Explosion in Boston?

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VOLinthaNATI said:
Only fools are questioning if there is enough evidence to keep this guy in jail for the rest of his life. Color me skeptical of him ever being granted parole without an absolute guaranteed public uprising. If you're convicted for knowingly taking part in a plot to blow up innocent civilians you've given up your right to ever being granted parole.
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and one of the many reasons I mentioned there is zero chance of an if it don't fit, you must aquit aquittal of any sorts.
Zero.
This business of he was just standing there and no proof that he threw bombs or whatever is nonsense that only those with no logic would assume.
 
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volmaverick said:
And thats why he should have been charged as an Enemy Combatant..to keep it out of the hands of idiots!

And remove the risk of people like you on said jury!
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That would open the door for any US Citizen to be subject to the same. Bad precedent to start.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
and one of the many reasons I mentioned there is zero chance of an if it don't fit, you must aquit aquittal of any sorts.
Zero.
This business of he was just standing there and no proof that he threw bombs or whatever is nonsense that only those with no logic would assume.
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The problem is that most are doing it under the guise of "fairness."

I do not believe TRUT really cares about being fair so let that be known.
 
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VOLinthaNATI said:
Only fools are questioning if there is enough evidence to keep this guy in jail for the rest of his life. Color me skeptical of him ever being granted parole without an absolute guaranteed public uprising. If you're convicted for knowingly taking part in a plot to blow up innocent civilians you've given up your right to ever being granted parole.
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If you were to wager a guess, what type of individuals do you think will constitute the twelve-person jury? Bright individuals with families, jobs, and better **** to do than be sequestered for a few weeks?

Publicly available evidence:
1. He was walking around with a backpack in the vicinity of where the explosion took place on the 15th.
2. There is a one eyewitness that states he put the backpack down and the backpack exploded.
3. He is in a photograph fleeing the scene of the explosion, it is not certain whether or not he still has his backpack.
4. He was in a car with his brother that was being chased by police. There is testimony from a man who speaks rudimentary English that these two told him they were the marathon bombers and they killed Collier.
5. There was a shootout with police. Pictures show only one individual firing a weapon (maybe both were, but it is not in the pictures). A firearm was found at the scene after Tamerlan was gunned down and then run over by his brother.
6. Explosives detonated during the pursuit. These explosions, however, did not even come close to the magnitude of the two explosions on the 15th. Reports go back and forth as to whether these explosives were pipe-bombs or pressure-cooker IEDs of the type used on the 15th. Whose explosives were they is a solid question.
7. IEDs and pipebombs were found in Tamerlan's apartment. Dzhokhar had a dorm at UMass, Dartmouth.
8. Dzhokhar was found in a boat, police opened fire with over twenty rounds because they could have sworn that he pointed a weapon at them. He was found with no weapon.
9. Dzhokhar confessed to the marathon bombing and the killing of Collier prior to being Mirandized.

That is all the publicly available evidence that I know of. (9) might be inadmissible. And, because of (8), any testimony from officers in the pursuit is going to come under extreme scrutiny. After all, they were so certain that he came out and pointed a weapon in their direction, that they unleashed twenty rounds at him; yet, he was unarmed, so the cops got it wrong. That is huge, and the only way the cops get around that scrutiny is for one of them to admit that he (or a group of them) were actually just trying to kill an unarmed person who presented no immediate threat.

A life sentence with no possibility of parole is going to hinge on either more eyewitness testimony that corroborates the story of the backpack being placed by Dzhokhar and exploding, or video evidence of said event.
 
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VOLinthaNATI said:
The problem is that most are doing it under the guise of "fairness."

I do not believe TRUT really cares about being fair so let that be known.
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I do not care about being fair. Further, I think he did it, because he confessed to doing it. However, that confession might not be admissible. So, according to the evidence that is admissible and depending on the composition of the jury, I think it is quite possible (based on the evidence currently available to the public), that he would not be convicted and sentenced to life.
 
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therealUT said:
I do not care about being fair. Further, I think he did it, because he confessed to doing it. However, that confession might not be admissible. So, according to the evidence that is admissible and depending on the composition of the jury, I think it is quite possible (based on the evidence currently available to the public), that he would not be convicted and sentenced to life.
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I know why you feel the way you do and I do not have a problem with it. You explain yourself more than clearly whether I or anyone else agrees with you or not is a moot point.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Any US citizen that attempts to blow up other citizens..I don't have a problem with it.
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Right, and I have no problem with individuals who murder or rape not having a fair trial so long as we know that they actually committed the murder and rape. But, guess what, the procedure for establishing such reasonable certainty is...a fair ****ing trial!

Imagine that.
 
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Vol Main said:
People have gone to the electric chair on far less evidence then is reported in this case.
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You must have at least one example in mind that prompted you to make this statement. Please share that example.

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Don't know if it's true, but I read that BBs and other materials used in the bombs were found in his dorm room.
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Link?
 
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therealUT said:
Right, and I have no problem with individuals who murder or rape not having a fair trial so long as we know that they actually committed the murder and rape. But, guess what, the procedure for establishing such reasonable certainty is...a fair ****ing trial!

Imagine that.
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You've stated before that you have no problem with people who murder or rape in general...
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Any US citizen that attempts to blow up other citizens..I don't have a problem with it.
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How far do you want to open that door? I'd rather keep it closed myself.

If he was not a citizen, fine, throw his a$$ in a military brig and keep him there for as long as needed.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Whatever floats the boat. As a person who doesnt commit any crimes I could give two ****s about how the government deals with criminals.
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so as a person who doesn't commit crimes you have no need for 4th amendment protection right?
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Whatever floats the boat. As a person who hasn't been charged with any crimes I could give two ****s about how the government deals with criminals.
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FYP

Your point is the same as "if your not quilty why do the police need a search warrant?"
 
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hog88 said:
FYP

Your point is the same as "if your not quilty why do the police need a search warrant?"
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No its I don't care what happens to criminals because I am not one nor will I ever be one. Grind em up into glue or fertilizer for all I care. Hell I'm almost 34 and I have never spoken to a law enforcement officer in my entire life. Nor have I had one speak to me. And I don't count when I hit on the cute FBI chick stationed at Orlando International.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
No its I don't care what happens to criminals because I am not one nor will I ever be one. Grind em up into glue or fertilizer for all I care. Hell I'm almost 34 and I have never spoken to a law enforcement officer in my entire life. Nor have I had one speak to me. And I don't count when I hit on the cute FBI chick stationed at Orlando International.
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I was once charged with felony assault and battery when I wasn't even there, didn't know the event even happened. The police had me convicted and prosecutor talking about a plea deal all off of 1 witness.

That was a mess that I do thank baby Jesus for my rights. So you never know.
 
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