Official Jon Gruden Thread IV

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They could still be welcomed with open arms.. Not sure why it's so hard to call someone first instead of just barging in.. It's about the players getting prepared in practice.. They need focus.. An unexpected visitor could disrupt focus.

maybe it was put in place after Travis Henry showed up with his brood...that would be very distracting,about like having a spring game crowd...
 
he doesn't know them. If a guy like Al Wilson wants to come back wouldn't you want to introduce him to the team? Take a little time and make sure you have your facts straight about him?

there are lots of problems with Dooley but I just don't see this as that big of one



I don't see why not

I agree. The call ahead doesn't have anything to do with winning games. This part of the Dools witch-hunt should end.

Gruden 2012 and beyond.
 
he doesn't know them. If a guy like Al Wilson wants to come back wouldn't you want to introduce him to the team? Take a little time and make sure you have your facts straight about him?

there are lots of problems with Dooley but I just don't see this as that big of one



I don't see why not

What all is there to need to know other than Al Wilson was a former Vol great...don't take much time to rehearse that
 
Think maybe this calling issue is one for the players to address, not us. We can have our opinions, but we're not afftected by it.
 
They play in front of screaming fans every game, cowbells, loud music, coach's screaming. Just dont see that as a distraction.

Practice is different.. U need to listen to, and absorb everything the coaches are trying to relay to u.. There r times to prepare for game distractions, but it's not throughout all practice.
 
Someone... I'm listening to the Treece show, he just said something about a photo or something being photoshopped. What was he talking about? I was on the phone and caught half of it. Thanks!

I caught tail end of it too
 
he doesn't know them. If a guy like Al Wilson wants to come back wouldn't you want to introduce him to the team? Take a little time and make sure you have your facts straight about him?

there are lots of problems with Dooley but I just don't see this as that big of one

I don't care either way. His lack of coaching ability has nothing to with this. And this is not why he's gonna be fired.

Its pretty obvious this has caused some issues with former lettermen. (some of which post here)
 
I don't have a problem with the call ahead rule. But, I would have also assigned one of the many underlings running around the practice field with the specific task of looking out for any former players, greeting them and explaining to them what they were working on at that point in practice.

As a head coach I wouldn't have time to worry about who was coming to practice, but I would make sure to minimize distractions.
 
Let me say this: to squash all the Dooley coming back next year rumors, wouldn't Hart come out and publicly deny the Gruden rumors? Because, let's face it, if you knew Dooley was being granted an extra year to coach, the ABSOLUTE worst thing to lead the fanbase to believe is that a Super Bowl coach would be coaching their team next year only to pull the rug out from under them. Like others keep saying, the silence is deafening.
 
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What all is there to need to know other than Al Wilson was a former Vol great...don't take much time to rehearse that

so it's Florida week and the coach shouldn't mention his performance against the gators in 98? Isn't part of being a legend having people tell your stories over and over?
 
Let me say this: to squash all the Dooley coming back next year rumors, wouldn't Hart come out and publicly deny the Gruden rumors? Because, let's face it, if you knew Dooley was being granted an extra year to coach, the ABSOLUTE worst thing to lead the fanbase to believe is that a Super Bowl coach would be coaching their team next year only to pull the rug out from under them. Like others keep saying, the silence is deafening.

Hart wouldn't do it til after the season is over...If Dooley lost one or more of these games he couldn't support him at all...hell...he shouldn't now.
 
Talk about empty seats, I got 6 together upper deck free about a month ago for Troy. Since then I have been given 9 tickets in section S and two parking passes, one in 9 and one at 11th street lol. Out of 42 total season tickets my company has there are none being used except for me to take my son to his first game.

So yes, there will be a lot of empty seats. I might try to sell extras for $10 or so at the game, but may just use them for smoking passes to be honest. I do not feel the prospects are good for selling them lol.
 
I'm waiting on the dreaded vote of confidence...if we hear that,Gruden is signed,sealed and delivered
 
Yeah ..hate to break it to you , but more players commit to coaches these days than the schools...School loyalty is dying

First off, you're not breaking anything to me.. I know plenty about the way recruiting is.. It's kinda related to my job.. Second, we better hope CDD really did recruit the right type of kids, because losing a big chunk of the roster again from another coaching change could kill the next few seasons..
 
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Time for Fun With Math:

7 home games next year.

Let's estimate at least 20,000 empty, unsold seats. I think that's conservative, but let's roll with it.

$45 minimum ticket cost. Let's just go with $50 as the average price for those 7 games.

$50 x 20,000 tickets unsold = $1,000,000 per game x 7 games = $7,000,000

You're telling me we can't afford a buyout? Are you serious? And that is on the conservative side of things. If it were 25,000 tickets = $8.75 mil... 30,000 tickets = $10.5 mil...

And that's not even counting donations coming into play.

This alone, not even counting all the great info from DTO, Boro, Jay, etc., makes me believe there will be a change. We can't afford to not have a change.

I remember reading in On Rocky Top (Clay Travis' book where he followed the team for the disastrous 2008 season) and how the coaching search for Kiffin went down. Very secretive, lots of smoke screens about going after different coaches, tracking the plane, they drove to Atlanta in a different vehicle instead of flying to keep it off the radar... etc.

Although that hire didn't end up being the right one, I feel like in this situation we're going to hear lots of different things, rumors intentionally leaked out of AD, rumors leaked by agents, lots of smoke to distract media and fans from what is really happening.

Whether or not Cheek, Hart, anyone in the AD is slowing up the process or not (or if this is an intentional rumor), the big money guys will win out. That's how it works in our particular situation.

We've realized we did what Alabama did in the early 2000s with Franchione, Price, and Shula from 2001-2006. Blew up in their face, went with the safe hire, and proceeded to be mediocre for 4 seasons (26-23, 13-19 in conference). Then roll out the big dollars for the big coach.

The same thing must happen at Tennessee. Fire a legend, hire a flash in the pan, panic safe hire, rebuild the roster from a pure # of players on scholarship perspective, now it is time for the grand slam hire.

SOON.
 
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