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From Saturdays the softer most posters get. By Wednesday of every loss most have decided to lower expectations and stick with CDD.

That's weak. Hell Zook was 16-8 during the same time CDD has went 4-16 and UF fired him. Not good ol rocky top.

Expectations should be. Compete for the East every year.

Win SEC once every 5-7 years.

National Championship contenders every 10 years.

Average 10 wins per season.

Anything less than that is just trash.
 
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It's Hump day? It's Halloween? We play an unranked out of conference foe? The start of the second season? Heck come Sat night after a win there will still be some pissed off peeps in here.
 
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No we realize Hart will wait until seasons end to do anything... We have no major games in which Dooley can save his job but nails could be added to coffin depending on teams performance
 
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25801VOL said:
From Saturdays the softer most posters get. By Wednesday of every loss most have decided to lower expectations and stick with CDD.

That's weak. Hell Zook was 16-8 during the same time CDD has went 4-16 and UF fired him. Not good ol rocky top.

Expectations should be. Compete for the East every year.

Win SEC once every 5-7 years.

National Championship contenders every 10 years.

Average 10 wins per season.

Anything less than that is just trash.
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Yeah. Zook took over a team in 2002 that Spurrier had number 1 or 2 all year in 2001 until we whipped his ass on the swamp at the end of the year. Florida was SEC champs in 99 & 2000. Zook then proceeded to do nothing with it. He had no sanctions, no turmoil, no two coaches in one year to deal with or anything of that nature. He had the best recruiting base in the nation. He had an excellent recent tradition of winning to boot.
So when you compare Dooley to Zook, you will see that you really can't. Objectively anyway. But don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good Dooley bash. VN would never allow that. Would they?
 
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25801VOL said:
From Saturdays the softer most posters get. By Wednesday of every loss most have decided to lower expectations and stick with CDD.

That's weak. Hell Zook was 16-8 during the same time CDD has went 4-16 and UF fired him. Not good ol rocky top.

Expectations should be. Compete for the East every year.

Win SEC once every 5-7 years.

National Championship contenders every 10 years.

Average 10 wins per season.

Anything less than that is just trash.
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Didn't we fire fulmer 9-3? Its sad how people have lowered their expectations for this program to "oh yea having a winning season and going 6-6, 7-5 is a good year" BS, that is terrible. We just built a 200 million dollar training facility, are we going to fill it with 2-3 star recruits??

Pay a big name, big money and get big results.... check the other head coaches in the SEC and their salaries.
 
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I understand these will always be our expectations, but what were the preseason expectations of this season in particular? Only the delusional would've seen us winning 10 games this year, so, in theory, we should've just fired Dooley before the season even started
 
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The closer we get to Saturday, the more I want the man fired. I realize the risk of us losing to Troy. You can have the best army in the world, if the general leads them off a cliff, it's not going to turn out so well.
 
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Majorvol23 said:
I understand these will always be our expectations, but what were the preseason expectations of this season in particular? Only the delusional would've seen us winning 10 games this year, so, in theory, we should've just fired Dooley before the season even started
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you really think 9 wins and a bowl victory was delusional at start of year

at start of year little was expected of florida and conner shaw couldnt pass - mstate was coming off a losing season

you think 3-3 vs GA, USCjr, FLA, Bama, Mstate, Ncstate was a delusional expectation?

for a good coach that was not a delusional expectation to go 9-3 with the talent we have on this team
 
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PimpVol said:
Yeah. Zook took over a team in 2002 that Spurrier had number 1 or 2 all year in 2001 until we whipped his ass on the swamp at the end of the year. Florida was SEC champs in 99 & 2000. Zook then proceeded to do nothing with it. He had no sanctions, no turmoil, no two coaches in one year to deal with or anything of that nature. He had the best recruiting base in the nation. He had an excellent recent tradition of winning to boot.
So when you compare Dooley to Zook, you will see that you really can't. Objectively anyway. But don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good Dooley bash. VN would never allow that. Would they?
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I never knew a 2 point win was an ass whipping. If that's the case, then Dooley has had 5 for sure this year.

Zook also embarrassed us in our house in his first try.
 
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SCvol333 said:
you really think 9 wins and a bowl victory was delusional at start of year

at start of year little was expected of florida and conner shaw couldnt pass - mstate was coming off a losing season
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This proves how useless preseason predictions are. Those 3 caveats turned out to be false, and we lost those games.

And yes, 10 wins was the height of all predictions I saw, and for a team that went 5-7 the year prior and didn't even know how to win ... yes, 10 wins was a stretch and an absolute best case scenario. I don't recall seeing anyone predicting 11 wins for us

The 3 preseason "truths" regarding UF, USCe, and MsSt turned out to be inaccurate - People's mindsets are angered because expecations weren't met, yet those expectations were based on unknowns and false assumptions
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I never knew a 2 point win was an ass whipping. If that's the case, then Dooley has had 5 for sure this year.

Zook also embarrassed us in our house in his first try.
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Exactly, Zook's 2002 team was ranked #10 when they came into our house, with us ranked #4, and they blew us out 30-13. I know many consider the 01 LSU/SECCG to be the beginning of the end for Coach Fulmer and our elite status as a program, but I still think that Florida debacle was the first time we really realized it. :banghead2:
 
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Regardless of the day, Dooley can't coach. Oh, and I still want him gone. 24/7
 
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25801VOL said:
From Saturdays the softer most posters get. By Wednesday of every loss most have decided to lower expectations and stick with CDD.

That's weak. Hell Zook was 16-8 during the same time CDD has went 4-16 and UF fired him. Not good ol rocky top.

Expectations should be. Compete for the East every year.

Win SEC once every 5-7 years.

National Championship contenders every 10 years.

Average 10 wins per season.

Anything less than that is just trash.
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I agree 100%
 
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PimpVol said:
Yeah. Zook took over a team in 2002 that Spurrier had number 1 or 2 all year in 2001 until we whipped his ass on the swamp at the end of the year. Florida was SEC champs in 99 & 2000. Zook then proceeded to do nothing with it. He had no sanctions, no turmoil, no two coaches in one year to deal with or anything of that nature. He had the best recruiting base in the nation. He had an excellent recent tradition of winning to boot.
So when you compare Dooley to Zook, you will see that you really can't. Objectively anyway. But don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good Dooley bash. VN would never allow that. Would they?
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****. You are becoming one of my fav posters.
 
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PimpVol said:
Yeah. Zook took over a team in 2002 that Spurrier had number 1 or 2 all year in 2001 until we whipped his ass on the swamp at the end of the year. Florida was SEC champs in 99 & 2000. Zook then proceeded to do nothing with it. He had no sanctions, no turmoil, no two coaches in one year to deal with or anything of that nature. He had the best recruiting base in the nation. He had an excellent recent tradition of winning to boot.
So when you compare Dooley to Zook, you will see that you really can't. Objectively anyway. But don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good Dooley bash. VN would never allow that. Would they?
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Dooley is ZERO for a career against ranked teams and let a WR at QB end the winning streak against Kentucky. Those are the only facts I need to know.
 
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