“Heupel is the only coach we offered” statement at presser…….

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Either way, it was refreshing not to be rejected publicly for everyone’s amusement over and over again like the last search. It was watertight from beginning to end.
 
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Volfaninfl2 said:
In today’s presser, White said Heupel was always the top person on his list, no matter what others have reported, and the only Coach offered the job.
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Sucks so bad he required a search firm to find the coach down the hallway less than a week ago.
 
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To every twisting conjecture of White’s words, I don’t believe you have any true inside knowledge on this. Move on.
 
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andywilson001 said:
He just shouldn't have brought it up at all. It's not "technically" a lie, but its dishonest. We were turned down by several people before landing on him, whether formal offers were made or not.
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Have you ever not asked a girl out because you thought she was not in to you? If you never asked her out then she never turned you down. That is not a lie. The fact you think she would have turned you down is irrelevant. I learned the hard way. I had a girl ask me years later why I never asked her out. I was sure she would say no at the time but turns out I was way wrong. SMH
 
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Vol524 said:
Have you ever not asked a girl out because you thought she was not in to you? If you never asked her out then she never turned you down. That is not a lie. The fact you think she would have turned you down is irrelevant. I learned the hard way. I had a girl ask me years later why I never asked her out. I was sure she would say no at the time but turns out I was way wrong. SMH
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So you're telling me that when we called James Franklin, arranged a meeting, talked to him about the job, and he said "sorry but I'm not interested"... That doesn't count as being turned down? Because that happened.
 
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Our AD said he gave one offer and I believe that an offer is a formal contract. Gaging interest is not an offer, I am sure he had conversations with some that maybe he saw that they were not a great fit, even though half of this fanbase might think so, and some that he would have loved to have offered, but their interest was not to be part of UT at this time. It's not a lie to say one offer was made and accepted. This coach and AD deserves our support, period.
 
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allvol123 said:
It's a white lie. He is probably the only one that got a formal contract put in his face.

They probably talked offers with others and were turned down before an official offer was extended.
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Yep. We didn’t spend days flying all over the country interviewing candidates when White could’ve picked up the phone and landed Heupel if he wanted to from the beginning. Heupel was offered the job bc we already knew he would accept.
 
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So I have came to the conclusion that this hire won’t work out either. No sources no links just based of the last 10 hires. SEC will chew up Heupel and spit him back out . Only way I see this a win is if we are banned postseason for the next 4 years
 
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If you believe this guy, he knew the day Pruitt was fired that Heupel was the new TN coach, that White and Heupel had already discussed it, TIFWIW How I knew
 
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If you introduce yourself to a hot chick in a bar, and her response is “hi, would you please excuse me for a minute”, you were technically not rejected.
 
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Would you rather him tell everyone publicly about how many people turned us down? If I’m remembering right, he got asked what changed in a few days, because he originally said he wasn’t gonna offer huepel. He either had to talk about how many people turned us down, or just say that he realized huepel was the guy.
 
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Can you tell me who turned us down? I tend to take people at their word and I don't assume things and since I wasn't in on the coaching search I really don't know. So, how were the interviews you sat in on? Thanks for the info in advance,
 
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andywilson001 said:
So you're telling me that when we called James Franklin, arranged a meeting, talked to him about the job, and he said "sorry but I'm not interested"... That doesn't count as being turned down? Because that happened.
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Not sure who you got your facts from but, IF we never said are you interested in the job we never offered him the job. God I am glad he didn't want the job IF that is true. Just because you talk to someone it doesn't mean you offered them a job. I do it several times a week. Just because there is an opening and we talk doesn't mean I offered you a job. You can leave saying and thinking whatever you want. But, unless I say are you interested in the job, I didn't offer you the job. You may have said something that turned me off or I didn't like the way the conversation went. It really is that simple. I am sure there are a lot of people that have left thinking I offered them a job because we talked about the job. They would be wrong.
 
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Vol524 said:
Not sure who you got your facts from but, IF we never said are you interested in the job we never offered him the job. God I am glad he didn't want the job IF that is true. Just because you talk to someone it doesn't mean you offered them a job. I do it several times a week. Just because there is an opening and we talk doesn't mean I offered you a job. You can leave saying and thinking whatever you want. But, unless I say are you interested in the job, I didn't offer you the job. You may have said something that turned me off or I didn't like the way the conversation went. It really is that simple. I am sure there are a lot of people that have left thinking I offered them a job because we talked about the job. They would be wrong.
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If I want to ask a girl out on a date.. and I call her and say "Hey, lets talk about the possibility of you and I potentially going out on a date"... and she says "No thanks, I'm not interested", that is the same thing as being rejected.
 
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37620VOL said:
Use your freaking head. Heupel was the only one we offered. Sure we discussed the job with 5-10 others, but they were never officially offered - we just guaged interest and found there was none.

Would you rather he go up there and say, "This guy here... he was 15th on our list, but he said yes, so yayyy"?
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Or we found there was interest from several and DW thought JH was best of the ones interested. We should not assume that JH was the only one with interest. I’m glad we got someone with HC experience. I’m really glad we are done with gumps. I was embarrassed for UT every time Pruitt was interviewed.
 
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andywilson001 said:
He just shouldn't have brought it up at all. It's not "technically" a lie, but its dishonest. We were turned down by several people before landing on him, whether formal offers were made or not.
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It was a preemptive strike. If he hadn't have brought it up, it would have been asked. It was his way of answering an obvious question with prepared remarks.
 
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andywilson001 said:
If I want to ask a girl out on a date.. and I call her and say "Hey, lets talk about the possibility of you and I potentially going out on a date"... and she says "No thanks, I'm not interested", that is the same thing as being rejected.
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That would be true. But, if all you did is sit and talk with her and you never said would you like to go out with me then you were not rejected. You just talked. He said the job was only offered to one person. The rest can think what they want. But, if White was talking to them and he never said ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THE JOB, then he never offered it to them. If someone said I am not interested in the job it doesn't matter because they weren't offered the job. It was simply a feeling out process.
 
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Vol524 said:
That would be true. But, if all you did is sit and talk with her and you never said would you like to go out with me then you were not rejected. You just talked. He said the job was only offered to one person. The rest can think what they want. But, if White was talking to them and he never said ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THE JOB, then he never offered it to them. If someone said I am not interested in the job it doesn't matter because they weren't offered the job. It was simply a feeling out process.
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Why would he talk to them if it wasn't about the coaching job? We just fired a coach. We have an opening. They are also a coach. The intent of the conversation is obvious. It's not like they called to talk politics or trade muffin recipes.
 
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My question is, why do any of you give a ****? As long as the program gets better isn't that all that matters???
 
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FZJ80 said:
I think he lied.
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No he didn't. You only make a "formal offer" to someone who has already agreed to become the head coach. All the talk/negotiations with the other candidates never amounted to a formal offer, because all the other terms were never agreed to.
 
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andywilson001 said:
Why would he talk to them if it wasn't about the coaching job? We just fired a coach. We have an opening. They are also a coach. The intent of the conversation is obvious. It's not like they called to talk politics or trade muffin recipes.
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Can you not read and comprehend? You can talk about the job without being offered the JOB! SMDH You do not INTEND to hire or try to hire everyone you talk too. You don't know if you want them until you talk with them. Sometimes I talk with someone just to get there thought process. I am not interested in hiring them. I am just seeing if the way they think would work for me. I have given people I was interested in to companies I thought they would fit in with. Have you been offered every job you interviewed for? If you have it would explain your not being able to grasp what I am saying.
 
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Vol524 said:
Can you not read and comprehend? You can talk about the job without being offered the JOB! SMDH You do not INTEND to hire or try to hire everyone you talk too. You don't know if you want them until you talk with them. Sometimes I talk with someone just to get there thought process. I am not interested in hiring them. I am just seeing if the way they think would work for me. I have given people I was interested in to companies I thought they would fit in with. Have you been offered every job you interviewed for? If you have it would explain your not being able to grasp what I am saying.
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Good grief. You can’t be this dumb.

We got rejected so badly we weren’t even able to offer in most cases. That’s okay, I would not want an AD that starts with contingency sure bets. We tried to land great hires, but we’re not that appealing. There are great coaches that didn’t start as great hires
 
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