Republicans Belief in Evolution plummets

[KingNick865]

Sorry to tell you but there isn't a near consensus. How could you possibly know this? To actually know this you would have to conduct a study with every scientist within the scientific community and find out where they stand. You have not done that. So the best you can say is there is a consensus that believes in evolution.

Evolution is very easy to understand. I guess the many problems associated with it are too difficult for you to understand. I have come to believe that evolution is false through my study of physics and molecular biology.

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Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time – 87% say evolution is due to natural processes, such as natural selection.

Section 5: Evolution, Climate Change and Other Issues | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

 

[Septic]

Sorry to tell you but there isn't a near consensus. How could you possibly know this? To actually know this you would have to conduct a study with every scientist within the scientific community and find out where they stand. You have not done that. So the best you can say is there is a consensus that believes in evolution.

Evolution is very easy to understand. I guess the many problems associated with it are too difficult for you to understand. I have come to believe that evolution is false through my study of physics and molecular biology.

oh snap.

Where'd you go to school anyway?

Edit: I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but you should also google "Project Steve".

 

[FLVOL69]

Are you always so condescending and hostile towards people of faith ? I thought liberals prided themselves on tolerance.

 

[rjd970]

It's amazing to me that we live in the 21st century and there are people who still believe evolution didn't (and isn't still) happening. The specific processes and how it started can be debated ad nauseam, but the fact that it did happen in some form is all but undisputed.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Someone posted a study on the scientific consensus of evolution, and while I can't rememeber the exact figure, it was pretty damn high.

Feel free to research it yourself, unless you're trying to avoid disappointment.

Oh I wouldn't be disappointed at all. Because even if just 1% do not accept evolution as fact, that's enough. See how good the conversation can be if you don't commit logical fallacies all the time?

 

[MercyPercy]

Oh I wouldn't be disappointed at all. Because even if just 1% do not accept evolution as fact, that's enough. See how good the conversation can be if you don't commit logical fallacies all the time?

Look up, weep, pray, whatever.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

oh snap.

Where'd you go to school anyway?

Edit: I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but you should also google "Project Steve".

Whats the sample size? Was all of the scientific community included? Whats the margins of error? So you put up a chart, you want a cookie? All this proves is that how ever many scientists were studied, that number agreed.

So you want me to google a page that is dedicated to defending the teaching of evolution? That wouldn't have any bias to it would it? Please you can do better than that.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Look up, weep, pray, whatever.

:good!:

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

It's amazing to me that we live in the 21st century and there are people who still believe evolution didn't (and isn't still) happening. The specific processes and how it started can be debated ad nauseam, but the fact that it did happen in some form is all but undisputed.

Why? Evolution, the big bang these are all theories that will never be provable. Its all but undisputed by many, but not all.

 

[rjd970]

Why? Evolution, the big bang these are all theories that will never be provable. Its all but undisputed by many, but not all.

What do you mean "provable"? There are mountains of evidence that support it. It is falsifiable.

Unlike faith, certainty is rare in scientific discovery. You seem to want to use it as its weakness, when it fact, it is its greatest strength.

 

[MercyPercy]

Whats the sample size? Was all of the scientific community included? Whats the margins of error? So you put up a chart, you want a cookie? All this proves is that how ever many scientists were studied, that number agreed.

So you want me to google a page that is dedicated to defending the teaching of evolution? That wouldn't have any bias to it would it? Please you can do better than that.

You asked for proof, were given proof, and yet still discount, deny, and deflect.

Raise your hand class if you didn't see this one coming.

 

[Septic]

Whats the sample size? Was all of the scientific community included? Whats the margins of error? So you put up a chart, you want a cookie? All this proves is that how ever many scientists were studied, that number agreed.

So you want me to google a page that is dedicated to defending the teaching of evolution? That wouldn't have any bias to it would it? Please you can do better than that.

About the Scientist Survey

Results for the scientist survey are based on 2,533 online interviews conducted from May 1 to June 14, 2009 with members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), under the direction of Princeton Survey Research Associates International. A sample of 9,998 members was drawn from the AAAS membership list excluding those who were not based in the United States or whose membership type identified them as primary or secondary-level educators.

Founded in 1848, AAAS is the world’s largest general scientific society, and includes members representing all scientific fields. AAAS publishes Science, one of the most widely circulated peer-reviewed scientific journals in the world. Membership in AAAS is open to all.

 

[BartW]

The fact is there are many articles that have debunked evolution, obviously you do not want to look at them. I wonder why there are scientists who completely disagree with evolution? Evolution is untestable in laboratory conditions and therefore can never be proven. I took physics, molecular biology and several anthropology courses in college. I asked each of those professors stances on evolution, I was curious. Each one said that it's an unproven theory that cannot explain everything.

The physicist and molecular biologist said that evolution be responsible for life on earth. My physics professor explained about how precise things have to be for life to exist that simply claiming that all life evolved from single cell organisms is false. The burden of proof is negated when discussing things with atheists because they do not accept the same burden when it is placed on them.

So your statement that you would change your kind is false. Plenty of info exists that debunks evolution and it's easy to research. I base my belief on the information I learned from taking those science courses.

Then you either went to school in the 30s or attended Johnson Bible College

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Then you either went to school in the 30s or attended Johnson Bible College

You would be correct if the 30s were the late 90s and Johnson Bible College was the university of Tennessee.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

About the Scientist Survey

Results for the scientist survey are based on 2,533 online interviews conducted from May 1 to June 14, 2009 with members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), under the direction of Princeton Survey Research Associates International. A sample of 9,998 members was drawn from the AAAS membership list excluding those who were not based in the United States or whose membership type identified them as primary or secondary-level educators.

Founded in 1848, AAAS is the world’s largest general scientific society, and includes members representing all scientific fields. AAAS publishes Science, one of the most widely circulated peer-reviewed scientific journals in the world. Membership in AAAS is open to all.

Yes this definitely constitutes the scientific community. An almost 5 year old study that conducted online interviews lol:. Sure thing, I will take this as undeniable truth. Next.

 

[NEO]

I always love the jump from micro to macro evolution like its no big thang.

 

[Persian Vol]

I've personally never met a professor that was skeptical about evolution.

 

[Septic]

Yes this definitely constitutes the scientific community. An almost 5 year old study that conducted online interviews lol:. Sure thing, I will take this as undeniable truth. Next.

So... Just to be clear, in addition to being unable to remotely grasp evolution, you're now telling me that you also don't understand how statistics work? How the sample sizes work...

Please don't tell anyone you went to UT.

Wasn't it you who was saying that "we atheists" keep coming up for reasons not admit this or that. The reality is you're pushing your head further into the sand, digging in deeper while we all stand around an look on in disbelief.

Have you looked up Project Steve yet?

 

[MercyPercy]

Yes this definitely constitutes the scientific community. An almost 5 year old study that conducted online interviews lol:. Sure thing, I will take this as undeniable truth. Next.

This is just fantastic.

 

[Roustabout]

Oh fun!! The question is vague, and if asked I was also agree. wHATTT!! Has life 'evolved' (changed) biologically? Yes. We can observe several changes.

Since I have three science phds in my immediate family and a close friend who is a biology professor I can offer a little insight. If asked professionally, none of them would answer much different. However, all of them are people of strong faith, and one a church leader.

So, it sounds as if you are stating that truth is determined by opinion poll.

 

[Septic]

Oh fun!! The question is vague, and if asked I was also agree. wHATTT!! Has life 'evolved' (changed) biologically? Yes. We can observe several changes.

Since I have three science phds in my immediate family and a close friend who is a biology professor I can offer a little insight. If asked professionally, none of them would answer much different. However, all of them are people of strong faith, and one a church leader.

So, it sounds as if you are stating that truth is determined by opinion poll.

The poll numbers were in response to BOT's assertion that the scientific community didn't accept evolution.

 

[Orange_Crush]

The poll numbers were in response to BOT's assertion that the scientific community didn't accept evolution.

I don't recall him ever saying that. I seem to remember him saying there was disagreement within the scientific community-- which is a completely different claim.

 

[MercyPercy]

I don't recall him ever saying that. I seem to remember him saying there was disagreement within the scientific community-- which is a completely different claim.

Wrong. He claims there isn't a near scientific consensus. He was so unabashedly incorrect in this statement that I can understand why you're trying to help mold his argument for him.

 

[MercyPercy]

Oh fun!! The question is vague, and if asked I was also agree. wHATTT!! Has life 'evolved' (changed) biologically? Yes. We can observe several changes.

Since I have three science phds in my immediate family and a close friend who is a biology professor I can offer a little insight. If asked professionally, none of them would answer much different. However, all of them are people of strong faith, and one a church leader.

So, it sounds as if you are stating that truth is determined by opinion poll.

So just out of curiosity, what percentage of scientists included in this survey in your opinion might fall into the category you outlined through anecdotal evidence?

 

[Orange_Crush]

The poll numbers were in response to BOT's assertion that the scientific community didn't accept evolution.

Wrong. He claims there isn't a near scientific consensus. He was so unabashedly incorrect in this statement that I can understand why you're trying to help mold his argument for him.

lulz...