Dooley will not be the coach next season.

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cutnitclose said:
It is not as simple as that... To be honest CDD is not a POS and deserves to be treated with respect... I can promise you that he gave it his all, but it hasn't worked out very well...

Also the name Dooley carries a lot weight... The name also includes Vince and Barbara... The whole family is thought of highly through out most the coaching profession and potential candidates will pay close attention to how it plays out...

If/When CDD is let go it will be for lack of improvement... not because he is a bad guy...


Sure it is a business decision if it happens, but it needs to be handled the right way...


The bad taste of the Fulmer fiasco still lingers for some folks..... Like him or hate him, he had a lot of pull and influence...
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I could care less what the guys last name is. I do agree he should be treated with respect. But he sucks as a football coach

Time to fire him and move on for the better of our program and sanity.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Utah has been steadily declining with Whittingham.

They lost to Utah State earlier this season.
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Utah St beat them in the second week of the season at home. Utah St lost to Wisconsin by 2 and BYU by 3, they are not a terrible team.

Utah beat BYU and played USC, UCLA and Oregon St tough.

Whittingham has shown he can coach, recruit and win. I think Peterson would be the better hire but Whittingham would not upset me.
 
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coach31 said:
If Petrino was hired and went out and won 10 games the first year a lot of his issues would be forgotten by the hand wringers on here.
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Agreed and day 1 he would be the best coach in the east. 9-10 is doable and it's doable right away

He would have a better program to sell than he ever has and has far more credentials than dd so don't see recruiting as a problem at all
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
+1

That is how I see it as well. Someone is going to hire him and someone is going to win alot of games. I think people deserve another chance when they screw up IF they seem to realize what they have done and own up to it. He did that in the presser I saw. The man seemed genuine to me and IMO, alot of recruits parents would see the same thing.
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The pro bobby p crowd will gain in numbers very quickly the next few week. I am willing to be the president of the fan club!
 
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VolNExile said:
Not the best value, if by value you mean max quality for min cost. Just the cheapest.

Didn't his pro players hate him, along with everything else?
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Best value as in Wins Vs salary. I get people don't like the man. Those who judge would never make a mistake I suppose. When a person does, all they can do is pay the price and move on. I get alot of fans would not want him hired here. I would not mind it. It's my opinion.
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OK, I do understand this reasoning, especially after these long painful years.

But he doesn't seem to like to stick around anywhere for very long (mostly by his own choice, lol), and the last thing this program needs is another bolter.

I'm also not convinced that he would want to take on a project like UT, or at least, not long enough to get the job done. I can easily imagine him staying here just long enough to shine up his image a bit, especially with the help of time, and then bolt for something else.

Again, that would be just disastrous for UT football.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Then I guess I have no beef with your opinion then. You're consistent at least.

And I agree the offense still could have been better, I just think compared to Dooley and Sunseri, it's small potatoes.
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MSU followed up with the showing against BAMA changed my view. I tried to stay positive as long as possible.

The lack of any game changing improvement is disturbing and, I can no longer support the current path. We can bicker about which is less terrible, but in the end it doesn't matter.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
so you fault him for winning with a team that Dungy couldnt and then you fault him in the very next sentence for a team that he built making it to the super bowl? did the raiders actually play in the super bowl that year? i dont remember.
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Yes, the Raiders played Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl that year. Bill Callahan was the coach that year..
 
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VolNExile said:
OK, I do understand this reasoning, especially after these long painful years.

But he doesn't seem to like to stick around anywhere for very long (mostly by his own choice, lol), and the last thing this program needs is another bolter.

I'm also not convinced that he would want to take on a project like UT, or at least, not long enough to get the job done. I can easily imagine him staying here just long enough to shine up his image a bit, especially with the help of time, and then bolt for something else.

Again, that would be just disastrous for UT football.
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Hart could protect UT from that very easily.

10 million dollar buyout IF he left UT before his 5 year contract were up. Petrino would not have alot of leverage at the bargaining table. He would accept that as part of his deal. If he wants to coach at UT for 2 years, get us 19-20 wins and then pay 10 million to leave....let him do it. Next time we are looking for a coach we are shopping with money already in the bank rather than hoping someone fits the bill.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Hart could protect UT from that very easily.

10 million dollar buyout IF he left UT before his 5 year contract were up. Petrino would not have alot of leverage at the bargaining table. He would accept that as part of his deal. If he wants to coach at UT for 2 years, get us 19-20 wins and then pay 10 million to leave....let him do it. Next time we are looking for a coach we are shopping with money already in the bank rather than hoping someone fits the bill.
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Well, it sure would be a nice change for a coach to have to pay US when he left. :thumbsup:
 
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theutvolunteers said:
MSU followed up with the showing against BAMA changed my view. I tried to stay positive as long as possible.

The lack of any game changing improvement is disturbing and, I can no longer support the current path. We can bicker about which is less terrible, but in the end it doesn't matter.
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Yep, in the end, it tastes like crap stew.
 
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BruinVol said:
The pro bobby p crowd will gain in numbers very quickly the next few week. I am willing to be the president of the fan club!
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I'd jump on that bandwagon. I think Petrino knows he can't afford another misstep. Someone's gonna give him another chance and he'll make them a winner cause the dude can flat out coach. Why wouldn't we want that?
 
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DenverVol01 said:
I'd jump on that bandwagon. I think Petrino knows he can't afford another misstep. Someone's gonna give him another chance and he'll make them a winner cause the dude can flat out coach. Why wouldn't we want that?
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No doubt. All these posters saying we have to get a proven winner but aren't willing to say bobby p is a home run are living in a fantasy world where coaches are all great men of moral character.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Hart could protect UT from that very easily.

10 million dollar buyout IF he left UT before his 5 year contract were up. Petrino would not have alot of leverage at the bargaining table. He would accept that as part of his deal. If he wants to coach at UT for 2 years, get us 19-20 wins and then pay 10 million to leave....let him do it. Next time we are looking for a coach we are shopping with money already in the bank rather than hoping someone fits the bill.
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Didn't he agree to basically that at Arkansas to prove he wasn't going to leave. I don't think it would be a hard sale.

EDIT looked it up, it was $18M, mutual buyout. Arkansas got around it with a morals clause.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
so you fault him for winning with a team that Dungy couldnt and then you fault him in the very next sentence for a team that he built making it to the super bowl? did the raiders actually play in the super bowl that year? i dont remember.
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I should've clarified my statement. His fault is that the bucs slowly declined after that year and they replaced him with a guy with no experience. That's not the coach we deserve. And yeah the raiders made it to the super bowl that year. That began their demise as well...
 
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One thing everyone is seeming to miss about bobby p is that he has never had anywhere close to the sec defense folks are cussing for right now. The all offense approach is similar to what we are dealing with right now.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Amazing.

What part of we scored enough to win 3 of the 4 games we lost do you not understand. Why are you not busting Sunseri's chops for not keeping the other team from scoring so much?
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Second half offensive scoring

We'll start with the 2010 season since Kiffen essentially did a majority of the play calling when he was the SEC.

2010

UT-Martin- 40 points
Oregon- 0
Florida- 14
UAB- 9 (including two overtimes)
LSU- 9
UGA- 7
Alabama- 0
S. Carolina- 14
Memphis- 10
Mississippi- 21
Vanderbilt- 10
Kentucky- 10
North Carolina- 10 (including two overtimes)

2011
Montana- 14
Cincinnati- 17
Florida- 16
Buffalo- 10
Georgia- 6
LSU- 0
Alabama- 0
South Carolina- 0
MTSU- 0
Arkansas- 0
Vanderbilt- 13 (including pick 6 in OT to win)
Kentucky- 7

2012

NC State- 13
Ga. State- 23
Florida- 6
Akron- 24
UGA- 14
Miss. State 17
Alabama- 3

With Chaney as the OC playcaller we look like this in the second half...

For then entire schedule, we average 10.5 ppg in the second half.

Against SEC opponents, we average 8.35 ppg in the second half.

These stats include overtimes, turnovers that put us in scoring position before the offense took the field, and defensive scores.

Amazing. :whistling:
 
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#545
Don't worry guys, I have the solution. I just need to graduate. Ever since I got here in 2008 the entire athletic department has more or less suffered the worst times in their respective history. (Except maybe Men's Basketball)
 
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HUD2000 said:
One thing everyone is seeming to miss about bobby p is that he has never had anywhere close to the sec defense folks are cussing for right now. The all offense approach is similar to what we are dealing with right now.
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It's a very different approach than we are seeing right now. His offenses scored more than the other teams at a pace his programs hasn't done before.
 
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It should also be noted that Chaney has had three full recruiting seasons and one partial recruiting season to get the type of players he wants on offense and Sunseri has only had a part of one recruiting season to find players to fill voids in the 3-4 offense he is trying to implement.

I agree that Sunseri's defense is atrocious but he atleast has the excuse that he has not had the time to recruit the players he wants for his defensive scheme. You cannot say the same for Chaney.
 
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volmaniac18 said:
It should also be noted that Chaney has had three full recruiting seasons and one partial recruiting season to get the type of players he wants on offense and Sunseri has only had a part of one recruiting season to find players to fill voids in the 3-4 offense he is trying to implement.

I agree that Sunseri's defense is atrocious but he atleast has the excuse that he has not ahd teh tiem to recruit the players he wants for his defensive scheme. You cannot say the same for Chaney.
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If you want Chaney gone, then there is no reason you should want Dooley to stay either.
 
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