Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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Hart is being scapegoated in this article by overzealous boosters imo. They seem to be more worried about getting their way than doing what is best for the University based on that article, post, whatever it was.

Thanks, carter. I have not been able to really follow the situation for a while. I'm not familiar with the article you mentioned. Are the OG's still firm that it is done, or have they backed off their claims?
 
My point is I don't think you can get a high caliber coach to come to UT unless it's between 3 to 4 mil. Who is left that would be worth it? JMO

Oh I agree 100%. That's why I am so depressed about this hire. I am not sure who you would go after even with $5mil in hand.
 
We should be paying this anyway. Some think Vandy is even paying Franklin this. UT will pay more than $4mil IMO. Maybe more than five.

We better not pay that much unless we get a coach that is worth that much..

No more paying unproven guys outrageous amounts of money
 
We should be paying this anyway. Some think Vandy is even paying Franklin this. UT will pay more than $4mil IMO. Maybe more than five.

Any of the candidates we have on our list that aren't named gruden, don't deserve 4-5 million a year. They haven't done anything.
 
The thing that scares me is that no one can give me any evidence that UT might get this hire right but I can give you plenty of evidence we get it wrong.
 
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I highly doubt we have a hire before next weekend, they wouldn't want to upstage Fulmer's HOF induction.
 
Just my opinion, but realistically who can compete for these recruits against the likes of Spurrier, Saban, Miles, Richt........oh and now even Franklin is ahead of us.
 
Not to offend, but now that gruden said no, is there any actual evidence hart is after anyone right now?
 
Truth.

In the three years prior to his arrival they were averaging only 4 wins a season. In the three years since his arrival Louisville is averaging over 7 wins a season (That was before they beat Rutgers and not including the bowl game).

So, if Louisville wins their bowl game Strong will have averaged 8 wins a season DOUBLE what happened in the three years before he came.

People talk about his recruiting being bad. He is recruiting to Louisville, largely against the SEC/B1G schools due to proximity and he has averaged a 10 point or so bump in recruiting. In fact, his first two years on the job will average about the same recruiting class average as Franklin has at Vandy.

I've said this all before, but it bears repeating.

The difference between Franklin (Im using Franklin as a measuring stick because so many are impressed with what he has done) and Strong is that Strong has actually beaten a ranked team, beaten teams with winning records, won a bowl game. Look at the media love that Franklin is getting (no doubt that is helping recruiting). Do you think UT's first black coach would get a ton of press coverage? Do you think that would help Strong's already solid ability to recruit? I do.

The man has never had a losing season. his record coming into UT would be .608 all time.

Compare that to where we have been since we fired Fulmer. We hired two coaches with all time losing records...this is a huge step forward, even if the fans feel like it is a let down.

End rant. ;)

Basically, what you're saying is...

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Any of the candidates we have on our list that aren't named gruden, don't deserve 4-5 million a year. They haven't done anything.

I am 100% in agreement with this statement. I think we need to pay that much just not to those guys. The rumored numbers for Gruden and staff were mid NFL numbers. I would at least look into the NFL and see who you could get. Someone with college background.
 
Anybody just hear about the 25 yo KC Chiefs player that just shot his girlfriend and killed himself? Ummm how old is EB? They didn't say who it was.
 
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