'13 GA DE Carl Lawson (Auburn commit)

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OCIVol said:
If UT hired Petrino, and he won big, nobody would care about his past transgressions. It's just how things work in the SEC.
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Sadly, I think you are partially correct. You said NOBODY would care, which I disagree with. I certainly don't want him representing us, but I have a feeling not everyone values integrity over winning. Dooley, by all accounts, is doing it the right way, and representing us off the field in a respectable manner. He just isn't a difference-maker as a coach I'm afraid in terms of wins.
 
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OCIVol said:
If UT hired Petrino, and he won big, nobody would care about his past transgressions. It's just how things work in the SEC.
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The winning would lessen the sting, no doubt, but it would still be very tough to root for someone like Petrino.

Kiffin was the perfect example. When he was hired, I loved the MONTE Kiffin hire but was skeptical about Lane & Ogre, albeit intrigued. When he started mouthing off at Meyer, at first it was funny, but then he just wouldn't shut up and eventually stuck his foot in his mouth. I liked the fire from our coach (it was a nice change of pace from Fulmer), but would often say, "he just needs to stick to coaching."

However, my wife will attest to the fact that, when we beat Georgia in '09, I had a minor man-crush but I still came home and said, now if he'd keep his damn mouth shut and his nose clean, I'd be 100% ok with him.

Petrino would be different, with a few exceptions. While Kiffin was coming off the Al Davis/Raiders controversy, many brushed it off as another crazy Al Davis rant...I mean everyone's seen this photo:

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However, Petrino comes in having been caught red-handed with another woman -AND- all but defrauding the university by hiring his piece-on-the-side as "on-campus recruiting coordinator."

Adultery is one thing that would be quickly forgotten but it's the multitude of ethical coaching sins he's committed that would be nearly impossible for me to stomach.

...the letter he wrote to his players with the Falcons is enough for me to say "GTFO."
 
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orangeblood79 said:
The winning would lessen the sting, no doubt, but it would still be very tough to root for someone like Petrino.

Kiffin was the perfect example. When he was hired, I loved the MONTE Kiffin hire but was skeptical about Lane & Ogre, albeit intrigued. When he started mouthing off at Meyer, at first it was funny, but then he just wouldn't shut up and eventually stuck his foot in his mouth. I liked the fire from our coach (it was a nice change of pace from Fulmer), but would often say, "he just needs to stick to coaching."

However, my wife will attest to the fact that, when we beat Georgia in '09, I had a minor man-crush but I still came home and said, now if he'd keep his damn mouth shut and his nose clean, I'd be 100% ok with him.

Petrino would be different, with a few exceptions. While Kiffin was coming off the Al Davis/Raiders controversy, many brushed it off as another crazy Al Davis rant...I mean everyone's seen this photo:

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However, Petrino comes in having been caught red-handed with another woman -AND- all but defrauding the university by hiring his piece-on-the-side as "on-campus recruiting coordinator."

Adultery is one thing that would be quickly forgotten but it's the multitude of ethical coaching sins he's committed that would be nearly impossible for me to stomach.

...the letter he wrote to his players with the Falcons is enough for me to say "GTFO."
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The way he left the Falcons is exactly why I wouldn't want him here. He's proven he's not exactly a class act, other-woman, but the letter to his team was disgusting. Even Lane Kiffin told his players in person.
 
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AllVol11717 said:
The way he left the Falcons is exactly why I wouldn't want him here. He's proven he's not exactly a class act, other-woman, but the letter to his team was disgusting. Even Lane Kiffin told his players in person.
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Agreed. I think some temporary good might come from hiring Petrino in terms of wins, but we might be setting ourselves up for more of a ****storm.
 
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gwgvol said:
Sorry, but you are wrong. Big Time.
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You can take that stance right now. But I would be willing to bet if Petrino came in and won an SEC championship within two years you would be buying a Harley shirt with him riding off into the sunset.

Winning cures all problems.
 
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head1 said:
You can take that stance right now. But I would be willing to bet if Petrino came in and won an SEC championship within two years you would be buying a Harley shirt with him riding off into the sunset.

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That's the problem with the Tennessee fan base, no coach can come in and win the SEC in 2 years(Cam doesn't count) it takes 4-5 at the very least. The Vols should be farther along than dropped passes, botched xp's, and not catching KO's. Another change won't do anything, but drive TN farther into the ground.
 
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AbarVolfan15 said:
That's the problem with the Tennessee fan base, no coach can come in and win the SEC in 2 years(Cam doesn't count) it takes 4-5 at the very least. The Vols should be farther along than dropped passes, botched xp's, and not catching KO's. Another change won't do anything, but drive TN farther into the ground.
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Meyer and Saban did it.
 
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head1 said:
You can take that stance right now. But I would be willing to bet if Petrino came in and won an SEC championship within two years you would be buying a Harley shirt with him riding off into the sunset.

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Its awfully presumptuous for you pretend to know the convictions of an entire fanbase. I would personally hate it if CBP became our head coach. There are too many other good head coaching candidates out there to mull around with scum like him. Not to mention he likely bolts for the first job he sees as a better pedestal to more money. His handling of the Falcons departure is as big an embarrassment as what he did at Arkansas.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Its awfully presumptuous for you pretend to know the convictions of an entire fanbase. I would personally hate it if CBP became our head coach. There are too many other good head coaching candidates out there to mull around with scum like him. Not to mention he likely bolts for the first job he sees as a better pedestal to more money. His handling of the Falcons departure is as big an embarrassment as what he did at Arkansas.
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Petrino would have stayed at Arkansas. His buyout was something like $10M to $15M during the first five years of his new extension.
 
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head1 said:
You can take that stance right now. But I would be willing to bet if Petrino came in and won an SEC championship within two years you would be buying a Harley shirt with him riding off into the sunset.

Winning cures all problems.
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If you really feel that way then I feel sorry for you.
 
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Crookruss said:
Meyer and Saban did it.
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I understood that to mean SEC. Not simply UT.
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I was talking about UT, but I used the Cam reference to deter posters from using other schools as examples like Florida or Alabama(the coaching experience is night and day different).
UT is different from most SEC schools, most schools can poach inside of their states boarders for talent, and Tennessee cannot. I would venture to say Urban would be in the same position as Dooley, and Saban would have the program in a better position, but far from an SEC title.
 
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AbarVolfan15 said:
I was talking about UT, but I used the Cam reference to deter posters from using other schools as examples like Florida or Alabama(the coaching experience is night and day different).
UT is different from most SEC schools, most schools can poach inside of their states boarders for talent, and Tennessee cannot. I would venture to say Urban would be in the same position as Dooley, and Saban would have the program in a better position, but far from an SEC title.
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UT may not have the in-state talent base that those schools have but has always recruited the surrounding states well. Most of that is due to those states not having a powerhouse instate school. North Carolina, Virginia, Kentucky and the Atlanta area and North Georgia had been a huge focus to supplement the lack of instate talent for years. We are not so different.
 
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Crookruss said:
UT may not have the in-state talent base that those schools have but has always recruited the surrounding states well. Most of that is due to those states not having a powerhouse instate school. North Carolina, Virginia, Kentucky and the Atlanta area and North Georgia had been a huge focus to supplement the lack of instate talent for years. We are not so different.
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In the last 5 years UT has taken 1 kid from KY, 1 a year from the Carolinas, J.Hunter is the only 1 from VA. Tennessee has better talent than most give it credit for, but every year other SEC powers come in and land top guys. On average there are about 5 four-star recruits and UT will sign 1 or 2 of those guys. That number has got to change.
 
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hey sc tiger what do you think it will take for auburn to fire chizik a lose to vandy? or are they waiting till the end of the season.
 
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AbarVolfan15 said:
In the last 5 years UT has taken 1 kid from KY, 1 a year from the Carolinas, J.Hunter is the only 1 from VA. Tennessee has better talent than most give it credit for, but every year other SEC powers come in and land top guys. On average there are about 5 four-star recruits and UT will sign 1 or 2 of those guys. That number has got to change.
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We signed 2 from South Carolina in 2011. 2 from SC in 10, one from KY & VA in 10, 2 from VA in 07.
 
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white65 said:
hey sc tiger what do you think it will take for auburn to fire chizik a lose to vandy? or are they waiting till the end of the season.
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Good question. I can't speak with certainty, but I think sooner (perhaps after Vandy) than later (after TAM). We aren't just losing, we're ****ting the bed nearly every time we take the field. We are a ship without a captain right now. We have no direction and the staff has LOST the team. You can't recover from that and "start again fresh next season" without putting people in control that command the attention and respect of the team. This means that Chizik cannot stay.

This isn't about manners anymore. It isn't about class or support. It's about putting a derailed train back on the track.
 
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