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I think being humiliated and suspended for a few games will deter others from taking money as much as kicking him off the team would. Plus, players want to know a head coach has their back. Butch has created a family atmosphere and kicking Mo off the team for accepting $1350 seems to go against that. Disciplining him by making him repay the money, suspend him for a few games, and do some additional internal punishment would suffice. I'm glad my family didn't disown me when I had a few lapses in judgment during college.

I really like what Wetzel said about amateurism in his article. It's a charade, at least as far as NCAA sports are concerned. We treat them like they're amateur athletes yet use them like they're professionals. It's hypocritical at best; unethical at worst.
 
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I think being humiliated and suspended for a few games will deter others from taking money as much as kicking him off the team would. Plus, players want to know a head coach has their back. Butch has created a family atmosphere and kicking Mo off the team for accepting $1350 seems to go against that. Disciplining him by making him repay the money, suspend him for a few games, and do some additional internal punishment would suffice. I'm glad my family didn't disown me when I had a few lapses in judgment during college.

Great post, OCI :good!:
 
I think being humiliated and suspended for a few games will deter others from taking money as much as kicking him off the team would. Plus, players want to know a head coach has their back. Butch has created a family atmosphere and kicking Mo off the team for accepting $1350 seems to go against that. Disciplining him by making him repay the money, suspend him for a few games, and do some additional internal punishment would suffice. I'm glad my family didn't disown me when I had a few lapses in judgment during college.

This...excellent post, OCI.
 
I think being humiliated and suspended for a few games will deter others from taking money as much as kicking him off the team would. Plus, players want to know a head coach has their back. Butch has created a family atmosphere and kicking Mo off the team for accepting $1350 seems to go against that. Disciplining him by making him repay the money, suspend him for a few games, and do some additional internal punishment would suffice. I'm glad my family didn't disown me when I had a few lapses in judgment during college.

This is a very good point, but they took money, they broke the number one rule in college athletics. If you let him stay and punish players like you said that will only work for some bc there will be others that dont care and do it again. IMO they need to be gone, that way you dont have to worry about it happening again and it sends a message to the rest of the team.
 
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Hubbs seems to think Couch could be done

Too bad for the team, but I hope this is what happens. Kick Couch off the team, do extra training for the rest of the players and move on. Don't need this kind of distraction. Need to make an example of Couch.

I'm disappointed in Couch, personally. He seemed like such a VFL and then he puts the team at risk. No good excuse for this.

As for Bray, I guess I'm not surprised. I now suddenly find myself not caring whether he had a good NFL career, given his obvious selfishness.
 
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All the predictions on this Oregon game seem to be aligning around us getting destroyed by 25-30 points. Haven't seen one that says Oregon can't sleep on the Vols, etc.

Will be curious to see how this weekend goes. Hate the Couch thing happened this week, but guess its good to get it out there and over with.
 
All the predictions on this Oregon game seem to be aligning around us getting destroyed by 25-30 points. Haven't seen one that says Oregon can't sleep on the Vols, etc.

Will be curious to see how this weekend goes. Hate the Couch thing happened this week, but guess its good to get it out there and over with.

Most predictions last week had UT on upset watch and only a 10-12 point favorite over WKU. We saw how that worked out.
 
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Took you all the way to Thursday???

Need more Koolaid IMO

My prediction in my friendly competition with my bama friend is 38-36 vols. boom

And 34-24 A&M. Also boom







I really don't know why but I like LV's prediction of 31-23 Vols. I've not had anything to drink either (maybe I should).
 
Since Hubbs is a mouthpiece for Butch and the football program, I think the statement made this morning by him tells us exactly what Butch is going to do...make a strong example of Couch and use it as a teaching lesson for current and future players by dismissing him from the team. Remember, Butch has to do what is in the best interest of his program, that is currently on probation due to other coaches. My brother-in-law just made a great point...by dismissing Couch, Butch's quick action will show the NCAA that he has "institutional control", and hopefully put us in their good graces. It's a severe penalty for the small amount of money he took, but I think Butch has to look into the future and the tone he sets for his program with this one. Not an easy decision for him.
 
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You should have seen the number of Western Unions the Bi-Lo by the mall used to process in the late 90s-early 2000s. I always laugh at the shock and outrage that's expressed when these stories come out. It speaks to the joke of NCAA enforcement, really. And how some people bury their head in the sand.


Maybe its been addressed before...but let's say the NCAA actually tries to do something, say they shut down Couch and vacate our 5 big 2012 wins. That would be because we 'knowingly' played an ineligible player.

Could UT go back and pull Dooley's buyout and go after what they've already paid him?

That would be fun.
 
If someone can make a thread, we have offered '16 NC(New London) ATH Antonio Williams

Edit: Nvm I misread. We are close to offering
 
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