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Can't believe nobody is talking about Justin Coleman. I thought he looked really well. I know he was going against young wr but north had no room to get open.
 
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BruinVol said:
Again I hope suspension isn't a consequence. Penalties that hurt the entire team should be reserved for severe infractions. Following a hot little number to a bar is far from a severe infraction and should never hurt the entire program
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Why is it so hard to hold a kid accountable? By not doing so, it just leads to more issues. What is so hard to understand? If the rule was stated as "no bars during the season" and the penalty for doing so is a 1 game suspension, then the player has no reason to ask why he is being punished for breaking the rule if he does. He sits for a game. If it costs the team, so be it. Maybe the team leaders would see it as a good time to make an example out of someone.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Why is it so hard to hold a kid accountable? By not doing so, it just leads to more issues. What is so hard to understand? If the rule was stated as "no bars during the season" and the penalty for doing so is a 1 game suspension, then the player has no reason to ask why he is being punished for breaking the rule if he does. He sits for a game. If it costs the team, so be it. Maybe the team leaders would see it as a good time to make an example out of someone.
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I agree with everything you say here except there is zero chance this rule won't be broken. Rules like that are bad rules and put coaches in very bad spots when enforcing them
 
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Every time I'm almost tempted to remove Bruin from my ignore, I see a series of posts like this and decide to keep him there. Who cares about the bar rule. Nobody has any idea how its enforced and no one could ever prove whether it could cost us a championship. It's assanine to discuss.

Much more interested in hearing thoughts and opinions on Maggitt, the QBs, etc. not sure about everyone else.
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree with everything you say here except there is zero chance this rule won't be broken. Rules like that are bad rules and put coaches in very bad spots when enforcing them
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Disagree. Why would coaches be in a bad spot? If your break rule X, your punishment is Y. That's probably the easiest thing a coach does during the course of his day.
 
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vol2002 said:
Every time I'm almost tempted to remove Bruin from my ignore, I see a series of posts like this and decide to keep him there. Who cares about the bar rule. Nobody has any idea how its enforced and no one could ever prove whether it could cost us a championship. It's assanine to discuss.

Much more interested in hearing thoughts and opinions on Maggitt, the QBs, etc. not sure about everyone else.
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Maggitt plays this season IMO

I'm hoping Peterman wins the starting job, just don't think Worley has what it takes. That being said, I'm pulling for whoever starts game 1.

:)
 
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vol2002 said:
Every time I'm almost tempted to remove Bruin from my ignore, I see a series of posts like this and decide to keep him there. Who cares about the bar rule. Nobody has any idea how its enforced and no one could ever prove whether it could cost us a championship. It's assanine to discuss.

Much more interested in hearing thoughts and opinions on Maggitt, the QBs, etc. not sure about everyone else.
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VN resident hall monitor/RA has spoken. I particularly enjoyed him making further evidence of this yesterday with our newest poster.
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree with everything you say here except there is zero chance this rule won't be broken. Rules like that are bad rules and put coaches in very bad spots when enforcing them
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Yeah, just let them run wild and do anything they like. Better for the coaches to just keep their head down and ignore it because holding kids accountable might force them to suspend a kid and in turn hurt the depth chart.

I have NO problem if they suspended 1/2 the team if they break the rules. It's 100% on the players to follow the rules. If they can't, they can call up ole Les and see if he can get his team to vote them in as a transfer.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
Disagree. Why would coaches be in a bad spot? If your break rule X, your punishment is Y. That's probably the easiest thing a coach does during the course of his day.
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Again the punishment is the key and we don't know that. If its a 6am extra workout I have no issue but if playing time is at stake I disagree completely with a rule that every coach knows will be broken
 
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BruinVol said:
Again the punishment is the key and we don't know that. If its a 6am extra workout I have no issue but if playing time is at stake I disagree completely with a rule that every coach knows will be broken
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Ya think most coaches just expect that their players will break any rules they make? I agree that most every team has players that hang out in bars during their season. I also would bet that most teams don't have the rule saying they can't. To say that the players WILL break the rule seems silly to me.
 
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vol2002 said:
Every time I'm almost tempted to remove Bruin from my ignore, I see a series of posts like this and decide to keep him there. Who cares about the bar rule. Nobody has any idea how its enforced and no one could ever prove whether it could cost us a championship. It's assanine to discuss.

Much more interested in hearing thoughts and opinions on Maggitt, the QBs, etc. not sure about everyone else.
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I wasn't going to post this and don't know if you've already seen it but since you asked....

Quarterbacks: Did Nathan Peterman’s performance last night do enough to supplant Worley as the favorite for the job and earn the redshirt freshman more first team reps? One note that may or may not mean much: Peterman took snaps with first team center James Stone during individual drills while Worley worked with second team center Mack Crowder. For the majority of fall camp, Worley worked almost exclusively with Stone while Peterman worked with Crowder. Again, it may not mean much but it’s significant enough to note.
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Vol Practice Report: A change at QB? - FootballTime.com
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
Maggitt plays this season IMO

I'm hoping Peterman wins the starting job, just don't think Worley has what it takes. That being said, I'm pulling for whoever starts game 1.

:)
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Thanks. From what I've read and heard, I agree with you.

On QBs I'm coming back around to Peterman, but I trust the coaches. They see what happens when the media isn't there. If they pick Worley, he'll have my support.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I wasn't going to post this and don't know if you've already seen it but since you asked....



Vol Practice Report: A change at QB? - FootballTime.com
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Yeah saw that earlier. Interesting observation...

I saw somewhere that Coleman was pretty straightforward in an interview yesterday about Peterman having the better arm.

I bet we learn the QB this week. Austin Peay prep starts Thursday so you'd think they want to know soon.
 
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Daloth said:
I agree with this. You don't tell a kid he can't do something that he might've been waiting years to do. Football is a privilege, yes, but so is drinking, driving, voting, and going to college period. No coach should have the right to take any of that away. Limit it? Sure. But not take it out completely.
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I thought it said no bars, not no drinking.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I wasn't going to post this and don't know if you've already seen it but since you asked....



Vol Practice Report: A change at QB? - FootballTime.com
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Careful. Our resident hall monitor(2002) might attack you like he did me when I posted exactly this same info earlier in the week.


Anybody remember the attacks I got for stating a source that watches ever practice saying exactly what a great deal of media is now saying??


Btw Mr hall monitor my source wast a water boy.
 
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#1Volfaninmo said:
I thought it said no bars, not no drinking.
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He did. People act like grown men can't avoid the allure of a bar for 4 months out of the year when there are entry of other places to enjoy alcohol. If they're that feeble minded, they won't be mentally tough enough to be champions anyway. And to whomever said Peyton Manning would have broken that rule had it been in place, he's lost his mind.
 
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jave36 said:
He did. People act like grown men can't avoid the allure of a bar for 4 months out of the year when there are entry of other places to enjoy alcohol. If they're that feeble minded, they won't be mentally tough enough to be champions anyway. And to whomever said Peyton Manning would have broken that rule had it been in place, he's lost his mind.
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Laughable if you think these guys are grown men
 
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I realize this may not be the place, but I wanted to say a big Go Blue in honor of my grandfather who passed away tonight. He was the biggest Michigan fan in the world and we could talk football for hours.
 
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BruinVol said:
Laughable if you think these guys are grown men
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If they are drinking in a bar, they should be 21 years old. That makes them a grown man in my book. If they are drinking in a bar and under 21, they have alot more issues than a coach catching them IMO. Locked up is alot worse than a suspension.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
If they are drinking in a bar, they should be 21 years old. That makes them a grown man in my book. If they are drinking in a bar and under 21, they have alot more issues than a coach catching them IMO. Locked up is alot worse than a suspension.
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A lot of bars are 18 and up. That violates this rule. Far from grown men
 
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Also, I am with Bruin on that I will be surprised if this rule is not broken. However, unless Butch Jones decides to go bar hopping on the strip every night I'd be surprised if anybody actually found out about our players going to bars unless they do something stupid that shows up in the news at which point they would be in trouble whether there was a rule about going to bars or not
 
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