Brown.
4. You do not have to have 107,000 fans to prove UT can be a basketball school....Does Duke put 107,000 in Cameron? How about UNC do they seat 107,000 in theirs, does Indiana in their's?
5. The State of Tennessee produces some really good big-time basketball talent....Don't believe me just look at the current NBA draft....Al Pearl has to do is keep them in-state.
6. UT is a money driven Athletic Dept period, right now UT football brings in the most donations but basketball is catching up and when comparing the overall basketball vs football with attendance and participation basketball is doing almost as well as football. Add in that TBA is going thru upgrade look for basketball revenue is increase dramactically.
 
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dantheman617 said:
Over what, the past 2 years? They also have the 2nd largest arena as well. Cameron for instance, only seats 11,000 and you have ppl camping for weeks just to get tickets to one game. For me it is kinda like comparing the Braves and the Red Sox...both are good, but there is always going to be more people and more excitement with the Red Sox.
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Tennessee is well on it's way to creating the intensity and passion of Duke and UNC. You make it seem like having a great football program is a disadvantage, however it is actually a good thing for the basketball program.
 
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dantheman617 said:
Over what, the past 2 years? They also have the 2nd largest arena as well. Cameron for instance, only seats 11,000 and you have ppl camping for weeks just to get tickets to one game. For me it is kinda like comparing the Braves and the Red Sox...both are good, but there is always going to be more people and more excitement with the Red Sox.
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You obviously never tried to attend a game at Stokley. Don't preach about things until you know what your talking about.
UT has an arena that just lost approx. 4,000 seats.

Using your thought process the football team is in a very sad shape since they have what 3rd largest in the country and no one camps out to get tickets.

TBA would not exsist if not for the success of Tennessee basketball in the late 60's thru the mid 80's.

Stokley during the 70's would equal Cameron of today.

In the 70's who was Duke? It was UNC and only UNC, in the 80's it was UNC, Virgina, NC State & Wake Forest.

You want to call BoSOx's and Braves then drop back and learn your history before trying to make that comparison because you failed with that one.
 
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Yall totally missed my point, and obviously are not going to get it either. I just simply am saying the expectations are totally different. Anyone the takes off their orange shaded glasses will see that. Im not taking the side of any one team. Trust me, I would love to see TN bball become one of the most dominant programs ever. That is going to take time. And your right, the Mears era was great..and their has been flashes of greatness. It has just lacked consistancy. Every single year you know the elite programs like Duke, UNC, UCLA are going to be good..regardless. And those programs have that "awe" and "fear" that just simply comes with their name. I do hope Pearl stays and wins many championships and establishes something really special.
 
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dantheman617 said:
Yall totally missed my point, and obviously are not going to get it either. I just simply am saying the expectations are totally different. Anyone the takes off their orange shaded glasses will see that. Im not taking the side of any one team. Trust me, I would love to see TN bball become one of the most dominant programs ever. That is going to take time. And your right, the Mears era was great..and their has been flashes of greatness. It has just lacked consistancy. Every single year you know the elite programs like Duke, UNC, UCLA are going to be good..regardless. And those programs have that "awe" and "fear" that just simply comes with their name. I do hope Pearl stays and wins many championships and establishes something really special.
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I don't wear orange shaded glasses, ask anyone on this board who knows me.

Again you missed the point....Who was DUKE in the 70's?
 
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dantheman617 said:
Yall totally missed my point, and obviously are not going to get it either. I just simply am saying the expectations are totally different. Anyone the takes off their orange shaded glasses will see that. Im not taking the side of any one team. Trust me, I would love to see TN bball become one of the most dominant programs ever. That is going to take time. And your right, the Mears era was great..and their has been flashes of greatness. It has just lacked consistancy. Every single year you know the elite programs like Duke, UNC, UCLA are going to be good..regardless. And those programs have that "awe" and "fear" that just simply comes with their name. I do hope Pearl stays and wins many championships and establishes something really special.
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your point was that UT basketball won't have the expectations and won't get ever get the same sense of "awe" that UCLA, Duke, and UNC have. I understand that, but I think you are wrong. All it takes to do that is 1. support-plenty of diehard UT fans, no problem there, 2. coaching- BP is a great recruiter and plays a great style which will allow him to take UT basketabll to new heights. If he stays with UT for about 15 years, and wins a natl. champioship or 2, if we are consistenly good, UT will have the same "awe" and respect of the Duke programs. All it takes is one great coach.
 
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Vol67 said:
I don't wear orange shaded glasses, ask anyone on this board who knows me.

Again you missed the point....Who was DUKE in the 70's?
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exactly. Coach K. made it what it is today. There is a real possibility that BP will be able to do the same thing with UT.
 
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Vol67 said:
I don't wear orange shaded glasses, ask anyone on this board who knows me.

Again you missed the point....Who was DUKE in the 70's?
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in 63 They made it to the final four only to lose to UCLA
in 64 they lost the national championship game
in 78 they lose in the national championship game
..and this is not in that time frame but they made the final four 88-92 and won the ACC tourney 7 straight times
3 national championships
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
your point was that UT basketball won't have the expectations and won't get ever get the same sense of "awe" that UCLA, Duke, and UNC have. I understand that, but I think you are wrong. All it takes to do that is 1. support-plenty of diehard UT fans, no problem there, 2. coaching- BP is a great recruiter and plays a great style which will allow him to take UT basketabll to new heights. If he stays with UT for about 15 years, and wins a natl. champioship or 2, if we are consistenly good, UT will have the same "awe" and respect of the Duke programs. All it takes is one great coach.
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i totally agree with that....i just hope we can keep him around
 
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3 of the SEC titles Mears earned were shared. If you want to bring up history from the 60, 70's or whatever..there is not much from TN either
 
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Anyways, back to the thread topic...add Gonzaga and California U. of Pennsylvania to the '07-'08 out of conference schedule.
 
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ThisIsWhyImHot said:
Duke has not been an all-time great program at all. They weren't good until the end of the century, and they were just like Tennessee, an up and coming underdog who everyone jumped on the bandwagon of. Then they won all those championships and people jumped off and started hating them.
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When KY won the title in'78, it was against Duke. Louisville in '86, against Duke. Duke has been around the top for a long time
 
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