Official Jon Gruden Thread XII

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VFL27 said:
Topic of Gruden to Vols was just discussed on Around the Horn. The 4 analysts pretty much split on the opinion if it could happen. Those who said it wouldnt gave no reason, but those who said it could cited the mysterious "deny, deny, deny" and tennessee connections as reasons for possibility. Well fellas its hitting the national media now and is picking up steam. We can only hope. Still trust my source.
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If nothing else, this finally hitting the national media will bring it to a conclusion, one way or the other.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Honestly having a hard time comprehending your statement. I seemed to get the gist of it but four or five words in my mind wasnt getting what my eyes were reading.
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Haha I'm burnt out from a day of work and up all night preparing.

Basically: nobody (who is a realistic candidate for the job and is currently on our "list") is appealing.

Jimbo, Strong, Golden . . . . meh
 
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I_Bleed_Orange77 said:
Who the heck knows who Boro's sources are? but most people in here believe everything he says. Believing any of them seems foolish to me.
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It's not a matter of believing, it's a matter of seeing. And so far, what is occurring is nearly exact to what Boro has shared and told us to watch for. The ultimate conclusion is yet to be seen, but the picture Boro has painted over the past few weeks has proved far more accurate in aggregate than the "Johnny come lately's" on the radio.
 
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shocka2430 said:
I don't post much but I just wanted to say that I'm glad your posting what you do and that if they turn out to be wrong you'll be man enough to take your lumps. These guys attacking you can get on here and say what they want because they have nothing else to do and seems like they like to argue. If you guys don't believe him and don't think he is right, you don't have to post and you don't have to be in this thread. If your just out looking for an ecred fight I'm sure there is other places to go get it. You'll never win any ecred fight anyways since your not bringing nothing to the table. So believe or don't but just let the people that want to be here read what the OGs are saying and ya'll go on to the other threads and build your post count. That's all.

Go Vols!!!
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This ^^^^^

Loong time lurker...1st time poster.
 
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We are missing a point. If Gruden was not interested. He could have ended all speculation by mentioning today's meeting cancellation saying he was happy where h was.
He was on air deflecting the question knowing that, at least at the time, he was scheduled to meet with Hart.
 
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This game hasn't played out yet !!

I choose to dance with who brung me, respect to all the OG's for their info. If it proves that they were wrong,... I bet it's a HE!! of a story, I would enjoy hearing fully at an appropriate time.
 
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I'm hoping I'm allowed to quote myself here... again, none of this makes sense when you look at it from the 30,000 ft view. Read the facts and put together your own puzzle.

Vol-in-Bham said:
VN is in total meltdown and it is all because of Hyams. Hilarious.

Remember when we were mad that no one was reporting anything about Gruden? And that media steam would start to pick up leading up to Friday? Now we get media steam picking up -- now admitting we are going after him -- and everyone loses it.

Fact: Hart fired Dooley before Kentucky game. If we didn't have our guy, why not trot him out against KY while you continue your search? Yea fans would be mad, but it doesn't really matter because you're not going to a bowl either way.

Fact: We have $18 million back from no longer donating to University. This mysteriously happens a few days after firing Dooley. Do you need $18 million to hire anyone else?

Fact: Neither UT nor Gruden have officially squashed the rumor. One of the two had the perfect opportunity to do so. The other one either has the worst PR department in the entire NCAA by not squashing it, or knows something is up and has been told not to talk.

Fact: Hart has been spotted at sporting events like Lady Vols Soccer, Men's Basketball, etc... instead of doing his most important job, the hire that drives the Athletic Department? Illogical.

Fact: Hyams has been a day late and a dollar short several times. See: Kiffin hire.

Fact: Hyams works for the radio station most closely associated with UT.

Fact: We have (publicly) been on the coaching search for well over a week. We're just now interviewing? Illogical.

Fact: Saban and Meyer both denied involvement with their universities 4 days before accepting.

Fact: Nothing has leaked from AD this entire time. First leak is a negative to get off back of Gruden. Why would you leak that? Illogical unless to get pressure off Gruden, set up Hart as the AD who "rescued" the deal.

Fact: Gruden has been waiting to get every last penny from Tampa Bay firing. Unknown when that last check hits, but could be reason to make a delay happen.

Fact: Ownership changes in NFL require NFL Owner's approval. No one offered anyone a $100 million stake in the Browns. Gruden can easily deny this, but note how quickly he moved on.

Smoke, all of it.

No inside info, just my two cents.
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Also: of course I didn't mention the OGs since we all know about that, but I won't count it as fact simply because I don't know them. (I am 100% in with them though.)

OGs come on at ~2:30pm with BOOM! and awesome news. Let's think a minute... ink is dry? Deal confirmed and done?

At 2:51pm Sports Animal puts on Twitter they have breaking news that breaks at 3:05pm. New is ONLY that there was a meeting scheduled, and canceled. Literally non-news. Not worth reporting unless we are still engaged, otherwise you would report that he is officially out.

Doesn't say anything about why which is of course the most important part. Rescheduled? Deal already complete and no need to meet? Met last night so of course today is canceled?

If the meeting is rescheduled for a few hours or days later this is suddenly a non-event. If it is canceled because everything is already finalized (last night?) then it is a non-event. It's so vague and ambiguous that it means nothing. But it is good for driving listeners and page views.

Again, why is the first leak negative? If Gruden were out why wouldn't you put out a press release or statement? Wait, didn't Ainge read something from Jimmy Stanton this morning on air (I didn't hear so I didn't put this as a fact) that they wouldn't address any rumors?

And shouldn't we be suspicious that Hyams and Hubbs -- again, both with significant ties to AD -- think we have 0% chance, essentially don't report anything, and then suddenly have some juicy news to report back to back? But never reported the meeting was happening in the first place and were claiming there was no chance that we would even be at the table?

One more thing... remember Hart's requirements of a HC. Which of the other candidates mentioned (Golden, Strong, et al) meets all of the requirements?

Take a step back and use some logic. It doesn't add up if you take the radio story and run with it. I highly doubt we get the $18 million back from academic donation without knowing why we were going to use it.

I'm out for a little bit. Soon.
 
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MFL said:
That's what my CBS local news just reported. It's over and you folks need to bail from this thread and kill it's post count now. It's been most entertaining. Lets kill this thread now. It's the mother of all embarassments to a once proud program. GOVOLS and goodnight
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Bye then..
 
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SayNoToJorts said:
I live in Atlanta and the limo companies work around the clock. And they don't run out of them.
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I'm talking about the rental car companies - not limo companies.

I'm sure you can find limos on 11/28 in atlanta.

I assumed they were talking rentals since Hertz was connected.
 
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Regulator said:
By idiot, I assume you mean we Grudenites. Note that many of the folks that sTROLL through here wouldn't willingly give any candidate a chance, Gruden or otherwise.

Insufferable, armchair AD idiots.

I am optimistic it's Gruden, but if not, I'm confident that Hart will make a solid hire that is right for UT Football and the fan base, in that order

Gruden 2012
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I am not.
 
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