UFO San Diego May 7

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Obsessed said:
violate all known physical theories and laws

That we understand.
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So you think different theories and laws apply to different parts of the universe, despite the fact that we can't see differences in the give-or-take 93 billion lightyears of observable universe?
 
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rockytop9808 said:
So you think different theories and laws apply to different parts of the universe, despite the fact that we can't see differences in the give-or-take 93 billion lightyears of observable universe?
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Your right. We have figured out all the mysterys of earth and the other galaxies.

Earth is nothing more than a peace of sand in the ocean floor.
 
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Obsessed said:
Your right. We have figured out all the mysterys of earth and the other galaxies.

Earth is nothing more than a peace of sand in the ocean floor.
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I am not an astronomer, but I do recall reading those who are saying that shear numbers suggest the existence of other ecosystems in the universe 100,000,000 years older than our own. The universe is generally estimated to be around 13 billion years old, with the Earth being around 5 billion years old, with those numbers subject to change. But let's chalk that down to some planets being 1,000,000 years older than Erth. With the advances in technology over the past 200 years, can you imagine the state of our technology 1,000,000 years from now...or even 1,000 years from now? I don't think we can. If you want to get a glimpse, then try wading into the latest super string theories. History or discovery dot com should have a streaming video to get it started.
 
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Vol Main said:
I am not an astronomer, but I do recall reading those who are saying that shear numbers suggest the existence of other ecosystems in the universe 100,000,000 years older than our own. But let's chalk that down to 1,000,000 years. With the advances in technology over the past 200 years, can you imagine the state of technology 1,000,000 years from now? I don't think we can. If you want to get a glimpse, then try wading into the latest super string theories.
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They have found other "earth like" planets. Some 3 times our mass. I do not find it to be unrealistic that they could have found us first.

It's arrogant to think other wise. (Not implying you are)

Hell look how far cell phones have come in the last 5 years. My greatest fathom is what will be avaiable to my son when he's my age. And then to his children.

Ill check those sites. Thanks for the input
 
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We are not going to be here 1,000,000 years from now unless we make some drastic changes. I wouldn't give us a thousand years the way we're going. And, that's really on the high side.
 
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Slydell said:
We are not going to be here 1,000,000 years from now unless we make some drastic changes. I wouldn't give us a thousand years the way we're going. And, that's really on the high side.
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You very well may be right. We as humans have adapted to what has been thrown at us though. But us not existing, I think not unless a asteroid or something along those lines nails us I think we in some form will still be around.
 
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Obsessed said:
You very well may be right. We as humans have adapted to what has been thrown at us though. But us not existing, I think not unless a asteroid or something along those lines nails us I think we in some form will still be around.
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I think it might well be a water issue. The water we're using has been here since the beginning of time. Not sure how much more we can pollute it and still survive on it.
 
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Slydell said:
I think it might well be a water issue. The water we're using has been here since the beginning of time. Not sure how much more we can pollute it and still survive on it.
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Very true. The earth gives a good belch and no telling what she releases. Much less the reactors in Japan still leaking.
 
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Volmain check out the Illinois sighting in 2000 of may I believe. Cops were among the witness's

Very interesting.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
So you think different theories and laws apply to different parts of the universe, despite the fact that we can't see differences in the give-or-take 93 billion lightyears of observable universe?
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Actually, the latest string theories suggest a universe vastly different from the one we previously perceived. The latest math, which is increasingly accepted, represents a multi-dimensional universe. They are not just talking about a fifth dimension. Also accepted is the existence of matter which our senses and scientific instruments cannot observe. The existence of such so-called "dark matter" which we cannot observe is verified by the effects of its gravity on objects which we can observe. If I recall correctly, dark matter composes about 96% of the matter in the universe. We cannot see it, but we know it is there.
 
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Slydell said:
We are not going to be here 1,000,000 years from now unless we make some drastic changes. I wouldn't give us a thousand years the way we're going. And, that's really on the high side.
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Thinking about the end consequences of what you are saying, you might be comforted with the thought that any specie which survived its own age and advanced technology should be less destructive and malevolent than our own. Of course, bad actors might have survived, but the consciousness of advanced species would have to be evolved in some ways which allowed its escaping self destruction and mutual destruction.
 
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Obsessed said:
They have found other "earth like" planets. Some 3 times our mass. I do not find it to be unrealistic that they could have found us first.

It's arrogant to think other wise. (Not implying you are)

Hell look how far cell phones have come in the last 5 years. My greatest fathom is what will be avaiable to my son when he's my age. And then to his children.

Ill check those sites. Thanks for the input
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The video on string theory might be titled "The Elegant Universe," after a book published on the subject.
 
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Obsessed said:
You very well may be right. We as humans have adapted to what has been thrown at us though. But us not existing, I think not unless a asteroid or something along those lines nails us I think we in some form will still be around.
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Life has not only survived, but thrived, after a major asteroid strike to earth.

People, (mainly the Japanese) killing off the worlds oceans will have a far more reaching impact. Racist or not, this post is truthful.
 
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Watching the you tube Illinois 2000 sightings, I wondered how the opinions of the police officers changed, from before their observations to after their observations. Speculating about extraterrestrial life is one thing. Accepting it as reality actually can be very difficult.

The Fermi Paradox: "The apparent size and age of the universe suggest that many technologically advanced extraterrestrial civilizations ought to exist. However, this hypothesis seems inconsistent with the lack of observational evidence to support it." Observable evidence is lacking for those who have not observed evidence. For those who have observed evidence, there is no longer a lack of evidence.
 
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Obsessed said:
Oh I feel the same. If here, what's the purpose? Surely not to site see.

Opinion on Roswell?
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I am inclined to think that stories told involving extra-terrestrials and Roswell are lies. In approaching said story, I ask myself:

1. How likely do I think it is that an individual person would tell a lie?

2. How likely do I think it is that two or more individuals would conspire to tell the same lie?

3. How likely do I think it is that Government Officials would lie to it's citizens/subjects?

4. How likely do I think it is that Government Officials would coerce certain groups of its own citizens to tell the same lie?

5. How likely do I think it is that extra-terrestrials would come to planet Earth?

6. How likely do I think it is that extra-terrestrials ended up on Earth that were remarkably similar to the depictions given by H.G. Wells in his late 19th century fictional novels and modified by other popular culture works throughout the early twentieth century?

I come to the conclusion that the likelihoods of 1-4 far outweigh the likelihoods of 5-6.

And, when presented with "UFO" reports, I ask myself questions along the lines of:

1. How likely is it that a Government would test prototypes for aircraft?

2. How likely is it that a Government would want to keep these prototypes a secret?

3. How likely is it that a Government would lie to keep these prototypes a secret?

4. How likely is it that extra-terrestrials would be on a tourist vacation to planet Earth?

Again, I find the likelihoods of 1-3 to far outweigh the likelihood of 4.

Does any of this rule out the possibility of the former 5-6 and the latter 4? No. But, it gives me reasons to accept other explanations in lieu of compelling evidence.
 
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3 days. Over/Under?

How long will it take for VolMain to declare himself an expert?
 
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