Recruiting Forum: Football Talk VIII

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Ky had pulled within 2 at 19-21 but miss state just scored on a pass to the qb
 
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StoVol said:
The last class looks like it's bringing in some help!
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Yeah and the depleted talent in the older classes is what is dictating all the JUCO's in this class. I think it's possible we see more JUCO's next years as well though perhaps not as many. After that I think it tapers off to emergent needs, early NFL departures, career ending injuries, things like that.

The thing about playing to win is there has to be some degree of competitiveness between talent and experience. I think this staff is scoring really high in that regard recruiting-wise right now. I also think that we're seeing considerably more development in the less talented members of the roster as a whole but next year is probably go to see as many as a dozen of the guys we have now wash out. My target is 45+ 4/5 star talent split between both sides of the ball and concentrated in the 3 younger classes.

I think we'll be highly competitive in 2015 but should be solid in 2016 with depth just in time for the Battle at Bristol.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Yeah and the depleted talent in the older classes is what is dictating all the JUCO's in this class. I think it's possible we see more JUCO's next years as well though perhaps not as many. After that I think it tapers off to emergent needs, early NFL departures, career ending injuries, things like that.

The thing about playing to win is there has to be some degree of competitiveness between talent and experience. I think this staff is scoring really high in that regard recruiting-wise right now. I also think that we're seeing considerably more development in the less talented members of the roster as a whole but next year is probably go to see as many as a dozen of the guys we have now wash out. My target is 45+ 4/5 star talent split between both sides of the ball and concentrated in the 3 younger classes.

I think we'll be highly competitive in 2015 but should be solid in 2016 with depth just in time for the Battle at Bristol.
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Many players will see the light next year after this class arrives and takes their playing time. We will lose some receivers and a lb or two. Brian Randolph as a 3 star is a good example of how some players are criminally underrated but this should avg out amongst all teams except Bama. If they sign a guy hell get his 4th star, if they don't land him they say they passed and the services adjust accordingly
 
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Another question:

Why do you think Saban wasn't successful in the NFL?

He is arguably one of the best ever on the collegiate level.

And there have been plenty of coaches successfully make the jump.

So why not him?
 
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Will Redmond just had a big 3rd down stop for state stuffing the ky runner
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Another question:

Why do you think Saban wasn't successful in the NFL?

He is arguably one of the best ever on the collegiate level.

And there have been plenty of coaches successfully make the jump.

So why not him?
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College affords the easy opportunity to gain a talent advantage through recruiting. I don't think it's that simple in the NFL.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Another question:

Why do you think Saban wasn't successful in the NFL?

He is arguably one of the best ever on the collegiate level.

And there have been plenty of coaches successfully make the jump.

So why not him?
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You cannot accumulate vast talent edges in the nfl. Better players make you look like a great coach. If there was a draft in college do you think saban would have even 1 national championship... No, he'd have a record much like he had at mich state
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Another question:

Why do you think Saban wasn't successful in the NFL?

He is arguably one of the best ever on the collegiate level.

And there have been plenty of coaches successfully make the jump.

So why not him?
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I think he has an easier time managing 18-23 year old kid's egos than the egos and personalities of grown men in the NFL.
 
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StoVol said:
Was on road and missed it. What was controversial play in the first inning of that game?
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Something about not completely catching the ball before a transfer to make a throw to first. Ump originally called the player out at 2nd, but was overturned after they all met. Bases were then loaded with I think 1 out. The big deal was I think the umps overturning the call on the field.
 
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VolFromNashville said:
Something about not completely catching the ball before a transfer to make a throw to first. Ump originally called the player out at 2nd, but was overturned after they all met. Bases were then loaded with I think 1 out. The big deal was I think the umps overturning the call on the field.
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Thanks. Heard on radio today cards were butchin about a substance in boston pitchers glove as well. Lol
 
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StoVol said:
You cannot accumulate vast talent edges in the nfl. Better players make you look like a great coach. If there was a draft in college do you think saban would have even 1 national championship... No, he'd have a record much like he had at mich state
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I think this is true. I think Petersen is an example of a guy who can do more with less. I think Richt is an example of a guy who does less with more. Saban I think just plays it straight up, nothing revolutionary, because he knows he has the better athletes. I don't think he's a bad coach. His teams tend to be disciplined and make few mistakes but his edge is in his personnel. I'm beginning to think Butch may be a better coach than Saban. We'll see how it turns out over the next few years once we get a competitive roster. He sure made Spurrier look confused.
 
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