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bcartervol98 said:
More of the massive hit his draft stock took after Vandy imo. Every NFL scout knows he has the best arm in college football but the questions about his leadership, attitude, and game "Generalship" were all answered in front of the wrong people at Vandy and the answer wasn't good.

Before that game I would have put him in the top 2 QBs coming out of the combine, and things could change, but as of right now I am certain he will return.
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thanks... I was just wondering.... I knew you had said earlier you thought he was gone...

I knew he hurt himself with Vandy.... Just not how bad
 
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destair said:
Have you changed your stance on Bray?
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Yes, the Vandy game all but guarantees he will be back. Too many questions got answered in the wrong way. He needed to crush it these last two games to keep his stock high. He knows he needs another year and with the hire our program will be back in the spotlight, that cannot hurt his improving his skill and draft stock next year.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
This person knows nothing about Tyler Bray.

Bray will be back next year, book it, but this post is garbage.[/QUOTE

And, not asking for you to believe me either and like I said til gruden screws his loose burnt head back on his shoulder he's benched yes tyler can be back next year. So u believe tylers an angel huh? until he focuses on football he "is not" goin to nfl thanks
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bcartervol98 said:
More of the massive hit his draft stock took after Vandy imo. Every NFL scout knows he has the best arm in college football but the questions about his leadership, attitude, and game "Generalship" were all answered in front of the wrong people at Vandy and the answer wasn't good.

Before that game I would have put him in the top 2 QBs coming out of the combine, and things could change, but as of right now I am certain he will return.
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There aren't any top qbs coming out this year. Matt Barkley was exposed and the only other qb that could go ahead of Bray is Wilson. I could easily see him going in the first round. Teams are willing to take chances on qbs, its happened the past two drafts with Tannehill, Ponder, and Gabbert.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
More of the massive hit his draft stock took after Vandy imo. Every NFL scout knows he has the best arm in college football but the questions about his leadership, attitude, and game "Generalship" were all answered in front of the wrong people at Vandy and the answer wasn't good.

Before that game I would have put him in the top 2 QBs coming out of the combine, and things could change, but as of right now I am certain he will return.
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I agree with all you say here but is this your opinion or coming from the family which I know you are close to?
 
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And, not asking for you to believe me either and like I said til gruden screws his loose burnt head back on his shoulder he's benched yes tyler can be back next year. So u believe tylers an angel huh? until he focuses on football he "is not" goin to nfl thanks
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No just have been around him enough in settings where if he wanted to partake in drugs he could have, and did not even though most everyone else was. Every kid his age likes to party, I did, Peyton did, everyone. Partying and being "in love with drugs" are completely separate assertions.
 
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UTodd01 said:
One of the few hires that wouldn't make me revolt.
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Come on Todd be more positive than that. We just for rid of one of the worst coaches ever at tenn and you can only get excited about two names!! There are a number of coaches out there that will make us big winners again
 
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volatil said:
Don't really blame him. He has a business to protect. If he dealt with rumors and was wrong, he would lose all credibility and therefore his business would suffer.
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I don't know- Hyams still has a job.
 
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BruinVol said:
Come on Todd be more positive than that. We just for rid of one of the worst coaches ever at tenn and you can only get excited about two names!! There are a number of coaches out there that will make us big winners again
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Buck Fitzgerald said he knows tons of top recruits that would sign this year if UT hired Strong. That may include Jalen Ramsey too since he is really close to the Ramseys
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
There aren't any top qbs coming out this year. Matt Barkley was exposed and the only other qb that could go ahead of Bray is Wilson. I could easily see him going in the first round. Teams are willing to take chances on qbs, its happened the past two drafts with Tannehill, Ponder, and Gabbert.
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Not for any arguement either way. But where is Landry Jones projected? You think Sam Bradfords experience will keep his stock down? He seems like he has been at Oklahoma for a decade now.
 
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Volholic said:
Why's that? Didn't Hart himself say it could be mid-December?
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Exactly. It is foolish on our part to put any timeline on this. If it's Gruden, it will happen when it happens, and I have no doubt he can step in and immediately make an impact.

Not as confident in most of the other candidates, though, with the exception of Stoops and Fisher (who I feel are both longer shots than Gruden with much less hard information, just rumors that they may have some sort of interest).
 
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